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Hey from my research I think we are in this moment.
Not scare mongering or anything like that. But the discovery of the first cities
are part of this and the indictment is originating from these places.
No crap
THE TERMINAL EVENTS
25:27 -- Then you shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts, the God of
Israel: Drink, be drunk and vomit, fall and rise no more, because of the sword
which I am sending among you.
25:28 -- And if they refuse to accept the cup from your hand to drink, then you
shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts: You must drink!
25:29 -- For behold, I begin to work evil at the city which is called by my
name, and shall you go unpunished? You shall not go unpunished, for I am
summoning a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth.
25:30 -- You, therefore, shall prophesy against them all these words, and say to
them: Yahweh will roar from on high, and from his holy habitation utter his
voice; he will roar mightily against his fold, and shout, like those who tread
grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.
Jer 25:31-38 -- The clamor will resound to the ends of the earth, for Yahweh has
an indictment against the nations; he is entering into judgment with all flesh,
and the wicked he will put to the sword.
Thus says Yahweh of hosts: Behold, evil is going forth from nation to nation,
and a great tempest is stirring from the farthest parts of the earth! And those
slain by Yahweh on that day shall extend from one end of the earth to the other.
They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall be dung on the
surface of the ground.
Wail, you shepherds, and cry, and roll in ashes, you lords of the flock, for the
days of your slaughter and dispersion have come, and you shall fall like choice
rams. No refuge will remain for the shepherds, nor escape for the lords of the
flock.
Hark, the cry of the shepherds, and the wail of the lords of the flock! For
Yahweh is despoiling their pasture, and the peaceful folds are devastated,
because of his fierce anger. Like a lion he has left his covert, for their land
has become a waste because of the sword of the oppressor, and because of his
fierce anger.
I think the second stage is translation and those left behind will really feel
it, in there souls and the fire within ones soul will be very evident. Everyone
will miss everyone and there will be much sorrow in this event.
Unfortunately, the last rebel may be given more rope, that means a change I
think for the worse. I think the world will make some false alliance in light of
the event but will be broken and may lead to war. But then thats the interesting
part, thats when a great return is predicted and the great judgment occurs.
Those who haven't reconciled themselves see ya later. That was the last train to
Paradise on earth and then great earth changes occur.
There could be variation but this what I feel at the moment.
good luck all!
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Ive been thinking about all those UFOs you see in
the skies I believe are they seraphic transports that can enter in and escape
out of this dimension into the Angelic realm of existence. I am absolutely sure
they here on mass for a purpose. perhaps even rapture in the first stage.
Thinking about these transports, they are made of a different material similar
to Paul's description of another greater substance. In the other realm there are
more elements that make up wider selection of materials. Thats why the metals
that have been recovered are not found in this dimension and are not recognized.
Rapture or translation is necessary for humans for space travel to an
architectural world in the other dimension reality. It is a world that is
prepared for the elect of this planet. Faith Sons of the Father, that can be
anyone who has faith no matter who. The Paradise invitation is open to all who
has faith. Simple faith, faith of a child that is teachable and spiritually
coherent and has desire through inspiration of truth, setting you free.
If this happens in this timing those left behind who never had faith are left
here to deal with everything thats pretty well bad on all accounts with every
nation.
Thats largely due to false sophistry sought after by man given by Caligastia the
last remaining rebel in the spiritual realm. Thats why he was left on the planet
solely to see his final outcome and so that man can see the rebel for himself
and know the truth, for his eyes only.
Some societies in past maybe connected to this and gained knowledge and used the
knowledge for self gain and we see the results like in the state of the planet
and rumors of war going around not to mention all the suicide terrorism.
But then everything comes good for the Father in the end, and everything returns
to him in truth.
All that is hidden is being revealed! said in the Book of Enoch.
Here is some research by a UB researcher about Seraphic transports and perhaps
may give more of an idea about the Seraphic transports we see or UFOs man sees
in the sky.
I do feel is real purpose in them showing themselves more often that not.
I believe they are transports for the elect destination, an architectural world
designed for us. For those who have simple faith of a child and is teachable
with a desire for the truth of everything in love for one another will live the
victory where we will not taste death, we are in the beginning of the end to a
new beginning, wiping the slate clean and beginning again. Right on!.
all the best
Sevens
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Is Massive Impending Doom For Humanity?Quote
8/27/2007 8:06 AM
When you go into your "other world" you loose touch with where you are NOW,
you are not living in the now...there is nothing new under the sun...nothing
that we do not already know in our heart...no big discoveries..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673
AHAHA these discoveries verify the very words in the new revelation for the new
epoch we are about to transition into. This is the sign post in the images. I
cant possibly see how your attitude would be successful in the standards that
have been layed down for the success of mankind rather than the dismal viewpoint
of others.
Just think right here and now you could be passing up the greatest opportunity.
No faith no entry.
All this information has been tested thoroughly with 2 expeditions to 1stden and
verified the wall. Not to mention other sites scattered around the area. The
Persian Gulf places come from the same source. I wouldn't want anyones words to
come back to reflect up them in failure in an actual event. Like wise this could
fails to, to be fair and there is a definite timeline verified in mystery in a
Hadith I cracked. Through the actual journey.
Re: Do You Believe There
Is Massive Impending Doom For Humanity?Quote
When you go into your "other world" you loose touch with where you are NOW,
you are not living in the now...there is nothing new under the sun...nothing
that we do not already know in our heart...no big discoveries..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673
AHAHA these discoveries verify the very words in the new revelation for the new
epoch we are about to transition into. This is the sign post in the images. I
cant possibly see how your attitude would be successful in the standards that
have been layed down for the success of mankind rather than the dismal viewpoint
of others.
Just think right here and now you could be passing up the greatest opportunity.
No faith no entry.
All this information has been tested thoroughly with 2 expeditions to 1stden and
verified the wall. Not to mention other sites scattered around the area. The
Persian Gulf places come from the same source. I wouldn't want anyones words to
come back to reflect up them in failure in an actual event. Like wise this could
fails to, to be fair and there is a definite timeline verified in mystery in a
Hadith I cracked. Through the actual journey.
Hey Seek
Interesting!
The way I see it is Seraph =
Seraphim. But doesn't matter. I suppose we have to see what relation Seraphim
has with Serpentine and if there is any reflection in the scripts.
Just gotta see what happens.
Im not sure whether they are lizards, if they exist at all I reckon there powers
are very curtailed at least from 2000 years ago.
Well least I hope that I'm not bacon and eggs.
Now that would be a thought! hehe
If there is a world conspiracy, I haven't seen it yet. I'm sure there is but I
reckon this thing seen by the prophets was way beyond anything negative.
It seems strange, I have written to concerning leaders for them to wake up and
talked about the places and Paradise with the intent. I even mentioned this
discovery would be a good opportunity for all nati0ons to find truth and stop
war. All kinds of things.
Never got a response from all sides. That was my attempt in world politics
ahahahaha! I never saw a conspiracy like you read. No one just response everyone
must be asleep or they delete allot.
sevens
Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:11 am
Here is information about a sister planet that
has ran the same course as we have with respect to defaults and planetary
rebellion. There is one continent that has really progressed according to
the author. I thought the description of this neighboring planet was quite
interesting.
By permission of Lanaforge and with the approval of the Most Highs of
Edentia, I am authorized to narrate something of the social, moral, and
political life of the most advanced human race living on a not
far-distant planet belonging to the Satania system.
Of all the Satania worlds which became isolated because of participation
in the Lucifer rebellion, this planet has experienced a history most like
that of Urantia. The similarity of the two spheres undoubtedly
explains why permission to make this extraordinary presentation was
granted, for it is most unusual for the system rulers to
consent to the narration on one planet of the affairs of another.
This planet, like Urantia, was led astray by the disloyalty of its
Planetary Prince in connection with the Lucifer rebellion. It received a
Material Son shortly after Adam came to Urantia, and this Son also
defaulted, leaving the sphere isolated, since a Magisterial Son has never
been bestowed upon its mortal races.
---------------------------------------------
and here is the last piece of this paper.
There could be some hints and clues for the future. It could be that the
knowledge about this planet or system could be adopted here in some aspects
after judgment. It seems more advanced than our society perhaps we could
learn some things.
Quote:
12. THE OTHER NATIONS
Although the society and government of this unique people are in many
respects superior to those of the Urantia nations, it should be stated
that on the other continents (there are eleven on this planet) the
governments are decidedly inferior to the more advanced nations of
Urantia.
Just now this superior government is planning to establish ambassadorial
relations with the inferior peoples, and for the first time a great
religious leader has arisen who advocates the sending of missionaries to
these surrounding nations. We fear they are about to make the mistake that
so many others have made when they have endeavored to force a superior
culture and religion upon other races. What a wonderful thing could
be done on this world if this continental nation of advanced culture would
only go out and bring to itself the best of the neighboring peoples and
then, after educating them, send them back as emissaries of culture
to their benighted brethren! Of course, if a
Magisterial Son should soon come to this
advanced nation, great things could quickly
happen on this world.
This recital of the affairs of a neighboring planet is made by special
permission with the intent of
advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia. Much more could be
narrated that would no doubt interest and intrigue Urantians, but this
disclosure covers the limits of our permissive mandate.
Urantians should, however, take note that their sister sphere in the
Satania family has benefited by neither magisterial nor bestowal missions
of the Paradise Sons. Neither are the various peoples of Urantia set
off from each other by such disparity of culture as separates the
continental nation from its planetary fellows.
The pouring out of the Spirit of Truth provides the spiritual
foundation for the realization of great achievements in the
interests of the human race of the bestowal world.
Urantiais therefore far better prepared for the more
immediate realization of a planetary government with its laws,
mechanisms, symbols, conventions, and language--all of which could
contribute so mightily to the establishment of world-wide peace under law
and could lead to the sometime dawning of a
real age of spiritual striving; and such an age is the planetary
threshold to the utopian ages of
light and
life.
[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]
Im thinking, maybe the Utopian ages of light and life is a
thousand years for this planet. However, I feel for this to happen in the
future 1000 years some change and adjudication to the rebellion has to occur
now.
It could all be a hint for the future and note when Jesus comes back to this
planet similar things will happen on those planets to. It will be a
universal event perhaps simultaneously.
Its interesting that there appears to be a blueprint of societal changes in
the future. Apparently a one family is allotted 5 hectares of land. It seems
like there are no cities as we know them. Apparently its the responsibility
of the family to teach there children religion in the home, apparently there
are no churches as we have here. It appears to be individual religion on
personal basis where there appears to be one truth. Where the family is the
basis of civilization and where it civilization is fermented in the family.
I wonder how something like that would work on this planet? Mind you if no
faith exists on this planet and judgment happens as prophesied it may be
devastating with earth changes happening at the same time. Maybe the elect
and faithful might be very few like 700 million working on Isaiah's 10% that
will survive. Perhaps a similar system to this but in our own
characteristics may be a worthwhile option of government for the future.
I don't know, Ahh just some ideas! In some cases a society like this would
be hard to get used to knowing what life is like here.
All the best everyone!
If we know about this planet then we have a
link to them as promoted by the Ancient of Days. Maybe one day we may speak
to these people and say Hello! and drop by. It may be all possible after
Judgment when the quarantine is lifted.
and remember this recital is here for a purpose from the Ancient of Days
with definite intent.....how does it deliver??
by special permission with the intent
of advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia.
sevens
Quote:
Page 2084: In winning souls for the Master, it is not the first mile of
compulsion, duty, or convention that will transform man and his world, but
rather the second mile of free service and liberty-loving devotion that
betokens the Jesusonian reaching forth to grasp his brother in love and sweep
him on under spiritual guidance toward the higher and divine goal of mortal
existence. Christianity even now willingly goes the first mile, but
mankind languishes and stumbles along in moral darkness
because there are so few genuine
second-milers—so
few professed followers of Jesus who really live and
love as he taught his disciples to live and love
and serve
Hi Seek,
Thank you for your wonderful words there, I really felt touched and blessed,
thanks
As for your other posts WOW! I have to real read them carefully. Look I can say
from a simple mans point of view Im sure this journey is not a ruse.
Lucifer and Satan is bound and the last rebel remains and will adjudicated as in
the books of religion like in bible and all the other books.
All I look for is reflections, connections in my mind and parallels across all
the books. Thats all I do and I express my views.
I have studied doctrine and these things as comprehensively as your self. I
think your very intelligent things. My journey in this path the first places was
very simple. I just focussed on Eden in metaphor and in literal in the all the
books.
The truth will come out ultimately ruse or no ruse!
It has to come out everything whether mankind likes it or not. All I know that
this journey started from simple beginning and now is it huge where the planet
could virtually rest on it. Maybe!
True in one thousand years we will enter in to new heaven and earth stage but in
order for man to spiritually strive for that planetary event the adjudication of
the rebellion I think has to be now .
One thing for sure the Most Highs do not need the counseling of man.
What will happen, will happen and that will be the testimony and we have a path
to the future.
Here is a recent post.
Here is information about a sister planet that has ran the same course as we
have with respect to defaults and planetary rebellion. There is one continent
that has really progressed according to the author. I thought the description of
this neighboring planet was quite interesting.
By permission of Lanaforge and with the approval of the Most Highs of Edentia,
I am authorized to narrate something of the social, moral, and political life
of the most advanced human race living on a not far-distant planet
belonging to the Satania system.
Of all the Satania worlds which became isolated because of participation in
the Lucifer rebellion, this planet has experienced a history most like that of
Urantia. The similarity of the two spheres undoubtedly explains why
permission to make this extraordinary presentation was granted, for it is
most unusual for the system rulers to consent to the narration on one
planet of the affairs of another.
This planet, like Urantia, was led astray by the disloyalty of its Planetary
Prince in connection with the Lucifer rebellion. It received a Material Son
shortly after Adam came to Urantia, and this Son also defaulted, leaving the
sphere isolated, since a Magisterial Son has never been bestowed upon its
mortal races.
---------------------------------------------
and here is the last piece of this paper.
There could be some hints and clues for the future. It could be that the
knowledge about this planet or system could be adopted here in some aspects
after judgment. It seems more advanced than our society perhaps we could learn
some things.
quote:
12. THE OTHER NATIONS
Although the society and government of this unique people are in many respects
superior to those of the Urantia nations, it should be stated that on the
other continents (there are eleven on this planet) the governments are
decidedly inferior to the more advanced nations of Urantia.
Just now this superior government is planning to establish ambassadorial
relations with the inferior peoples, and for the first time a great religious
leader has arisen who advocates the sending of missionaries to these
surrounding nations. We fear they are about to make the mistake that so many
others have made when they have endeavored to force a superior culture and
religion upon
Page 820 other races. What a wonderful thing could be done on this world if
this continental nation of advanced culture would only go out and bring to
itself the best of the neighboring peoples and then, after educating them,
send them back as emissaries of culture to their benighted brethren! Of
course, if a Magisterial Son should soon come to this advanced nation,
great things could quickly happen on this world.
This recital of the affairs of a neighboring planet is made by special
permission with the intent of advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia. Much more could be narrated that would
no doubt interest and intrigue Urantians, but this disclosure covers the
limits of our permissive mandate.
Urantians should, however, take note that their sister sphere in the Satania
family has benefited by neither magisterial nor bestowal missions of the
Paradise Sons. Neither are the various peoples of Urantia set off from each
other by such disparity of culture as separates the continental nation from
its planetary fellows.
The pouring out of the Spirit of Truth provides the spiritual foundation
for the realization of great achievements in the interests of the human
race of the bestowal world. Urantia is therefore far better prepared
for the more immediate realization of a planetary government with its laws,
mechanisms, symbols, conventions, and language--all of which could contribute
so mightily to the establishment of world-wide peace under law and could lead
to the sometime dawning of a real age of spiritual striving; and such an age
is the planetary threshold to the utopian ages of light and life.
[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]
Im thinking, maybe the Utopian ages
of light and life is a thousand years for this planet. However, I feel for
this to happen in the future 1000 years some change and adjudication to the
rebellion has to occur now.
It could all a hint for the future and note when Jesus comes back to this planet
similar things will happen on those planets to. It will be a universal event
perhaps simultaneously.
Its interesting that there appears to be a blueprint of societal changes in the
future. Apparently each family is allotted 5 hectares of land. It seems like
there are no cities as we know them. Apparently its the responsibility of the
family to teach there children religion in the home, apparently there are no
churches as we have here. It appears to be individual religion on personal basis
where there appears to be one truth. Where the family is the basis of
civilization and where its civilization is fermented in the family. Gee I wonder
if they get together for even a sing a long!
I wonder how something like that would work on this planet? Mind you if no faith
exists on this planet and judgment happens as prophesied it may be devastating
with earth changes happening at the same time. Maybe the elect and faith full
might be very few like 700 million working on Isaiahs 10% that will survive.
Perhaps a similar system to this but in our own characteristics may be a
worthwhile option of government for the future and society with a difference.
I dont know, Ahh just some ideas! In some cases a society like this would be
hard to get used to knowing what life is like here.
All the best everyone!
If we know about this planet then we have a link to them as promoted by the
Ancient of Days. Maybe one day we may speak to these people and say Hello! and
drop by. It may be all possible after Judgment when the quarantine is lifted.
and remember this recital is here for a purpose from the Ancient of Days with
definate intent.....how does it deliver??
quote:
by special permission with the
intent of advancing civilization and augmenting governmental evolution on
Urantia.
remember the intent for progressing
civilization here.
and here is another
quote:
more immediate realization of a
planetary government
and here is another clue
quote:
if a Magisterial Son should soon
come to this advanced nation, great things could quickly happen on
this world.
and
quote:
The pouring out of the Spirit of
Truth provides the spiritual foundation for the realization of great
achievements in the interests of the human race of the bestowal world.
To be honest the society as described
would be hard to get used to in somes degrees. Our society seems rather
different and geared differently. There appears to be a real emphasis on family
from what I can see. It seems agrarian in many aspects. I wonder if the country
runs on free energy?
and lastly
quote:
This nation is making a
determined effort to replace the self-respect-destroying type of charity by
dignified government-insurance guarantees of security in old age. This nation
provides every child an education and every man a job; therefore can it
successfully carry out such an insurance scheme for the protection of the
infirm and aged.
sevens
sevens
Hi Seek
Here is table of contents of the Urantia Papers.
Have a good go at it.
I am absolutely sure you will receive good benefit from it.
Have a look at Dalamatia City in the search and go to the images of Dalamatia.
Read and see the connections on all levels. Its a revelation for oncoming epoch.
Here is another link. I tell I can relate to his research and the experience
in this journey to the ancient places. As far as I'm concerned with rapture
and all those it is a short term period and then it happens. The this role is
over!
I find it incredible find these links now so far into the journey near a
completion in my view.
and this
quote:
Isaiah 48:
And all shall be gathered, and shall hear: who has told them these
things? Out of love to Thee I have fulfilled Thy desire on Babylon, to
abolish the seed of the Chaldeans. 15 I have spoken, I have called, I have
brought him, and made his way prosperous. 16 Draw nigh to Me, and hear ye
these words; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: when it
took place, there was I, and now the Lord, even the Lord, and his Spirit,
hath sent me.
this whole journey confirms many things for me in this journey to the first
places that I feel are in The Fathers purpose.
all the best
Sevens
Hi
I just like to say that I find these posts very interesting and I am learning
alot. I'm personally very happy with the progression of this almighty study
especially reading Ernest Moyer's research.
There is so many things that this man has touched on and has deeply investigated
and brought forth truth (in my mind) which completely confirms this journey, the
whole journey and in completion on the personal experience of being led in the
journey to the first places.
In my truth of experience in this journey the universe including everything and
everyone in the angelic realm functions on the basis of faith, trust, loyalty in
truth, beauty and goodness with love for one another.
That's it, how simple is that. Man and angels who attuned to that level of
relationship work together as a team to glorify the father in truth in
demonstration of his love as he blesses man greatly in his own journey of faith
in him.
I find this level just simply out weighs any fear thoughts of the conspiratorial
NWO.
I am so focused in this journey that the only NWO that is see is the "Kingdom of
Heaven" on earth the Jesus World.
Regarding time, in this journey I must say its been linear form in the
discoveries but in saying that it has been in the future which tapes into the
eternal realm in the timeline, there is no time there.
I feel paradise demonstrates in the timeline in my experience in the beforehand
when action is taken in faith that no one would ever do, like a 40 day test
declared and is seen further in the timeline reflected in the books, extension
and all. Its is heard in Heaven!
Then in some cases you see parts of the whole all layout in the future and you
know what they are all about from within. Or you may see a chapter where you
have experienced it like the mystery of Solomon and its connection to the
journey with background.
Then you see commonalities of parts spread out in the books and combine them
altogether you have a whole reflection. But the archeology division of the
journey and the harmonization of what is described and what you can see is a
very major part of it.
That is really exciting. That tops the lot and the messages that I feel emanates
from them and where it leads you in the study is such a blessing.
Now I just think a major part of the bible was written for the weakest link in
this end time solution. There was so much effort put into the last link that
many things reflect support Like "be not dismayed" "I will not tarry" and a
whole raft of things. They all knew that the last link would come from the
absolute ashes from a very weak place. But that flicker of faith from the
darkest part from within was the guiding light of the Father, that weak link
hung for sheer life to survive his own tribulation and testing period only to
become a victor within himself in his own journey and in connection to a very
big mystery of the planet related to the treasure houses. Glory be to the Father
in heaven. That man became the victor of himself in truth, beauty and goodness.
Man the Victor with truth, enamouring him, raising him to be the victor of
himself from dust to real righteousness in the light of truth.
That's what I think the Father intends for us, to be very progressive and seek
truth through our minds and good actions. I believe with the truth that flooding
in from the Father that we are the highest level of our evolution and I think
ready to leap forward in faith.
We all have different ideas but I think the truth will stand out. I feel the
Father is becoming stronger in this and momentum is building to what ever the
outcome is in our speculation.
All I know Ive been very truthful in this search, I haven't changed any scripts
Ive said it as it comes on the journey of discovery, totally honest.
See what happens but its all is in the Fathers hands of "the Kingdom of Heaven"
right on! yea! yes!
Sevens
I was think what about positive energy.
Would that work in the same way.
I feel that in the world there will be new technologies available but only given
to those who have been tried and tested as loyal embracing faith.
I'm not sure whether Nuclear is desirable nor sustainable considering the waste
and the potential for negative use.
I feel there are other positive sources of energy feel harnessed and given at
very little cost of at all. Except for the cost of an appliance.
Perhaps the technologies that were discovered by Tesla then perhaps were not
ready for use and expansion with the current form of human rulership. I'm not
sure! worth a thought
Hi I feel an event will happen to wake man up
like rapture, the world then goes through a testing period.
A judgment occurs, then the elect and the remnant join up and carry on for a
thousand years in preparation for the era of light and life which are the
utopian ages. like in the bible.
It will take a thousand years before man is ready for that however, in order for
him to be ready for that he has deal with the past right now in this day and
season.
The difference is that in the next 1000 years after judgment and before light
and life, there will be no Nodites!
I reckon that part where the last rebel is less constrained is at the post
rapture and pre judgment era before the thousand years. At the thousand years a
temple will be built in space that will descend to earth and that would
inaugurate the era of light and life.
The thousand years will be a period of very positive spiritual striving.
However, the trial period (post rapture pre judgment) Some say will last for 7
years others say 70 years for this period. I'm not sure. I also think all the
prophecies in the books is about this crucial stage we are about to enter as my
research tells me.
I think what we are proposing is all very similar apart from a few variations
which I don't think is that much.
I truly think we are in the pre rapture or translation before everything breaks
loose.
If we are to celebrate the Utopian ages of Light
and Life, we have to find resolve in the great judgment right NOW!!. Its going
to take 1000 years and a new society to reach that point. Also consider we do
have the Holy Spirit which gives us a great advantage.
Sevens
Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:15 pm
The following seems to have this hint of rapture
or translation about it.
This come from the 1stBook of Adam and Eve before Jesus. I think around 300BC.
Quote:
extract
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam,
"Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from
you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My
covenant; when I will save youandbring you
back again into the garden, intothe house of light you long for , in which
there is no darkness*. I will
bring you to it --
inthe kingdom of
heaven."
To me you could interpret that as literal reference to rapture!
and another similar reference
Quote:
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a
bitter cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and
look at it a second time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I
have made you a promise; when that promise is fulfilled,I will bring you back into the garden, you and
your righteous descendants." 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam.
Sevens
posted
09-01-2007 09:23 PM
Hi Brig
Here are some that I found that supports translation Rapture. I found them
then.
quote:
Quote:
John 14:2) In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
quote:
(John 14:3) And if I go and
prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself;
that where I am, there ye may be also.
quote:
Quote:
(Rev 22:12) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to
give every man according as his work shall be.
(Rev 22:13) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first
and the last.
(Rev 22:14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have
right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
and here some more references from a
recent post
The following seems to have this hint of rapture or translation about it.
This come from the 1stBook of Adam and Eve before Jesus. I think around 300BC.
quote:
Quote:
extract
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this darkness will
pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfilment of
My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the
garden, into the house of light you long for , in which there is no
darkness*.
I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of heaven."
To me you could interpret that as
literal reference to rapture!
and another similar reference
quote:
Quote:
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a bitter
cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and look at
it a second time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I have made you a promise; when
that promise is fulfilled, I will bring you back into the garden, you and
your righteous descendants. " 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam.
I they the above verses all supports
translation/rapture for the elect.
I found this Gem in Ezra, I'm not sure
of the chapter, I found it in my research. To me it describes everything about
this journey. to a tee.
quote:
[22] If then I have found favor
before thee, send the Holy Spirit into me, and I will write everything that
has happened in the world from the beginning, the things which were written in
thy law, that men may be able to find the path, and that those who wish to
live in the last days may live."
Well thats is exactly the case in this
journey, for sure 100%. This is a definite thread or path to investigate. I
reckon!
Its quite astonishing how its reflects everything in the journey. It amazing
rediscovering something from the past that fulfills everything that has
happened.
Again just linking up the site and connecting things I found this related to a
Hadith.
I really describes the result of the test
quote:
"The Hour will not come until the
following events have come to pass: people will compete with one another in constructing high buildings; two
earthquakes will
increase; time will pass quickly; afflictions and killing will increase;
nearly
thirty dajjals will appear, each of them claiming to be a messenger from
Allaah; a man will pass by a grave and say , 'Would that I were in your
place'; the sun will rise from the West; when it rises and the people see
it, but that will be the time when 'No good will it do to aperson to believe
then, if it believed not before..[al-An'aam
(6):158] link
There seems to be a real message in
that message. I would take head to faith in the beforehand because afterwards
its useless.
And on the Day of Resurrection,
he ['Eesaa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them." [an-Nisaa'
(4):157-9]
We think that the Tafseer (interpretation) of this Aayah is that the pronoun
in "before his death" (qabla mawtihi) refers to Jesus; i.e, he will descend
and the People of the Book who differed concerning him will believe in him.
The Christians claimed that he was divine, while the Jews made a slanderous
accusation, i.e. that he was born from adultery. When Jesus descends before
the Day of Judgment, he will correct all these differences and lies.
The above seems a little harsh, aggressive and
racial but It does note that there is, in this end time
scenario a book involved that speaks of Jesus which people disagree with. It
seems that Jesus actually comes back to confirm the book and truth, would that
be the Urantia Book??
And the Lord answered me and said.
Write the vision. and that plainly on a tablet,
and that he that reads it may run . For
the vision is yet for a set time, and
it shall shoot forth at the end, and
not in
vain:
though he should tarry wait him; for
he shall surely come, will not tarry.
and here is something about the mystery and the prophets in the new
testament
Here is a classic. I think this points to the ancient locations.
Quote:
Romans 16:25 (Read all of Romans 16)
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel,
and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the
revelation of the mystery, which
was kept secret sincethe world began
26 But now is made manifest, and by the
scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting
God,made known to all nations for the
obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.,
Colossians 1:26
Quote: Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations,
but now is made manifest to his saints:
Sevens
The above seems a little harsh and
racial but I does note that there is, in this end time scenario a book
involved that speaks of Jesus which people disagree with. It seems that Jesus
actually comes back to confirm the book and truth, would that be the Urantia
Book??
This journey could be the testament.
Quote:
Hab 2:1
And the Lord answered me and said.
Write the vision. and that plainly on a tablet,
and that he that reads it may run . For
the vision is yet for a set time, and
it shall shoot forth at the end, and
not in vain:
though he should tarry wait him;
for he shall surely come, will not tarry.
4Q215 "...and the stressful constraint and the
ordeal of the pit (the trap of no faith) and they shall be refined by them
to become the elect of the righteousness....
because of his loving kindness.
and
Enoch 80
9During one year we shall leave you with your children, until you shalt
again recover your strength, that you may instruct your family, write these
things, and explain them to all your children.
(Written beforehand, Found in the scripts and revealed before the time. There
is a definite period of probation.)
But in another year they shall take you from the midst of them ,
and your heart shall be strengthened; for the elect shall point out
righteousness to the elect; the righteous with the righteous shall rejoice,
congratulating each other;
(Yes before the actual event of rapture the Elect who share the message of the
test that lasts for a year ..Truth, Beauty and Goodness shall be taken. That
includes all man who has love in his heart and humbles himself I believe will
be taken, translated raptured.)
and
088.001 YUSUFALI: Has the story reached thee of the overwhelming (Event)?
and lastly
18 And [their] bows will dash even young men to pieces. And the fruitage of
the belly they will not pity; for sons their eye will not feel sorry.
Mind you this was written long time back however it does seem very extreme,
very difficult times.
19 And Babylon, the decoration of kingdoms, the beauty of the pride of the
Chaldeans, must become as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall
arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected
from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them
shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation,
This could mean
in the Seventh week of the new Millennium of Jesus' birthdate
August 21st 07 BC
The Seventh
week is 1st - 8th October, the Seventh week in the new
millennium.
posted
09-02-2007 04:26 PM
Believe in what!?
Weellll
I think it all has to do with the 40 day test that I declared on the 4th July 06
where soon after the 2 nodite cities was discovered 6 days after the season. In
this season I discovered the real Dalamatia City 6 days before.
Discovering the city at the end of the process. That's 3 submerged cities all
related to each other.
For me that was proof enough in confirmation of what was declared and I feel
that declaration was heard and I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus responds to this
because of all the faithfulness that has been involved.
What's even more confirming is that everyone that I used to speak to regularly
has abandoned this proposal. I'm all alone in this venture and that is the main
reason its only me and heaven that believe in this and the messages behind this.
All mankind has dumped this mission and has been skeptical, everyone. No one has
been faithful to the ultimate call. The Kingdom of Heaven has been absolutely
faithful in the by the guidance in the journey and the discoveries along the
way.
Man has virtually thumbed his nose at God. Judging his response.
That is exactly why the heaven as joined forces with this underdog mission for
mankind. To at least show there faithfulness to the task at hand.
Paradise will come from behind and when it does it will be too late to turn back
or have second thoughts.
Before I am castigated for saying this I want everyone to keep in the back of
there mind this knowledge of this test and live rightly if you can. Even be
halfhearted. I believe this month is the a very important month and many things
come to a finish and I feel the conditions are right!
How do you know that I am wrong???
I just feel this journey has all the Paradise Trinity aspects. In the oncoming I
see the Father justice component coming to pass with the intention of really
snapping man into to line he will be stern particularly what we have don't to
his planet. However the journey to the places, the whole journey including
1stEden is part of the Mother and Son venture, (Holy Spirit and Jesus) the
loving side to show the paths, declare all, the mercy side of the trinity.
It really about soul saving now! that's all that's left, the get the harvest in!
The beginning of the harvest and the feast/marriage date we have ready for us.
Seven
posted
09-03-2007 02:07 AM
Is the rapture and judgement
all about the sorting of the Adamic gene and Nodite gene through a simple test
of faith.
Behind what!?
Behind you! BOO ahahah
Things seem to be cyclical but in this journey I think that cycle will finish.
That matrix will be dealt with by the authors of cycle.
> What does that mean? Turn back to where? Second thoughts about what!?
Have you read all the previous threads and links??
There is test that in the process, its a test of faith, it was declared by
myself on the 4th July 06. Its a test of faith of the elect in preparation for
rapture from what my research tells me, its for the new world, the elect will
form the new administration of this planet as mentioned in the bible. Trust and
Faith is the key
Its from this test of faith, like in the 40 day test is from where this
selection occurs because it has been confirmed by the new book along with the
discoveries of the ancient places for our new society.
Its through faith that where the Adamic genes lay, the opposite to that reaction
of faith, like skeptism, doubt, anger and hatred is the Nodite gene we all have that
too, in some people it rules forever.
The father is sorting out mankind through this simple test where the Adamic
strain will arise and show itself whilst the Nodite gene will be sorted and
ultimately will not survive! I feel the seed of the fallen Sons of God will be
eradicated from this planet.
This sorting out and parting of the ways has nothing to with borders of races,
its not racial, its all to do with gene response on the faith level through a
simple test of faith. The Adamic gene allows the holy spirit and the personality
to harmonise better thereby producing better fruits of action which are more
noble and has more connectivity with the Father. This Adamic gene was very
important to mankind when Adam and Eve arrived they where meant to upstep our
societies of mankind with there progeny allowing the Adamic gene to admix. But
the plan failed and as a result you very mixed Adamic genes in all races in low
doses and varying levels.
This is an actual concern to the universal fathers that this gene has been
diluted and this is there solution as we read in the bible and other books.
This test of faith activates certain faith responses as you can read and see the
journey and the places. In addition, you have the genes of the fallen sons of
Gods the Nodites. The are the I suppose the opposite gene.
Its really all to do with a being suitable candidates who will be entrusted with
much. The trust and faith that you live the more you will be given in trust and
faith, like the treasure houses of the planet.
In the future world there will be new technologies that require trust, faith
with responsibility in leadership.
Anyway that's what I reckon and I'm standing by it.
check out the Urantia Book and look at the evidence on multiple levels.
Those that survive will have large families.
If rapture occurs and the journey and thoughts are right. I feel in the post
rapture period the hidden Adamic gene will arise within many people and when
judgment occurs I think there will be many people that will survive. But the
Nodite at that time will not survive that includes people.
No one can fool the Father as a he searches the heart and motivation.
But then again he is only asking for simple faith and a teachable spirit.
Also in the time of post rapture, the Nodite gene where ever it exist and
whoever choose the Nodite/Gene way will close ranks!! Because it will mean sheer
survival of the Nodite gene.
Everything seems normal now but when things happens I believe things will change
on this planet. Maybe as prophecied which I can understand as that will be a
reaction of man for survival.
This is viable possibility and if Jesus is involved in this which I believe he
will confirm this journey against all odds!
One thing for sure this selection wont be a matter of races as we see them. I
also believe the Holy Spirit can transform people even with large percentage of
Nodite gene. Like in shutting down the Nodite gene responses allowing the Adamic
gene to take over, the evidence of this would be the change of the ways and
mindal transformation in truth where the actions display good fruit.
The Nodite is all related to fear and the use of fear as a tool of power for
self purpose considering no one, complete selfishness, sharing nothing. Whilst
the Adamic gene does the opposite.
I don't think its a matter of which church nor religion. Although religion
should help us to understand this and that should be its purpose but instead we
have mass confusion and all sorts doctrines being espoused. I think its all to
do with the soul, construct of man and his motivation in light of truth. Whether
he embraces or rejects within himself.
The Adamic Gene is positive, creative, open minded, discerning, teachable and
loves his fellow brother. The Holy Spirit assimilates with this aspect of our
gene construct which emanates in our thoughts and reaction. Overtime whilst
bathing in the light of truth and connection this Adamic part of our nature
arises more and more in complete faith and trust and awe of the attunement to
the mind of the Father.
The ultimate matrix of love which is the higher matrix.
sevens
posted
09-03-2007 04:09 PM
Just thinking about the above and
relating it to the mark of the beast in revelation.
The Mark of the Beast is more than likely this Nodite gene that all man
has to some degree.
I'm sure this mark of the beast is related to the genes and its influence and
activities in our thoughts and actions. Thinking on this level it would make
sense through a process is initiated by the universal fathers to eliminate this
corrupt gene strain. The Nodite strain has held man back from achieving his true
destiny because of the corrupt actions of the fallen Sons of God.
As we know in the bible it speaks of the beast and the false prophet thrown into
the lake. This action resembles personality extinction of the the Nodite gene
and the people who follow its import into the mind and manipulate it over
others.
The beast is the Nodite seed and the false prophet is those who represent the
false truth of the Nodite seed.
Remember, the journey to the ancient places is all about from where this Nodite
strain originated from. Its from the first places that this seed came from and
corrupted the destiny of mankind. I think this is one purpose of the journey to
go back to where it began where the Father has unfinished business. That is
exactly what has happened in the journey to the ancient places.
There is real purpose in this journey not to mention intent of Paradise.
Anyway faith is the key and everyone has a simple choice to make through a
demonstration related to "the treasure houses" and the "heritage of
the ages" .
Wisdom is the treasure!
It says in the Urantia Book that when we all pass through the 7th heaven of the
Mansion worlds in our eternal evolution we will make our final victory of the
mark of the beast at that time. So as you can see this process of the influence
of the fallen Sons of God in our genes will go on in heaven which is quite
understandable. Even though its not flesh and blood in heaven, it will be of a
spiritual nature in our future attitudes beyond this realm.
line 144: The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of
the immediate postmortal career. During your sojourn here you will receive
the instruction of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in the task of
preparing you for residence on Jerusem. Any discernible differences between
those mortals hailing from the isolated and retarded worlds and those
survivors from the more advanced and enlightened spheres are virtually
obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here you will
be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome
environment, and unspiritual planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the
"mark of the beast" are here eradicated
There only some thoughts I had on the run. To me it kind of makes sense. It
would be an interesting study to check out. I'm sure it goes very deep where it
has probably all to do with our structure and things that prevent us from
reaching our true potential. Perhaps the things deep within our genes that need
highlighting!
From my studies the genetic code was implanted by the life carriers in the way
of living cells which contained all the potential of evolution in the result we
today. Its definitely evolution but does have creative value. Our planet is a
decimal planet which means that our species of sentient being is different from
other type of human in the universe. Essentially we are an experiment of a new
type being in the construct of evolution and creation. Every 10th planet that
becomes inhabited is an experimental planet evolving a higher perhaps more
varied level of sentient being in gene structure.
The source of our genes comes from the universe implanted by the life carriers
who live in the other dimension who take care of things in nature and help to
evolve nature until a species becomes sentient. Self reflective ad self
conscious then there job is over.
Its worth checking out but how could I prove it??
Anyway my take on things at this time.
sevens
posted
09-05-2007 06:21 AM
hi
Here is a piece regarding the Mark of the Beast from the urantia book. I suppose
you could assume the mark of the best of spiritual as well as physical in this
time.
quote:
PAPER 47 - THE SEVEN MANSION
WORLDS
* line 144: The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of the
immediate postmortal career. During your
sojourn here you will receive the instruction of many teachers, all of whom
will co-operate in the task of preparing you for residence on Jerusem .
Any discernible differences between those mortals hailing from the isolated
and retarded worlds and those survivors from the more advanced and enlightened
spheres are virtually obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion
world . Here you will be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate
heredity, unwholesome environment , and unspiritual planetary
tendencies.
The last remnants of the "mark of the beast" are here eradicated.
* line 157: John the Revelator saw a vision of the arrival of a class
of advancing mortals from the seventh mansion world to their first
heaven, the glories of Jerusem. He recorded: "And I saw as it were a sea
of glass mingled with fire; and those who had gained the victory over the
beast that was originally in them and over the image that persisted
through the mansion worlds and finally over the last mark and trace,
standing on the sea of glass, having the harps of God, and singing the song of
deliverance from mortal fear and death." (Perfected space communication
is to be had on all these worlds; and your anywhere reception of such
communications is made possible by carrying the "harp of God," a
morontia contrivance compensating for the inability to directly adjust the
immature morontia sensory mechanism to the reception of space
communications.)
I feel any gene that is corrupted will
not enter the kingdom of heaven even though it effects are still felt in the
mansion world before we reach our first heaven.
Also note that many personalities that are affected by the Mark of the Beast,
like us do survive. I feel however the nodite gene response to the extreme will
be taken out of this world through a simple faith process.
I think the ancient submerged cities
in the journey is all to do in revealing the truth about this "Mark of the
Beast" and perhaps in the demise of it.
maybe! just going by faith in my thoughts in the path.
I believe that whole journey is a faith journey and what I discover in the books
and in the images which is the only physical thing that I rest my case on, in
the discoveries and parallels in this case.
There has been many times where I have done something or initiated something
only to find it in the books reflected in some way that I can relate to in the
future timeline. To me it has been of things anticipated and seen and hope for
in the beforehand but not yet seen in the timeline Only to discover it which
includes th journey to the thing of discovery. Like in the 40 day test as
reflected in the Hadith.
Or then you may be led into a great connecting discovery like in the case of
Jesus tomb and all the connecting symbolism that I have studied in the
beforehand. In the case of Jesus' tomb, if my faith hunches a right there could
be great discoveries from this which may even lead to a discovery on mars which
does have connection in symbolism to Jesus tomb, like the circle in the triangle
symbolism that I believe relates to Dalamatia, Babel/Dilmun, the Sumerian's and
the great pyramid all connected by symbolism. Not to mention the WWW symbol
which can be seen in the tomb, Mars, Dalamatia and Sumerian seal.
Does that point to internet WWW or what! Actually it points to the
triangles of Jerusem! The Capital of our system, the 1st Heaven.
In the case of Jesus' tomb, the researchers only reached a certain point, like a
dead end but then when I see a symbol that I have seen in this faith journey, I
can take the research further for man. There has been many cases like that.
All Im doing is adding to what man already knows but taking further. Its is a
total faith journey in that I am being led by the Father in the Kingdom of
Heaven through my thought adjuster and by the help if the Angels in
synchronicity in great personal discoveries.
All the discoveries have been discovered in perfect timing as you can see in the
timeline image.
So as I experience these beautiful treasure house or Heritage of Ages
discoveries and release them for mans benefit on the run, I feel really blessed
where my faith increases, the more faith increases the more I discover and am
led.
This to me feels like a faith process and seeing things manifest is so faith
building which is an on the spot journey for man to build his faith.
I think that is another purpose, its like with the 40 day test and the extension
of it, the more I discover and share in the timeline the more things manifest of
discovery in the timeline. So as I experience more connections, parallels and
discoveries my faith builds with more confidence in the journey and in the lord
to the point where I increase my vision for the ultimate interpretation of all
the scriptures including those outside the bible.
Its like a great crescendo of virtual reality coming to pass in the ultimate
truth of the scripts with the intent of Paradise.
Actually, where I am now is like waiting for the great actions of the lord to
occur. I feel that I want to improve the website and consolidate the connections
and parallels and write more stuff but other than that I am ready! I have taken
the research to its fullest extent apart from a expedition. Hopefully that may
occur but rapture may happen in the meantime. Thats Ok, thats great! I want see
what the our new temporary abode looks like.
I am really ready for this great event to occur I have full faith in the
beforehand of the things to happen in accordance to my journey in the books of
truth. Its what the scriptures and the journey tells me. I have faith in the
Kingdom of Heaven as I know the kingdom through my journey of faith,
proclamations and discoveries along the way which supports my initial hunches
and thoughts.
Because I have no fear in this work, quite the opposite I am free to explore and
discover these things of glorious beauty because there is no fear. There is no
Nodite influence here!
The closer I feel in my heart to the lord the more motivated I am, even being
one man band on the run where I have to work to keep this going and juggle
things. But that what makes this faith journey beautiful, against all odds of
this manifesting in Ultimacy. but there's that 1 percent that will come through
against all the odds like 3 billion to one. It will ring true and happen. from
the lowest level to highest levels. Its like the building of man.
Also I just cant conceive that we are so far down the track in the discoveries
and research that the Kingdom of Heaven will not fulfill there side of things. I
feel its a joint venture of heaven and myself or mankind if he wants to be
involved, in this partnership joint venture, striving together.
I see the truth and the info and I give it away and then heaven manifests the
reality in the beforehand to the present and projecting to the future, to the
next leg, in the faith process This process relates to my faith in the Father
and his faith in me. Faith in that Adamic section of my Gene structure, to arise
the nodite propensity that I also have within me, we all do!
I just feel Heaven wants someone to write for them and give the treasure houses
to man in love so man in love gives it to his fellow brother, in love for one
another. It has Jesus all through it!
So that's my definition of my faith process of the journey and mind you we can
help each other to build on this platform with research and discoveries. In
saying this I open my platform for others to participate in and to become
involved in this, let this be a journey for man in the complete sense where we
are all working together building on this to find and manifest truth!
Don't you find it interesting that Jesus tomb comes into the research at this
time, the time synchronicity. Very interesting with very deep messages in
symbolism that lead you to a definition, thats awe inspiring! and its into
intergalactic, pointing to mars and even to the Capital of our system. amazing!
Sumerian seal, the triangles and the WWW
and the WWW or MMM on Mars or the partial triangles in the same
formation near the Face of Mars.
Hey thanks Brig for the reference, I have to get
the book and see what I can find.
Soon after I found the inscriptions in the tomb of Jesus. I then started to
watch a video on Google which included some of those images, it was also in a
different language. As I watching it I noticed in an instant the same type
pattern on Mars in the image the same pattern in Jesus tomb.
I went back to the spot and copied the image. I'm sure there a better images
about. In the past I also noticed other triangular shapes on Mars. Very
interesting! The Sumerian seal I found about a week later and again the same
pattern.
truly fascinating how the same pattern seems to have definition and information
that we are testing today, to my mind.
all the best
sevens
posted
09-06-2007 04:00 AM
Hi wirelessguru1
quote:
OSI data communications model has
seven (7) layers
Hi wirelessguru1
quote:
OSI data communications model has seven (7) layers
Just fascinating, how intriguing about
the 7 layers.
Actually I like how you programmers and viruses in you analogy.
I think it just seems right to me.
We were programmed through creative evolution, then we are affected by a fallen
estate (virus) in the first instance, then in an attempt to rid virus we were
infused with the Adamic gene. But that failed to pull back the dominance of the
Nodite gene because of the 2nd default. The Nodite gene being imposition forced
will aspect of the gene.
So we have a programme which is faulty but still functional but not complete and
still held back by the virus we still have. Unfortunately, we never got to much
of the Adamic gene to bring us forward without fear.
However, in regards to the Adamic gene we have another programme sent to assist
it, called the Holy Spirit. Because we have this extra programme it enables us
to over come the fear ridden, selfish Nodite strain.
Well the Father is not satisfied with this as he wants to rewrite the whole
programme without any viruses or defects.
I believe this faith process is all related to this re programming in the
physical. First he wants to rid of the programmer who wrote that horrible virus
along with all the other crappy Nodite programmers on this planet who follow the
last rebel. (speaking in the spiritual off course) Not you wireless no way man,
I think you're a good programmer of good works and words along with your
interesting thoughts.
Also this morning after writing my first post, i was driving to work when It
occurred to me that this part of the journey is the first stage in the record.
The second stage will be a trip to an architectural world were this record will
be continued in the descriptions of this other world.
Then when we come back the 3rd stage I feel it will be judgment time and will be
a part of this record. After Judgment the 4th stage that will be final
completion in the new world forevermore.
Coming back we can do all the expeditions complete the record and then I think
it would be the greatest presentation ever to behold man!
Then it will be presented as a full story throughout history for mankind and
will be seen by countless generations in the new world. yes yes yes!
Well that just sounds perfect to me. I am READY! lets do it. When that thought
came to my mind, I thought YES that sounds and feels right and is
consistent to the journey to the ancient places.
And its mentioned in Nostradamus to.
What a gift that is and what a new level for this research and journey of man.
To be taken to a world designed for us temporarily where this record to the
ancient places will still continue but will be a complete description of the
experience.
So I am waiting for a seraphic transport to take me to next level to continue
this record. I'm sure Jesus would do that in this case.
Vans highland headquarters and where
the Adamson/Javan/Young civilization began. Note the diamond shapes area and the
3 co planar circles, the same on top of the Acropolis Hill in 1stEden of Cyprus.
Again another connection to Dalamatia, the diamonds!! The Diamond affect we have
in Dalamatia City.
and the 3 co planar rings on the Acropolis Hill
of 1st Eden Cyprus, The symbol of Van
And lastly the 3 co-planar circles of
Van, he came from Dalamatia he was loyal to the Father and was the custodian of
the tree of life before Adam and Eve arrived.
Man, what you saying here, I'm sorry but we see
things differently as I just read.
Remember this planet is quarantined from the rest of the universe. This NWO that
you see only exists in the mind of man on this planet.
I'm talking about the "Kingdom he Heaven" Not some NWO, what's that all about,
some medieval doctrine or something. I just don't understand your connections
man on what you wrote. This is no beast operation, come on! Satan is defeated
2000 years ago but obviously people still hold on to old things that have no
relevance or worth only what man gives to ideas that I don't see reflected in
the scripts.
With the Urantia Book its just a book that very direct and quite literal. NWO is
not spoken about i the UB, that is in your mind. Its a book from heaven and its
revealing itself in discovery. What wrong with that, there's no conspiracy
involved in this. I suppose to be positive and makes life interesting. Gee this
book and books are mentioned in revelation in a positive way, the way I see it.
All I see in what I saw was fear and superstition and nothing that I could
relate to.
On the Seventh thing I see it quite differently to how you view it. Its supposed
to be part of the mystery. I just feel into it without pre meditation its just
happened. So what if I use the Seventh number as a nick name quite innocently
chosen and then people make dispersions on it because of there fear. Come on Man
this is supposed to and enjoyable enlightening journey.
Oh well everyone see things in there own way but I'm not paranoid about anything
that's happening. Its seems the fear within you just reading your
interpretations. Funny part the book is written in the matter of fact not
written in major symbolism like you have in the olden books.
Personally how your interpreting the Ub in those inserts is really weird sorry
but I certainly don't understand what you saying because I see no other matching
evidence in the scriptures using the Bible or other books outside the bible to
find connection and it seems really on the negative side of what the book is
actually saying.
I wouldn't be fearful of this book. But we are testing it out and to me its led
to a solid path, its either truth or fiction. That's what this time period is
all about to test things. Your contribution is part of the test, to verify
things.
So it on the table.
no worries.
Hey Wirelessguru1.
If there is something like a discovery journey and its non violent and it
benefits mankind in truth through discovery. Whats wrong with that?
sevens
sevens
posted
09-06-2007 05:05 PM
Hey Wirelessguru1.
If there is something like a discovery journey and its non violent and it
benefits mankind in truth through discovery. Whats wrong with that?
Well I can testify as a witness to the journey that it has just wonderful and
there has been no fear or paranoid feelings. Its been really honest in pursuing
the truth of the matter.
Its thats simple. Gee I even wrote to the major nations in conflict and they
never even responded. I'm sure they deleted it straight and thought it was some
crack pot. Serious!
There not even interested. No one is interested in this journey judging by the
hopeless hits and the general non interest.
There is nothing going on here man! the only thing that may happen that may make
this journey valuable is, if rapture happens other than it could be fictional
story. Its all being tested in this evolution in time.
I really don't now what the outcome of this journey will be. It could be that
someone will verify and everyone says yea! and back to business as usual.
Its just a simple faith journey an off shoot of the the 1stEden journey taken to
the ultimate degree where one can go no further...... unless!
hahahahah You just never know!
There is no beast or seraphic evil being and all that negative non productive
thinking. The fruit in this journey is positive in discovery and in truth found
in the books including the Urantia Book and its just simple.
sevens
posted
09-06-2007 06:01 PM
Yeah but its just how you see it in
your mind.
Everyone has variation in what they see. The neutral core is your thoughts and
what you imposed in your inserts in the UB.
I would have to see more demonstration from independent sources such as scripts
about neutrality because I cant relate to any evidence, it seems like NWO
ideology and I'm not inspired to seek that path and its related ideas.
line 140: Even on normal
evolutionary worlds the realization of the world-wide brotherhood of man is
not an easy accomplishment.
On a confused and disordered planet like Urantia such an achievement requires
a much longer time and necessitates far greater effort.
Unaided social evolution can hardly achieve such happy results on a
spiritually isolated sphere. Religious revelation is essential to the
realization of brotherhood on Urantia.
While Jesus has shown the way to the immediate attainment of spiritual
brotherhood , the realization of social brotherhood on your world depends
much on the achievement of the following personal transformations and
planetary adjustments:
1. Social fraternity.
Multiplication of international and interracial social contacts and
fraternal associations through travel, commerce, and competitive play.
Development of a common language and the multiplication of multilinguists.
The racial and national interchange of students, teachers, industrialists,
and religious philosophers.
2. Intellectual cross-fertilization. Brotherhood is impossible on a
world whose inhabitants are so primitive that they fail to recognize the
folly of unmitigated selfishness. There must occur an exchange of national
and racial literature. Each race must become familiar with the thought of
all races; each nation must know the feelings of all nations. Ignorance
breeds suspicion, and suspicion is incompatible with the essential attitude
of sympathy and love.
3. Ethical awakening. Only ethical consciousness can unmask the
immorality of human intolerance and the sinfulness of fratricidal strife.
Only a moral conscience can condemn the evils of national envy and racial
jealousy. Only moral beings will ever seek for that spiritual insight which
is essential to living the golden rule.
Page 598 4. Political wisdom. Emotional maturity is essential to
self-control. Only emotional maturity will insure the substitution of
international techniques of civilized adjudication for the barbarous
arbitrament of war. Wise statesmen will sometime work for the welfare of
humanity even while they strive to promote the interest of their national or
racial groups. Selfish political sagacity is ultimately
suicidal--destructive of all those enduring qualities which insure planetary
group survival.
5. Spiritual insight. The brotherhood of man is, after all,
predicated on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The quickest way to
realize the brotherhood of man on Urantia is to effect the spiritual
transformation of present-day humanity. The only technique for accelerating
the natural trend of social evolution is that of applying spiritual pressure
from above, thus augmenting moral insight while enhancing the soul capacity
of every mortal to understand and love every other mortal. Mutual
understanding and fraternal love are transcendent civilizers and mighty
factors in the world-wide realization of the brotherhood of man.
If you could be transplanted from your backward and confused world to some
normal planet now in the postbestowal Son age, you would think you had been
translated to the heaven of your traditions. You would hardly believe that
you were observing the normal evolutionary workings of a mortal sphere of
human habitation. These worlds are in the spiritual circuits of their realm,
and they enjoy all the advantages of the universe broadcasts and the
reflectivity services of the superuniverse.
Update on the translation/rapture
thread, please fully above and below the evolution.
posted
09-06-2007 08:12 PM
Hey in the above piece
I just noticed this verse
quote:
If you could be transplanted from
your backward and confused world to some normal planet now in the postbestowal
Son age, you would think you had been translated to the heaven of your
traditions.
Did you see that part "translated
to the heaven of your traditions." I just noticed that. Notice translated to
the heaven of your traditions. The tie in of translation and tradition, like the
heritage of the ages. AAHHHH! probably reading to much into it and perhaps
misreading it but lets look into in reflection to our conversation.
Maybe that was major find and in context to our conversation about rapture and
translation.
We, on Urantia are in the post son bestowal age (post Jesus) currently and when
the Urantia Book speaks of translation to another world to witness a normal
society. In our conversation of Rapture/translation The elect could be
translated to another world where we could witness there normal society and
become involved in it and then come back to help out this planet after
judgement.
We the elect could be taught about things of government on another world and
maybe actually witness a society that functions normally and view the difference
and learn.
That planet could be that Sister planet as described in the UB and was mandated
by the Ancient of Days exactly for this purpose and thats why they allowed a
presentation of there of there society.
Also note on the other planet a great teacher is arising over there and maybe
could be foreseeing the arrival of visitors from another planet in there
prophecies??? Arrivals from this planet maybe??
We come there to participate and while we are there we fulfill there prophecies
and make connection, we come back and fulfill our prophecies and begin again
with full knowledge with a connection to a sister sphere.
Ever thought of that one.
Then the elect come back with all this newly acquired and recorded material for
the benefit of mankind.
Wireless I don't know what normal is anymore ahahahah.
So when the authors of this paper write this piece in the ONLY IF like thats my
prayer for this planet ....if you could a normal function.... only if..
Well maybe the Ancient of Days may respond to that and allow that to happen.
If you could be transplanted from your backward and confused world to some
normal planet now in the postbestowal Son age, you would think you had been
translated to the heaven of your traditions.
And note again the connection to traditions and the heaven as described in our
traditions??
"translated to the heaven of your traditions.
"
This subtle tie in of translation and tradition, makes me think are we on the
right track here. Is this a round a bout confirmation?? tantilising to think.
Sure the above lays out the plan as we are speaking in the beforehand.
and then in the next part it speak of the sencoind coming of Jesus, right in the
next part how amazing and yet making reference to Urantia being out of step.
quote:
7. POST-TEACHER SON MAN
The Sons of the next order to arrive on the average evolutionary world are the
Trinity Teacher Sons, the divine Sons of the Paradise Trinity. Again we
find Urantia out of step with its sister spheres in that your Jesus has
promised to return. That promise he will certainly fulfill, but no one
knows whether his second coming will precede or follow the appearances of
Magisterial or Teacher Sons on Urantia .
I found that interesting all linked
with translation and the heaven of aa our tradition like a world that is spoke
about in the scriptures that would like a heaven to us in the way its socirty
works,....only if we could see a normal planet function...like a prayer!..and
then in the next breach speak about in connection with the second coming of
Jesus or the magisterial teacher sons...they don't know who coming first...like
making there mind up..just having fun.
But what I see is exactly what I have speaking about the elect will get
transported to a normal world and then come back in connection with perhaps the
second coming of Christ and perhaps the magisterial sons but I think both and
help out the elect for a thousands and more in the new society of the "kingdom
of Heaven" on earth.
line 52: On presettled worlds, planets without morontia temples, these
fusion flashes many times occur in the planetary atmosphere, where the
material body of a translation candidate is elevated by the midway
creatures and the physical controllers.
Is there links to
mars to another civilisation
September 7th 07
posted
09-06-2007 09:23 PM
And here was the piece I was searching
for in my study into the Mars connection as my research was leading me
quote:
On the nonbreathing worlds
the animal species are radically unlike those found on the atmospheric
planets. The nonbreathing plan of life varies from the technique of
existence on an atmospheric world; even in survival their peoples differ,
being candidates for Spirit fusion. Nevertheless, these beings enjoy life
and carry forward the activities of the realm with the same relative trials
and joys that are experienced by the mortals living on atmospheric worlds. In
mind and character the nonbreathers do not differ from other mortal types.
You would be more than interested in the planetary conduct of this type of
mortal because such a race of beings inhabits a sphere in close proximity to
Urantia.
And the above could be the Urantia
link to Mars, being a non breather planet where a civilized may exist and still
functions but underground and could be quite advanced in technology.
Interesting to ponder.
Here is interesting images I collected last night just looking around. Looking
for clues, im really fascinated with the clues.
Hi Ive been using a little
creative imagination in the journey.
I came across this thread that lead me to Jesus tomb and then to the great
Pyramid and then on to Dalamatia and then to Mars and then ultimately Jerusem.
Ive been following symbolism in the triangle, circles, diamonds, www or mmm
shapes.
I believe it could very lead to some sort of contact and I feel a sub breather
civilization lives there where sentient life evolved there due to the evolution
of the planet.
I thought it could be interesting.
To me its just bloody exciting!
Quote:
PAPER 98 - THE MELCHIZEDEK
TEACHINGS IN THE OCCIDENT, Oct 19 2000
* line 70: Having grown out of the earlier
religious forms of worship of the family gods into the tribal reverence for
Mars, the god of war, it was natural that the later religion of the Latins
was more of a political observance than were the intellectual systems of the
Greeks and Brahmans or the more spiritual religions of several other
peoples.
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 65: Beings such as the Urantia races
are classified as mid-breathers; you represent the average or typical
breathing order of mortal existence. If
intelligent creatures should exist on a planet with an atmosphere
similar to that of your near neighbor, Venus, they would belong to the
superbreather group, while those inhabiting a
planet with an atmosphere as thin as that of your outer neighbor,
Mars, would be denominated subbreathers.
In the red highlight in the above how the English alters from
If intelligent
creatures "should" existspeaking about life conditions on Venus
for a super breather although the UB does qualify that a race of this type
doesn't exist in Venus.
However, when speaking about Mars the authors change there English to "while
those inhabiting a planet with an atmosphere the key word being "While
THOSE inhabiting a planet" Then in the
same breath in another section of the UB virtually confirms Mars as suitable as
a Sub-breather people. Put two and two together method and through an
elimination process and I believe you have the answer.
The UB Book is telling you without telling you that a civilisation of
Sub-breather exist on Mars and which confirmed by this statement "
Quote:
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED
WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 99: You would be more than
interested in the planetary conduct of this type of mortal because such a
race of beings inhabitsa spherein
close proximity to Urantia.
Well there you go, it doesn't speak of another Galaxy or a far distant place in
the Universe, it speaks of a sphere close by to Urantia who are a people of sub
breathers and who seems to be quite impressive in there conduct.
They seem quite friendly and fraternal.
I suppose its a process of Elimination of the worlds that would suitable for a
sub breather group. That would Mars the only planet that has a thin atmosphere
and does have all the ingredients for Sub breather life evolution.
Here is a little more on the special section of the Worlds of the Non breathers
but I suppose this could apply to Sub breathers. Note that if you compiled all
the
