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Icon 1 posted 04-03-2008 05:45 PM


Probably not, but that's how the people at the time perceived it and assumed there own thoughts on the mass destruction of the cities even though it was due to a natural process. To them it was a completely supernatural experience and in their interpretation involved God and judgement that has continued to today.

That's why they revered the Melchizedek as a Demigod as they assumed he has something to do with it somehow.

Man in his superstition with little scientific knowledge.

Here is thought but I dont know!

What if the Dead Sea was in them days was a freshwater lake considering the amount of cities surrounding that area. Where a comet came and smashed in to the dead sea causing more subsidence and much salt. The brimstone or sulfur balls was the fallout of the Asteroid whilst on approach to its end destination.

Another thought Volcanic action but are there volcanoes in that area. I dont think so.

Here is a link that connects the Dead Sea with Subsidence. The Dead Sea does have a history of Subsidence. Maybe there was a rapid subsidence during the times of the cities, like in Dalamatia City and as a result some Volcanic action occurred where the fall out of sulphur which meant the demise of the valley cities??

Its all speculation but there has to be a natural logical process in what destroyed the cities. That would be a good study!

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13492658


Still it has the type of today in my mind. The beforehand event horizon of the event, seen in the future similar to the warning given to Abraham followed by the destruction of the cities.


all the best
sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-03-2008 10:48 PM


Wirelessguru, I think you're right on many levels

For example time travel. I believe the mind can be taken to the future. Why just our imagination can take our mind into far off places.

Yes I see rupture as well, including a rapture ahaha

Also about drugs, I believe they were used by priest of old and even in these days to, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm talking about natural the effects of natural things from the earth.

Not talking about chemicals and all that complete rubbish. Those are mind destroyers as I have been robbed by people who subscribed to those things and also I have seen people deteriorate over time in every way.

From what I have seen on Google TV, many priests of the ancient past used mushrooms, gas (unknowingly) probably weed to open up the certain receptors of there brain.

Mind you many of the effects of these drugs probably brought on some trance like state and hallucinations. Surprisingly, many of the long range prophecies have come to pass from what I had seen in the Google Videos. Who and what was tapped into I dont know but many things of the future were seen.

I agree with you that the EM imbalance of the approaching Angona system will effect many other energy levels, even the energies that we dont know about yet.

It will be like a microwave oven particularly when the Sun begins to emit more and larger Solar flares. Then things will really start to boil.

Its interesting that Mars is warming up to. Perhaps the effect of EM energies felt in the long range.

I'm sure this has a relationship with gravitational energy of the two systems as such short range on the approach.

Interesting to ponder!

I think History repeats itself but this time I think its a little different because the ancient first beginning places are involved kept for a reason.

Perhaps a wake up call, the initial signaling of the approaching reality. Perhaps that was the reason for this whole journey, what a Testamony, what an ark! in my view.



Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2008 05:28 AM


ahahaha The Angona System is like the Father who came close to the Mother and gives birth to the solar family.

It just like some relationships, the Mother becomes pregnant and the Father just just wanders into deep space on some orbit, like many only to coming back to he started from visiting the kids and reuniting with the Mother only to go on another distant voyage. Whilst the father is away The Mother rears the planets of the solar system patiently.

When he comes back he creates havoc. I can see the metaphor in real life from some.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2008 06:46 AM


Hey Wireless check out this Video about Nibiru

And checkout the triangles in association with the Red Disk. This could eclipse the end of Lucifer and Judgment and in relation to the triangles which point to the truth of the fallen Sons from Dalamatia City. To me it point resolve and the connection to the cities in relation to Judgement
Google Video part 1

Note on the centre of the Sun symbol you have the 3 concentric circles and have all these triangles all over the circular Symbol. Like a city with a circular temple with triangle surrounding it and particularly triangles that lead to the gate. Like triangle gates.

How curious how that contains all the symbolism of the ancient cities and has the right symbolism and attached to Nibiru.

Remember when I working on the symbol triangle with the circle in the middle. I separated the ends of the triangle(6 ends) bowed it 60 degrees by 6 in to the middle of the shape which make 2 circles and 6 ends bowed 60 degrees inwardly = 360 degrees like a universal compass which means 4 angels of the heavens which john mentions as beasts but actually the universal controllers and there work is related to universe time and direction, these beast a quite something from the Urantia Book perspective and I believe this symbol could be related to them as a universal compass in metaphor.

It could be all related to the Angona System and it approach from what this guys says.

I must say its a very intriguing building.

The wing disk on top of the building could symbolize the first city of Dalamatia city with the symbol and the same be found in the shape of the highland triangular valley of Van with the 3 co planar circles and the same in 1Eden? But the triangle circles has definite commonality. It also symbolizes the advent of Nibiru.

The Sign and the event.

Now Im watching Part 3, Im not sure where part 2 is.

Google Video part 3

But now they are looking inside the building inside the ice rink and top of the ice on the ceiling are the 3 co planar circles. The building is a walking story of the end times and the passage of the Angona system or Nibiru.

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I amazed that the 3 co planar circles are involved including the triangles with the triangle circle chevron and the 3 concentric circles in the middle of the Sun circle eclipsed by The Angona System in its passage in all in the same timing. NOW virtually.

Now there looking at where this design perpetuated and make a connection to Alexandra Palace with the crown on the top representing the Crown but I wonder if its related to the Seventh Mystery the Crown of the beginning city where the symbol of the circle and triangle came from?

I found video 2
Google Video 2

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Note the 3 coplanar roof on top of the original palace, 3 circular roofs with the middle roof being the biggest.

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Pretty full on the study, I'm seeing something totally different in may ways because all the symbolism fits.


And the newest building we have the 3 circles either end of the building and in the middle and appears to be related to triangles. All shapes and symbolism.

And this Egyptian tablet found in Abydos Egypt.

Maybe it is a record of the ancient places in a modern world or even with submarines going down under the water living in a capsule studying the artifacts of Dalamatia City. I had a similar inspiration/thought about a building and underwater city capsule like NEMO that housed the city and call it a country, a submerged country where people and citizens of the country can visit and walk around the place.

I dont know, I see the same idea on the following tablet. It also depict current war helicopters and the submerged city virtualy in a potential war zone and its the ruins that fascinate me that its related to Archeology.
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The image depicts many submarines perhaps going down to the ancient cities and it appears to be a hive of activity. It could be the story of the cities and the outcome, a living prophecy today looking the past fulfilling itself as we realize it....maybe!

Are we seeing ourselves in the current reality, looking into the past through symbols a perpetuating story that is fulfilling itself now.

Note: the tube going to the surface for air to the underwater capsule near the ruins. Its underwater and is about the sites and the story.

There are more videos overall. I found interesting even though I have a few ideas of my own. The space ship probably represent rapture of Gods people within the design of the dome s of many early churches.

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Hey Wireless check out this Video about Nibiru

And checkout the triangles in association with the Red Disk. This could eclipse the end of Lucifer and Judgment and in relation to the triangles which point to the truth of the fallen Sons from Dalamatia City. To me it point resolve and the connection to the cities in relation to Judgement
Google Video part 1

Note on the centre of the Sun symbol you have the 3 concentric circles and have all these triangles all over the circular Symbol. Like a city with a circular temple with triangle surrounding it and particularly triangles that lead to the gate. Like triangle gates.

How curious how that contains all the symbolism of the ancient cities and has the right symboliam and attached to Nibiru.

Remember when I working on the symbol triangle with the circle in the middle. I separated the ends of the triangle(6 ends) bowed it 60 degrees by 6 in to the middle of the shape which make 2 circles and 6 ends bowed 60 degrees inwardly = 360 degrees like a universal compass which means 4 angels of the heavens which john mentions as beasts but actually the universal controllers and there work is related to universe time and direction, these beast a quite something from the Urantia Book perspective and I believe this symbol could be related to them as a universal compass in metaphor.

It could be all related to the Angona System and it approach from what this guys says.

I must say its a very intriguing building.

The wing disk on top of the building could symbolize the first city of Dalamatia city with the symbol and the same be found in the shape of the highland triangular valley of Van with the 3 co planar circles and the same in 1Eden? But the triangle circles has definite commonality. It also symbolizes the advent of Nibiru.

The Sign and the event.

Now Im watching Part 3, Im not sure where part 2 is.

Google Video part 3

But now they are looking inside the building inside the ice rink and top of the ice on the ceiling are the 3 co planar circles. The building is a walking story of the end times and the passage of the Angona system or Nibiru.

 -


I amazed that the 3 co planar circles are involved including the triangles with the triangle circle chevron and the 3 concentric circles in the middle of the Sun circle eclipsed by The Angona System in its passage in all in the same timing. NOW virtually.

Now there looking at where this design perpetuated and make a connection to Alexandra Palace with the crown on the top representing the Crown but I wonder if its related to the Seventh Mystery the Crown of the beginning city where the symbol of the circle and triangle came from?

I found video 2
Google Video 2

 -

Note the 3 coplanar roof on top of the original palace, 3 circular roofs with the middle roof being the biggest.

 -

Pretty full on the study, I'm seeing something totally different in may ways because all the symbolism fits.


And the newest building we have the 3 circles either end of the building and in the middle and appears to be related to triangles. All shapes and symbolism.

And this Egyptian tablet found in Abydos Egypt.

Maybe it is a record of the ancient places in a modern world or even with submarines going down under the water living in a capsule studying the artifacts of Dalamatia City. I had a similar inspiration/thought about a building and underwater city capsule like NEMO that housed the city and call it a country, a submerged country where people and citizens of the country can visit and walk around the place.

I dont know, I see the same idea on the following tablet. It also depict current war helicopters and the submerged city virtualy in a potential war zone and its the ruins that fascinate me that its related to Archeology.
 -

The image depicts many submarines perhaps going down to the ancient cities and it appears to be a hive of activity. It could be the story of the cities and the outcome, a living prophecy today looking the past fulfilling itself as we realize it....maybe!

Are we seeing ourselves in the current reality, looking into the past through symbols a perpetuating story that is fulfilling itself now.

Note: the tube going to the surface for air to the underwater capsule near the ruins. Its underwater and is about the sites and the story.

There are more videos overall. I found interesting even though I have a few ideas of my own. The space ship probably represent rapture of Gods people within the design of the dome s of many early churches.

Nasca Lines
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Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2008 03:37 PM 


Ub Fragment relating to symbols.

 

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Religion arises as a biologic reaction of mind to spiritual beliefs and the environment; it is the last thing to perish or change in a race. Religion is society's adjustment, in any age, to that which is mysterious. As a social institution it embraces rites, symbols, cults, scriptures, altars, shrines, and temples. Holy water, relics, fetishes, charms, vestments, bells, drums, and priesthoods are common to all religions. And it is impossible entirely to divorce purely evolved religion from either magic or sorcery.


and this fantastic fragment

 

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The pouring out of the Spirit of Truth provides the spiritual foundation for the realization of great achievements in the interests of the human race of the bestowal world. U rantia is therefore far better prepared for the more immediate realization of a planetary government with its laws, mechanisms, symbols, conventions, and language-- all of which could contribute so mightily to the establishment of world-wide peace under law and could lead to the sometime dawning of a real age of spiritual striving; and such an age is the planetary threshold to the utopian ages of light and life.


and this part

 

quote:


Some early communities were ruled by medicine men, who often acted as chiefs. One man would act as priest, physician, and chief executive. Quite often the early royal insignias had originally been the symbols or emblems of priestly dress.


and this

 

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We speak of God's "first" thought and allude to an impossible time origin of the Eternal Son for the purpose of gaining access to the thought channels of the human intellect. Such distortions of language represent our best efforts at contact-compromise with the time-bound minds of mortal creatures. In the sequential sense the Universal Father never could have had a first thought, nor could the Eternal Son ever have had a beginning. But I was instructed to portray the realities of eternity to the time-limited minds of mortals by such symbols of thought and to designate the relationships of eternity by such time concepts of sequentiality.


and


 

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These are the " seven spirits of God, " "like lamps burning before the throne," which the prophet saw in the symbols of vision. But he did not see the seats of the four and twenty sentinels about these seven adjutant mind-spirits. This record represents the confusion of two presentations, one pertaining to the universe headquarters and the other to the system capital. The seats of the four and twenty elders are on Jerusem, the headquarters of your local system of inhabited worlds.


and

 

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In instituting this remembrance supper, the Master, as was always his habit, resorted to parables and symbols. He employed symbols because he wanted to teach certain great spiritual truths in such a manner as to make it difficult for his successors to attach precise interpretations and definite meanings to his words.

In this way he sought to prevent successive generations from crystallizing his teaching and binding down his spiritual meanings by the dead chains of tradition and dogma. In the establishment of the only ceremony or sacrament associated with his whole life mission, Jesus took great pains to suggest his meanings rather than to commit himself to precise definitions. He did not wish to destroy the individual's concept of divine communion by establishing a precise form; neither did he desire to limit the believer's spiritual imagination by formally cramping it. He rather sought to set man's reborn soul free upon the joyous wings of a new and living spiritual liberty.


Here is an important one about John and symbols and exactly what we see in Revelation.

 

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As John turned this Scripture over in his mind, he began to comprehend the symbolic significance of this Sunday-afternoon pageant. At least, he grasped enough of the meaning of this Scripture to enable him somewhat to enjoy the episode and to prevent his becoming overmuch depressed by the apparent purposeless ending of the triumphal procession. John had a type of mind which naturally tended to think and feel in symbols.


and this part

 

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And we seek for those symbols of meaning wherewith to convey to our fellow men these concepts of the reality of the idealism of the religion of Jesus, and we will not cease to pray for that day when all mankind shall be thrilled by the communal vision of this supreme truth. Just now, our focalized concept of the Father, as held in our hearts, is that God is spirit; as conveyed to our fellows, that God is love.


and

 

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The social consciousness is not inalienable like the God-consciousness; it is a cultural development and is dependent on knowledge, symbols, and the contributions of the constitutive endowments of man--science, morality, and religion. And these cosmic gifts, socialized, constitute civilization.


and this part

 

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Jesus repeatedly taught his apostles that no civilization could long survive the loss of the best in its religion. And he never grew weary of pointing out to the twelve the great danger of accepting religious symbols and ceremonies in the place of religious experience. His whole earth life was consistently devoted to the mission of thawing out the frozen forms of religion into the liquid liberties of enlightened sonship the liquid liberties of enlightened sonship


sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2008 04:14 PM      Profile for sevens     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 


Ub fragments on symbolic

 

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From the dawn of civilization every appealing movement in social culture or religious advancement has developed a ritual, a symbolic ceremonial. The more this ritual has been an unconscious growth, the stronger it has gripped its devotees. The cult preserved sentiment and satisfied emotion, but it has always been the greatest obstacle to social reconstruction and spiritual progress.


and this fantastic piece

 

quote:


the human race espoused the more mystic and symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation of truth itself .


and

 

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The "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" may be a figure of speech, a symbolic designation covering a multitude of human experiences, but the "tree of life" was not a myth; it was real and for a long time was present on Urantia. When the Most Highs of Edentia approved the commission of Caligastia as Planetary Prince of Urantia and those of the one hundred Jerusem citizens as his administrative staff, they sent to the planet, by the Melchizedeks, a shrub of Edentia, and this plant grew to be the tree of life on Urantia. This form of nonintelligent life is native to the constellation headquarters spheres, being also found on the headquarters worlds of the local and superuniverses as well as on the Havona spheres, but not on the system capitals.


Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2008 05:42 PM


quote:


the human race espoused the more mystic and symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation of truth itself


About those google videos in 3 last post about the building and its symbolism. I do see things differently as I see the whole journey to the ancient places and its relations to the approach of Nibiru/Angona/Wormwood as a feasible idea but then again its all in the beholders eye in what he sees and how he basis thoughts upon his own knowledge, the wider the person in what he knows and understands the wider the interpretations is.

I dont see it as bad as he thinks as I think it all about an event, the whole story of the end.

Another thing, I'm wondering if Christianity has the correct interpretation of the Beasts in heaven and there whole and there whole idea of 666 as it could be related to certain components of the symbolism of the Universal compass.

The Ub thoughts on the Beast s in heaven that John saw

 

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But it was of Salvington that John wrote: "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices" --the universe broadcasts to the local systems. He also envisaged the directional control creatures of the local universe, the living compasses of the headquarters world. This directional control in Nebadon is maintained by the four control creatures of Salvington, who operate over the universe currents and are ably assisted by the first functioning mind-spirit, the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of "quick understanding." But the description of these four creatures--called beasts--has been sadly marred; they are of unparalleled beauty and exquisite form.


and this thought about the "mark of the Beast" which is seen as spiritual and I believe its all to do with the infusion of the Fallen Sons of God gene that we inherited. In the Seventh mansion world we overcome the spiritual propensity within us.

and

 

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The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of the immediate postmortal career. During your sojourn here you will receive the instruction of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in the task of preparing you for residence on Jerusem. Any discernible differences between those mortals hailing from the isolated and retarded worlds and those survivors from the more advanced and enlightened spheres are virtually obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here you will be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome environment, and unspiritual planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the "mark of the beast" are here eradicated.


Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2008 05:57 PM


But I thought this was the coolest

 

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the human race espoused the more mystic and symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation of truth itself .


So true a real new beginning.

sevens


If men would maintain their freedom, they must, after having chosen their charter of liberty, provide for its wise, intelligent, and fearless interpretation to the end that there may be prevented:

 

These are the purposes and aims of constitutional tribunals acting as governors upon the engines of representative government on an evolutionary world.

Page 799 Mankind's struggle to perfect government on Urantia has to do with perfecting channels of administration, with adapting them to ever-changing current needs, with improving power distribution within government, and then with selecting such administrative leaders as are truly wise. While there is a divine and ideal form of government, such cannot be revealed but must be slowly and laboriously discovered by the men and women of each planet throughout the universes of time and space.


and another one

 

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The sincere pursuit of goodness, beauty, and truth leads to God. And every scientific discovery demonstrates the existence of both freedom and uniformity in the universe.

The discoverer was free to make the discovery. The thing discovered is real and apparently uniform, or else it could not have become known as a thing.


and this fantastic fragment

 

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"2. Everyone who enjoys wealth as a result of discovery should remember that one individual can live on earth but a short season and should, therefore, make adequate provision for the sharing of these discoveries in helpful ways by the largest possible number of his fellow men.

While the discoverer should not be denied all reward for efforts of discovery, neither should he selfishly presume to lay claim to all of the advantages and blessings to be derived from the uncovering of nature's hoarded resources.


and this one for human relations
 

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In physical life the senses tell of the existence of things; mind discovers the reality of meanings; but the spiritual experience reveals to the individual the true values of life. These high levels of human living are attained in the supreme love of God and in the unselfish love of man. If you love your fellow men, you must have discovered their values. Jesus loved men so much because he placed such a high value upon them. Y ou can best discover values in your associates by discovering their motivation. If some one irritates you, causes feelings of resentment, you should sympathetically seek to discern his viewpoint, his reasons for such objectionable conduct. If once you understand your neighbor, you will become tolerant, and this tolerance will grow into friendship and ripen into love.


sevens


Post  Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:07 pm
Yes Petra I agree, I just find there are too many divides and differences that separate us all. I truly believe that Jesus will reveal the truth and that is it and I hope it will unite all of us in the Body of Jesus in friendship and I know he values friendship above the differences between us even with varying thoughts and opinions.

From what I have been investigation Jesus is truly our Saviour, undoubtedly!

I really believe from what I see before me something is approaching, something really big and all the prophecies will come to pass and it will get very serious and we will all be thinking to ourselves deep within confronted with the inevitable!

Words and opinions wont mean much anymore except the truth and soul. Just a test but there is Jesus and I feel confident that he has a preservation plan for the highest type human and that is based on faith in truth beauty and goodness and a simple test of man and it will apply to all. Not about race or color but an attitudinal test. I believe this journey brings out the test and the facts on this forum and I believe this is a sample that represents the condition of the body of Jesus and its attitude towards one another.

I just reckon the more we love each other in light of our differences the more progress we will make in the end times and the more successful we will be for this little outpost of truth.

Like what JuJube posted was interesting and provides more useful information to the table that is constructive and brings us closer to the final consummation considering everyones discoveries all working together as a team for reckoning the season with accuracy.

The more positive contributions given freely to all our benefit is really good progress.

Its a time for considering all things put on the table by all the brothers of the body..and sisters off course.

The Father doesn't want man to be a lame duck or some pitiful human hopelessly awaiting for end times in fear and hope he makes cringing, he wants man to be confidently upright, strong in truth and righteousness, moving forward whilst being led in the journey by himself a true witness of the success of the Father and Man working together.

we are Jesus' men on the job and the more united we are the more closer we get to the final consummation.

Sevens

 


Icon 1 posted 04-05-2008 08:50 PM


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No Sevens....just an Atlantis City Limits sign would do very well.


ahahaha no worries Hey you might find the sign Wrong way go back!!

A long wall cuts it very much, especially when its written about and discovered in the precise location.

It cuts it and already people are in denial.

Its in parallel with the discovery of troy, from the books and then in the psychical discovery using the books.

Nothing on this forum comes close!


sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-05-2008 10:05 PM

Here are some articles on Dilmun near the Persian Gulf heads not in Bahrain.

I agree with Theresa Howard-Carter.

 

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In a 1981 Journal of Cuneiform Studies article, "The Tangible Evidence for the Earliest Dilmun", Theresa Howard-Carter espoused her theory identifying Dilmun with Qurna, an island at the Strait of Hormuz.


http://www.jstor.org/pss/1359904

and this


Whats with this reply

"Sorry, we do not permit the following HTML tag or attribute: Parenthesis in HTML tag" where I can post a wikipedia link?? This is ridiculous.


Sevens


Post  Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:34 am
Fragments from the UB on how Jesus may come and it could be related to an event 50/50 he will discerned by the spiritual eye of FAITH, like faith in the journey to everything of the unrevealed, revealed.


 
Quote:

Quote:
Jesus promised to do two things after he had ascended to the Father, and after all power in heaven and on earth had been placed in his hands. He promised, first, to send into the world, and in his stead, another teacher, the Spirit of Truth; and this he did on the day of Pentecost. Second, he most certainly promised his followers that he would sometime personally return to this world. But he did not say how, where, or when he would revisit this planet of his bestowal experience in the flesh. On one occasion he intimated that, whereas the eye of flesh had beheld him when he lived here in the flesh, on his return (at least on one of his possible visits) he would be discerned only by the eye of spiritual faith.1918:06-1919:00



 

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Will he come unannounced and as an isolated event? We do not know. Only one thing we are certain of, that is, when he does return, all the world will likely know about it, for he must come as the supreme ruler of a universe and not as the obscure babe of Bethlehem. But if every eye is to behold him, and if only spiritual eyes are to discern his presence, then must his advent be long deferred. 1919:02



 

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The children of light are all destined to see him, and it is of no serious concern whether we go to him or whether he should chance first to come to us. Be you therefore ever ready to welcome him on earth as he stands ready to welcome you in heaven. 1919:04





 

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The future of Urantia will doubtless be characterized by the appearance of teachers of religious truth--the Fatherhood of God and the fraternity of all creatures. But it is to be hoped that the ardent and sincere efforts of these future prophets will be directed less toward the strengthening of interreligious barriers and more toward the augmentation of the religious brotherhood of spiritual worship among the many followers of the differing intellectual theologies which so characterize Urantia of Satania.1010:04


 

I thought there were many clues to attitude and end times and seeing Jesus through the spiritual eyes in connection to his advent.

and this referring to the holy spirit

 

Quote:

Quote:
180:6.4
"This spirit will not speak of himself, but he will declare to you that which the Father has revealed to the Son, and he will even show you things to come; he will glorify me even as I have glorified my Father. This spirit comes forth from me, and he will reveal my truth to you. Everything which the Father has in this domain is now mine; wherefore did I say that this new teacher would take of that which is mine and reveal it to you.



 

Sounds very interesting and these ancient places are the crowns and the possession of Jesus.

 

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176:2.4 "You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in the flesh, but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name.



the eye of the spirit that will perceive him.


Sevens

 


« Reply #36 on: Today at 01:48:44 am »
 

I am being guided in equal measure throughout all the scriptures I have nothing to fear for I have the Saviour by my side.  He is guiding me throughout all the books of religion.

I am on the true path of truth.

I am very satisfied with my path.

Calvin will not convince me otherwise as he has his own challenges.

I am ahead of Calvin, if anything Calvin should learn from this.  I have been led to the first cities and are a co discoverer and have documented the journey where it leads me to rapture before the approaching Angona System as seen in the skies.

There is no other journey on the planet, no other that leads to judgement and that reveals all the ancient places in the beforehand.

Sevens

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-876708527970151407&q=Hattusha&total=22&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Archaeology, Cultural Anthropology – “The dark Lords of Hattusha


Icon 1 posted 04-06-2008 04:26 PM


The Urantia Book speaks about a wall being the last remnant of 1stEden. It doesn't mention man made or anything just a STONE wall.

That is exactly what we found in the location led by the Urantia Book.

Plus there are other anomalies on the Acropolis Hill, at the top and the base found in the first scan.

Essentially the Acropolis Hill was refashioned to look like 3 co planar silos. The evidence of this can be found at the base and it corresponds to the 3 co planar circles on top of the Hill.

1stEden being the land of the Gods so to speak is the Atlantis of the Med 38,000 years ago.

Atlantis in legend was the land of Gods right before they fell. Right!

It just so happens there are 2 locations of the Land of the Gods from a different time period and both land of the Gods have been located in different locations and that makes the Persian Gulf also the Atlantis of the Persian Gulf in truth being the land of the Gods.

However, Dilmun the evacuation place of the fallen Sons of God, after the fall of Dalamatia City is where the Atlantis legend originated from and went throughout the world by proxy of Dilmun of the East and of the North over time!

Essentially, the description of Atlantis given, if anything the city layout fits the location of Dilmun to North but in some areas it fits Dalamatia City and uncannily it also fits 1stEden as well.

Plato is a real mix of many relevant places of the the Gods from all over places and each place is present in the description.

The Pillars of Heracles associated with Gibraltar is a later interpretation in my view! Remember, the Persian Gulf had heads with a sea to the West and East. The Persian Gulf Heads is a place of crossing.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-07-2008 05:14 AM


Hi Im looking for references of Wormwood in the bible and seeing if there is any connection to Nibiru/The Angona System/planetX in characteristics.

In the following are various fragments out of the Bible containing wormwood.

 

quote:


6 Seek the Lord, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Beth-el.

AMOS
CHAPTER 5

7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in the earth,


8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:

9 That strengtheneth the spoiled against the strong, so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress.

10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate , and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.


and here is another

 

quote:


DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29

18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;


and

 

quote:


DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29

14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

15 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.

16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.


and


 

quote:


THE PROVERBS
CHAPTER 5
4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two edged sword.

5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.

7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth


and

 

quote:


DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29
17 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)

18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;

19 And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:


and

 

quote:


13 He hath caused the arrows of his quiver to enter into my reins.

14 I was a aderision to all my people; and their song all the day.

15 He hath filled me with bitterness, he hath made me drunken with wormwood.

16 He hath also broken my teeth with gravel stones, he hath covered me with ashes.

17 And thou hast removed my soul far off from peace: I forgat prosperity.

18 And I said, My strength and my hope is perished from the Lord:

19 Remembering mine affliction and my misery, the wormwood and the gall.


and lastly

The following sounds like the passage of Wormwood the brown drawf and a progression of all the things that will happen during its passage!

The first to the 6th angels could be the progression of the disasters of Wormwood/The Angona System.

 

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7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
 


To me it describes the passage of Wormwood/The Angona System/PlanetX/Nibiru. In all the scriptures it seems to suggest that wormwood is very bitter and hard to swallow. It will be the result of the passage of Wormwood in the literal sense.

Wormwood for man will be a very bitter thing for man to experience. In all this experience it seems that the surrounding asteroids my enter the earth and cause all kinds of damage not to mention earthquakes. Apparently it appears to get very hot on the planet. This fall out much make the waters bitter and undrinkable.

This one seems to be straight forward

7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in the earth,

Then the following gives you advise before judgement.

8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:

and this one about the gates and of what is spoke! Is that the gates that lead to the cities in the literal sense as we have we have the ancient cities.

10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate , and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.

and then in rev, the definition of wormwood. What is Wormwood that responsible for all this chaos on earth.

11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Apparently Wormwood will be seen in the skies in 2 years time but it will be like in the days of Noah. Personally I expect rapture of the first fruits before Wormwood is seen. It would be part of the realisation and the refining.

sevens



sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-07-2008 03:10 AM


No your just in denial of the locations and of the evidence and what is written and that is plain as day.

With the false comment is this the purge of set religion and doctrine or something?

All I am is a normal bloke going through the books with my own inquiry seeing for myself like everyone else. I'm no writer and no author just a simple recorder from a mount that writes simply (with plenty of grammatical mistakes ahahaha). It just so happens I have a deep interest in religion, science, archeology and God all combined. Nothing wrong with that and if things get prophetical in the journey then so be it, If its true it will come to pass, isn't that the test of a prophet as in the standards laid down in the bible??

All I'm doing is writing what I feel when I come over things in relation to my focalisation to the ancient places, like everyone else on this planet when they are inspired about something and want to express it.

And since I have been led to believe in the books of religion that this is a quest and I like to do a good job for the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven! and you would do the same I'm sure if you where in my shoes seeing things the way I do and how they all come together in oneness.

Brig you know that i had a couple cracks at the placing the day of the Lord through patterns and dates found in the books. Each time nothing happened whereas it was like a rehearsal. However instead of a dramatic event, a city of our ancient past was found which led me to believe there was more to this story thus being led along the way through the books.

Each year since being on this forum in around the time period of what I call a prophecy season 4th July till October, I have discovered a city. Equally timed and spaced from each another in the timeline and considering there are multiple locations discovered dotted across the middle east and neighboring regions.

Now in this year the journey leads to outer space to Wormwood in the next stage of journey. Considering Jesus will reveal all things and then the end shall come. So obviously it seems apparent that the journey is clearly pointing the cause of many problems the planet will have in the future as foreseen. Wormwood!

Even Jesus said that he will bring right to the footsteps of judgement and that includes after the revealing of all things hidden which points to the ancient places with a new book incorporating all things.

stay tuned eh!

Its funny where we area at right now is in between the past and the ultimate demise in the future. These places have an deep underlying message that affects us all and is subtly pointing all of us to the truth of the future. Its all being defined!

sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-07-2008 06:06 PM


It just seems that the Ark is the rapture including all the information leading to it and after rapture when the ark closes then, as in Noah's days it begins as the wormwood will be seen and verified by governments. When the door is closed, its closed and all will be banging on the door.

Something like that! To me that would be the logical thing in the correction of current truth.

Hate to sound dire but concerning Wormwood perhaps some its debris will be sulphur balls, the same sulphur balls that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah including the other cities.

Perhaps these sulphur balls are debris from the Wormwood on its second last approach to this solar system.

From what I understand the orbit of Nibiru is about 3600 years. Sodom was destroyed 6000 years ago. However it seems out as Nibiru would of been 1200 years away from our solar system when the cities were destroyed.

Maybe what destroyed Sodom was trailing debris caught in our earths atmosphere destined for Sodom. It appears in Deuteronomy that the same will occur again as in the days of Sodom perhaps this wormwood approach will be linked to a planetary event perceived as Judgment as in those days and does shower us with fire and brimstone sulfur balls.

its a thought!

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-07-2008 06:25 PM


Oh well all in the name of progress. I wonder if the holographs will lead to false realities that may really led man astray in his perception of reality itself. Where he gets addicted to 3d holographs which can distort his reality.

I know in heaven they have these devices where you can be in any reality of the past. We will all see them.

I suppose it comes down to the programming and the program that drives these things.

I gotta say I could do with a 3d companion right now. ahahahahahahahah

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-08-2008 01:11 AM


Hi

Here is some fragments from the Kolbrin bible written by the Egyptians after the time of Moses. Below is an example of how these scripts also look to PlanetX/The destroyer as a time of change

 

quote:


Destroyer references from the Kolbrin Bible
http://kolbrin.com/

Manuscripts 3:4 When blood drops upon the Earth, the Destroyer will appear , and mountains will open up and belch forth fire and ashes. Trees will be destroyed and all living things engulfed. Waters will be swallowed up by the land, and seas will boil.

Manuscripts 3:5 The Heavens will burn brightly and redly; there will be a copper hue over the face of the land, ‘followed by a day of darkness. A new moon will appear and break up and fall.

Manuscripts 3:6 The people will scatter in madness. They will hear the trumpet and battlecry of the Destroyer and will seek refuge within dens in the Earth. Terror will eat away their hearts, and their courage will flow from them like water from a broken pitcher. They will be eaten u in the flames of wrath and consumed by the breath of the Destroyer.

Manuscripts 3:10 In those days, men will have the Great Book before them; wisdom will be revealed; the few will be gathered for the stand; it is the hour of trial. The dauntless ones will survive; the stouthearted will not go down to destruction.


This new book that reveals everything in this time is the urantia Book and everything in the above verse is exactly about this journey!

Even the Egyptians saw this time.

Undoubtedly

Sevens


Post  Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:23 am
Wow man thats full on.

Why all of a sudden? Why is there a sense of urgency?

sevens

JORDAN MAXWELL.The Bible, End Times & Prehistory 8/10

 

The Nibiru triangle

Taken from  here

Search for Planet X (Part 4)

 

Nibiru Seven dots

 

Just watching some videos

 

Sometimes I wonder whether this journey to the ancient places is a complete fulfillment 70 years after Israel was born.

Ive said in the past that I believe this journey to the ancient places is the Zion or the new Jerusalem as that represents truth.  I believe the truth and discovery of the ancient places is the spiritual fulfillment as that represents the absolute past and has been hidden revealed.

We have all the components. A journey since 2003 and then 1st expedition to 1stEden 2004.  This also incorporates the multiple discoveries of Dalamatia City, Babel/Dilmun, Van highland discovery and 1stSusa.

I feel the whole journey to cities and the end times is contained in full in the Odes of Solomon and the St Ephraim and the Seven pearls.  I feel that use of the texts combined with all the discoveries is the rebuilding of the temple.  I also find it interesting that the journey of the city has continued to Wormwood/The Angona System

To me this journey reflects all the prophecies.

I  wonder whether 666 is related to the 360 degrees of the circle.  Like 6 x 60 degrees = 360

It might signify the orbit of Wormwood 360 , its mark.  Wormwood it exactly like the beast.  Which is the beast in my view.  The beast descriptions in the world system is most likely the political signature of the time when Wormwood arrives the best.

In the journey we have the

Cities
Gates and its rebuke
The submerged country of the realm of Paradise was declared home of the ancient days
We have Wormwood on the approach.
What is hidden has been revealed
The cities are revealed
When revealed we know the end is near.


Post  Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:25 am
AAHHHH Come on, what is this persecution time, like the Salem witch hunt or something.

Actually I question your sense of Christianity with all its judgement upon others particularly upon those who do love Jesus and the Father even with varying ideas.

You're no Christian in attitude in the light of truth. I certainly dont see the witness of the Holy Spirit in your verbal attacks without spiritual substance.

In this world you

Multiple Christian organizations that have differing doctrines. All of them are different so how can you be so judgmental upon those that have differing ideas.

This whole difference is one of the things that will be refined by Wormwood the destroyer with only one truth and that will be the truth of Jesus. It maybe that those who impose judgment on one another may have to stay here for the refining.

sevens

« Reply #15 on: Today at 08:36:47 pm »
 

Well Calvin and MOB

If you hide and dont respond I will just go back to the gates of the Cities of truth and sit and wait for Wormwood to come with a rebuke!

Its the journey of the end times leading from the cities to Wormwood/The Angona system/The Destroyer/Nibiru.

As Wormwood approaches maybe people will start coming in to the gates to find the truth of everything.

As for there is very few.

Remember this in the Kolbrin Bible if you can handle it whilst hiding behind doctrine.  Another book that comes to light with its contribution to the end times as truth was embedded in all the books without prejudice!

 
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Manuscripts 3:10     In those days, men will have the Great Book before them; wisdom will be revealed; the few will be gathered for the stand; it is the hour of trial.  The dauntless ones will survive; the stouthearted will not go down to destruction.


Exactly what we have today!  as plain as day!

And this one Calvin....The following has all the components of the journey to the ancient places, this journey and no other.  Everything was done and consummated by myself without any knowledge of this in this journey to the cities of truth.


 

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AMOS
CHAPTER 5
6 Seek the Lord, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Beth-el.

7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in the earth,

8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:

9 That strengtheneth the spoiled against the strong, so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress.

10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate , and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.



The following verse associated judgement to the Wormwood and its approach.  Judgement is related to righteousness Many turn against the truth in the initial process.  Its inconvenient 7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood , and leave off righteousness in the earth,

In metaphor I see many reflections that accompany this journey to the cities.  It reflects direct advise to seek the Lord and his wisdom in this time

8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:

The Seven stars is related to the Seventh Mystery and one of its components is Seven. the seven stars and Orion It seems that the Seven components is attached to Paradise and the Universal Fathers.  In the following we find turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night It appears that in the light of ultimate disaster an event occurs which for some turns the Night into day which means the truth comes to pass, it arises.  All that is said comes to pass.  It is true and the realisation of that in the physical is a real morning light in the realisation for some.  However for some its like the Day turning into night the realisation of the ultimate destiny in the approach of Wormwood.  Complete disaster full of fear. I feel the following points directly to the submerged truth of the cities of truth which opens the truth of the past. Calling to the waters, calling to the past to reveal themselves, the call for truth where the truth fills the whole earth Like in this journey to the ancient cities and the use of the Internet worldwide access for all freely given. that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:  And the Lord is his name, The Lord has his Seventh marker on this construct.  The truth makes the weak strong That strengtheneth the spoiled against the strong, so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress.

To me this all points to the Gates of truth that one has to pass the view to the physical cities surrounded by branches of truth relating to the cities. 10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate , and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.  It speaks directly of the Gate which is related to a city and also states that a rebuke lays at the gates which is all to so with this journey.  People dont like the truth but Paradise fully supports the truth as expressed at the gates.  The End times is related to this journey and its is described in the Bible to a tee in relating to the ongoing reality of the unfolding of this mystery.  A living mystery like this book a living book! 

And remember at the end times like in this time the final construct follows this order  Manuscripts 3:10     In those days, men will have the Great Book before them; wisdom will be revealed; the few will be gathered for the stand; it is the hour of trial.  The dauntless ones will survive; the stouthearted will not go down to destruction.
A great new book related to the revealing of the truth as in the cities.  A book and journey that goes before judgement like in this journey.  Only those that believe will survive.

I believe this event in the following is the rapture of the elect and the faithful but I believe this will happen before the mass realisation of wormwood.  When the realisation of Wormwood occurs then I feel this will happen.  Manuscripts 3:6 The people will scatter in madness.   They will hear the trumpet and battlecry of the Destroyer and   will seek refuge within dens in the Earth.    Terror will eat away their hearts, and their courage will flow from them like water from a broken pitcher. They will be eaten u in the flames of wrath and consumed by the breath of the Destroyer.  This I believe will happen at the realisation of the truth including the missed opportunity of rapture in realisation of the approach of Wormwood.

In all of this there lays a very harsh penalty for mankind and for everything he represents.  This journey maybe the ark to success through the abyss of this oncoming reality!


Sevens



There are some additions in this post.

Re: Nibiru, planetX, the Urantia Book and Doomsday
« Reply #16 on: Today at 09:45:42 pm »

Just watching some videos Looking for some key pointers that they might of uncovered but aware of the implication.


http://www.youtube.com/v/a9aoUsupCSY&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/v/BEQ-ClF20NY&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/v/lWKiP6Qfflo&hl=en

 
In the following are some notes I was taking
.....................
Sometimes I wonder whether this journey to the ancient places is a complete fulfillment of prophecy of the Spiritual Israel,  70 years in 2008 after Israel was born in 1948 and this also fits Nostradamus' quatrains of the present time of what he saw.

Ive said in the past that I believe this journey to the ancient places is the Zion or the new Jerusalem as that represents truth in the spiritual realm in relation to the journey.  I believe the truth and discovery of the ancient places is the spiritual fulfillment as that represents the absolute past and has been hidden and now revealed.

We have all the components. The journey since 2003 and before and then the 1st expedition to 1stEden/Atlantis of the Med in 2004 and which incorporates the multiple discoveries of Dalamatia City, Babel/Dilmun, Van highland discovery and 1stSusa is the journey of truth and revealing and representative of Paradise.

I feel the whole journey to cities and the end times is contained in full in the Odes of Solomon and the St Ephraim in the Seven pearls.  I feel that the use of the texts combined with all the discoveries is the rebuilding of the temple, Solomons Temple in the spiritual realm of Jesus and related to the revealing of what is hidden.  I also find it interesting that the journey of the city has continued to Wormwood/The Angona System.  The journey hasn't stopped but there is an end.  While people are looking at physical Israel for all the answers maybe there really overlooking the real spiritual arising that is happening with these cities and the revealing of them being called from the sea.  They are the instruments and the journey is all recorded in the Odes of Solomon.  Its is living reality of the Odes of Solomons and the crowns in the outworking in todays reality relating to the cities of truth.  The Temple of Solomon which are the first cities of where the the tree of of life lays.  This is the Temple of Solomon in the Spiritual and in the physical and the rebuilding of the temple in truth.

To me this journey reflects all the prophecies.

I wonder whether 666 is related to the 360 degrees of the circle. Like a triangle where each end is bent 60 degrees inwardly forming a circle 6ends x 60 degrees = 360 thus the triangle circle chevron, does it signify the orbit of wormwood in relation to our solar system even though its a elliptical circle as in the triangle and bent 60 degrees inwardly where all the ends make a circle or a red dwarf coming at us.

It might signify the orbit of Wormwood 360 , its mark.  Wormwood is exactly like the beast.  Which is the beast in my view.  The beast descriptions in the world system is most likely the political signature of the time when Wormwood arrives the beast.

In the journey we have the

Cities
Gates and its rebuke
The submerged country of the realm of Paradise was declared home of the ancient days
We have Wormwood on the approach.
What is hidden has been revealed
The cities are revealed
When revealed we know the end is near.
.......................................

Anyway they were some thoughts that I felt as I watching the videos.  While some people seem skeptical about religion they are not fully aware of the full intimate facts of the journey to the cities  and what causes activation which includes the construct in detail.

Its quite possible that in my contemplations that this could be the real Zion, the truth in the journey to the cities and out of that the truth of the future is confirmed through a demonstration perhaps in the rapture.

A preservation scheme of Paradise of Humans based on simple faith of a child and the out working of that in truth in the daily living which incorporates the truth of Jesus.

Born of the Water and of the Spirit of the Wind.  I wonder if the wind is the internet and the water is the truth from the cities.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-09-2008 09:10 PM


Oh well we are only human in all our imperfections but least we strive for the truth of everything. Thats the main thing and attempt to bring the evidence forth.

Nothing like a mystery unfolding before your very eyes and the thing is I can see the rainbow and it leads to the gates of the Kingdom of Heaven. I believe we have all the instruments and realisation in which a process of change is activated and I feel it has alot to do with the approach and visit of Wormwood.

If those infrared images from the South Pole are right and truthful we have only 2 years head start to plan but I feel a rapture will come before the official trumpet/sighting of Wormwood, the outworking of change.

There are currently 3 preservation plans going on at this time in light of Wormwood. The government plan of self preservation (i.e. the doomsday seed bank), the free for all plan (get watch you can) and the Plan of Jesus the sevenfold scheme of preservation for all man. A plan open for all man with doors currently open.

I feel we are on the verge of a massive breakthrough and the time clock is ticking away! Wormwood is the signature of the time clock.

If you're interested in more here is another post on another forum.

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,8241.msg75707.html#msg75707

I writing different things on different forums, Im not sure if you have to join?


Sevens


« Reply #18 on: Today at 11:26:41 pm »
 

Ahh  Come on!  No way

I use as many resources that I feel where truth emanates from.  I dont care where it comes from I dont look at the books with prejudice.  I really love this research and make it available to all because I really enjoy being led throughout the books of religion.

You know in all this time Satan does not enter into the debate nor comes into my ind because I am consumed with Holy Spirit in this journey.  I feel it is a honour to do this work for Jesus.

You know if the images from the South Pole are correct we have only 2 years when this red dwarf is seen and major disruption can occur.

I'm only sharing this experience with my fellow man I'm not asking for anything because I have already received. 

What if I'm right 12 Apostles and this is the actual outworking of the Holy Spirit within man to bring reveal all things that has been hidden??

See the only way is to go out there and uncover the truth and we can do that now.

An interesting image of an Ancient tablet with Sitchin's thoughts. Note the triangle in association with the winged disk maybe there could be a deeper or another meaning going in the same place.

and look at this following image and its relation to the 3 triangles within the winged disk or red dwarf! and could the 3 triangles within the winged disk signify the 3 locations of truth of the multiple locations where the tree of life was kept in Epochs in the past? Is this an end time scenario of the Journey and the story to the cities of truth leading to the winged disk?? The Destroyer or the visiting Angona system/ Nibiru or Wormwood?? Also note all the Egyptian religious symbols! Does this signify all the religions of the world being gathered unto the triangle in light of the winged disk??

Just some thoughts.

Is this the story of the end times we see before us in symbolism?


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Please reconsider this reckless course and return to the teachings of the Bible, my friend! Heed not the words of Satan.


My friend 12 Apostles, I use the bible all the the time in my focalisation I have demonstrated this throughout the course.  I have no fear in what I find because i find it inspiring and I know the Jesus my friend is setting the pathway of this journey. 

As far as I'm concerning,  I'm in the promised land already being led in the truth using everything.  I have no fear because I know Jesus my friend is with me on this path and we are breaking ground together and Jesus will come to the rescue of his servants as part of the realisation of truth.  Like an Ark! Like in Noah's days.

Anyway I just used AMOS CHAPTER 5 in a couple of posts behind. I use the bible!

Its either truth or false and the church could put some resources into this to find the truth for the congregation.

http://www.youtube.com/v/wwLcFOLC9RM&hl=en

and these ones

PlanetX/Wormwood/The Destroyer/Nibiru/The Angona System as from the Urantia Book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh_qTnn3omc&feature=related

And here is video with pictures of PlanetX/Wormwood/The Destroyer/Nibiru/The Angona System and its planets, the Angona System!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AmdazwAcgw&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/v/aPw78L_yhE0&hl=en

and this one reflecting the various preservations schemes underway

http://www.youtube.com/v/LPzOZD5cWR8&hl=en

Like the truth in metaphor and literal coming out of the sea revealing itself in light of the Winged Disk. The light in the Abyss in light of the reality.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1982955118603744392


Still remember Joseph prophesied to the Egyptian King to store his wheat for Seven years for it followed Sevens years of famine!!

Sevens
 


« Reply #19 on: Today at 05:42:20 pm »
 

The Egyptian winged disk below and its triangle symbolism to me identical to the triangle of truth.

The Wasp in the middle has the sting of truth and some religion do topple as truth of the matter arises. I feel its the end time scenario represented by symbolism in the final scenario!



and the triangle of truth following the journey of the tree of life.



And now it has been completed with the approach of Nibiru/The Angona System/Wormwood/The Destroyer system coming our way. 

I personally feel that the Egyptian winged disk prophecy in the image has been fulfilled today. However, we do have to sight The destroyer with our own eyes but it is seen in the images from the South Pole using an earth bound IRAS.

Always remember that the Jewish religion and the Egyptian religion do have a relationship in the past and Moses was brought up in the knowledge of the Egyptian religion and the Hebrew religion and many Egyptian proverbs from the Book of Wisdom in those times was adopted in the Hebrew religious documents through Moses. Compiling the best of all things for his people.

Why the Essenes in there thoughts was also affected by the Egyptian thought and ideas in some ways to.

All connected with commonality in the symbols leading to the same place within the approach of Wormwood. Its the scenario we live in today as in the Egyptian Winged disk image.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-10-2008 05:26 PM


Hey Wrielessguru

Just go here, there is a bunch of video I posted yesterday.

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,8241.msg75723.html#msg75723


You'll also see some of the stuff I have to contend with.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-11-2008 06:00 AM


Hi wirelessguru.

Ah there ok I dont know to many at the other site but I get some debate mainly finger pointing.

I suppose when Calvin and his friend start attacking the UB i get into the foray and use truth as reply in the research.

All the best
Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-11-2008 06:18 AM


Anyway Ishtar I hope that keeps you a little informed of my journey in the books and videos of recent!

all the best
Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-11-2008 07:47 AM


The more I look at this image the more I see

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For example if you look at this Image from a 3D prospective you see two walls outstreched. As you walk towards the centre, you see what seems a gate below the double circle on top of the gate enclosed with the circle of the Universe as in the stars of the on the Semi circle. The Gaps seems to be an opening of the Gate and the doors are open.

The 3 triangles represent the abode of the tree of life in the Fathers temples. Each location makes a triangle with 2ndEden in the middle. Also not the Circle on top of the gates with the 2 images beside it

Ok now in the image note the wasp or the Bee not the outline of his outer edge of his winf\g and then connect it to the horizontal line across the image.

What do you see?

I see something a number and what number is that?

A seven, number 7 and the triangles are representative of the what leads to the gateway the ancient temples of the first and second epoch and in between the default of the first sons of God and second son of God, Adam.

This is what is hidden and revealed.

Maybe the piece missing on the actual arrival of the Angona system. When that piece is realized in the approach then this piece of the puzzle is fulfilled.

And then right in front of the Seven is the tree of life coming out of the earth. The truth of the tree of life and the cities that represented the tree of the life and the Father in the first times.

Now the gate and its symbol including the 2 falcons either side are the representative of the 3 coplanar symbols and is associated with the gateway. The path is long and the gate is narrow. Yes, the winged disk could be representative of the Angona system in the approach and this maybe the invitation to the gateway and the evacuation of the servants and the elect in this initial time, open to all people of simple faith!

Amazing, to see it first as a winged disk simply in space and then view it from a 3d prospective and see it as gate flanked by walls which are the wings. Like a gathering. In the second image below it flys away where I assume doors closed and where there no access. Also it may seem that wormwood will be coming from South to North route like in the images of the winged disk.

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Just some thoughts...You know....what does all mean in this journey of realization in an epic of discovery.

Maybe its an evacuation Egyptian Stargate represented as rapture in the books in one form or another in light of the truth.

I definitely believe this is part of the Seventh Mystery and perhaps a visual scenario of the end time reality with the cities revealed in the images.

Looking at the image above the image appears to be another Egyptian religious symbol next to the triangle. In front of the gates.


And note Seven is right in the middle of the 3 triangles, the temples of the tree of life where Seven is supping of the tree of life and it appears to be the entry key to the mystery of the Father in the end times. But the Seven is made up of the Bee which pollinates the truth of the tree of life before the gate in the journey to the Cities of the Heritage of the Ages. Mans and Gods heritages and this is the correction of the truth through enlightenment. What comes after then is up to the individual!

Its just like the journey in the triangle of truth.



And remember Jesus very words recorded by the Essenes

 

Quote:

Jesus from the Sevenfold Peace of the Essene papers.

Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths
Of the Infinite Garden
and
The paths are seven
Through the Infinite Garden



The Essenes where influenced to a degree by Egyptian religious ideas.

and

 

Quote:

Isaiah 62:10
Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up an ensign for the peoples.



or you could view the Sun Disk looking down at the circular disk hi crown which represents the birdmans head with arms outstretched before the Scenario of the final reality and another 3d view like signposts in front of the gate bit. Looking from the top position the gate would be where his mouth is. From where the word comes from.

Have another look at the sun disk from that prospective.



I also want to say that there appears to be 35 feathers on each wings/wall which amounts to 70 feathers. Seems familiar 70, the number 70?? again another 7 but in the multiple of 10.

From what I see is 4 fingers on one hand and possibly 3 or 4 fingers on other a 7/8 or perhaps could mean the years that this journey is realized 07/08 as in the Scenario before the gates Maybe??


If each feather represents a year then this year less 70 years is 1948 creation of Israel. Interesting!

Consider that this could the birth of the spiritual Israel in realisation more so than the physical level beyond races and borders.

And the walls leads to the gate which leads to the city of eternity.

a clearer view



Sevens
 


Icon 1 posted 04-11-2008 10:19 AM


and this

Here is a clearer view of the symbols before the gate

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/SunDisk137.jpg

Note the symbols and what they mean.

http://www.egyptartsite.com/symlst.html

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Shen

A loop of rope that has no beginning and no end, it symbolized eternity. The sun disk is often depicted in the center of it. The shen also seems to be a symbol of protection. It is often seen being clutched by deities in bird form, Horus the falcon, Mut the vulture. Hovering over Pharaohs head with their wings outstretched in a gesture of protection. The word shen comes from the word "shenu" which means "encircle," and in its elongated form became the cartouche which surrounded the king's name.

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Shenu

More commonly know as a cartouche. The shape represents a loop of rope in which a name is written. A protector of that name

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Ankh

Symbol of eternal life. The gods are often seen holding an ankh to someone's lips this is considered to be an offering of "The Breath of Life". The breath you will need in the afterlife.


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Pet

This symbol depicts the sky as a ceiling which drops at the ends, the same way the real sky seems to reach for the horizon. This sign was often used in architectural motifs; the top of walls, and door frames. It symbolizes the heavens.

and now note the 3 co planar circles

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And who is it related to

Ra

The sun was the primary element of life in ancient Egypt, we find this importance reflected in the art and religion. Some of the most popular gods had a solar connection. The sun was first worshipped as Horus, then as Ra and later as Amun-Ra There are many other representations of the sun, including Khepri, the great scarab who symbolizes morning and the ram-headed god Khnum representing evening. During the reign of Akhenaten, the sun was worshipped as the Aten. A form of the sun disk with its rays depicted as arms holding ankh signs. Another common form that the sun takes is that of Horus Behudety, the winged sun disk flanked by uraeus.

and

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Maat

Represents truth, justice, morality and balance. Deities are often seen standing on this symbol, as if standing on a foundation of Maat.

This is the closets I could come to a triangle

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Primordial Hill

The Egyptians believed that during creation this hill rose out of the sea of chaos to create dry land. The idea of this hill rising had a profound effect on the egyptians, being used as every thing from temple layouts to the possible inspiration behind the pyramids.

Might have great message

Whats even more outstanding The two batches of symbols in front of the gates are submerged underwater.

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She

A pool of water. The Egyptians portrayed bodies of water by means of equally spaced vertical wave lines. When these lines are inclosed by a rectangle it denotes a lake or pool. The Egyptians believed water was the primeval matter from which aII creation began. Life in Egypt's desert climate depended on water, and a pool of water would be a great luxury. There are many tomb paintings that show the deceased drinking from a pool in the afterlife.

http://www.egyptartsite.com/sym.html

here is another symbol



Sevens
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