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Tornados in the USA? sounds like a concentration of events.
Brig! Its not worth it
Its a real waste of time speaking with you.
I raised 2 points regarding the era and the time relating to the roofless circle
temples and the scientific view on the age of Cardiz and no one even tried to
discuss it. So therefore, I feel Cardiz as
atlantis is flawed!
seven
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/ps091.htm
posted
05-12-2008 04:12 AM
I just found this browsing the Seventh
Mystery on the web.
I think below chapter is a complete description of the Journey to the ancient
places. I believe it related to this journey.
I just found this.
I am amazed and I think its an excellent confirmation.
quote:
PISTIS SOPHIA
tr. by G.R.S. Mead
[1921]
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/ps091.htm
This is G.R.S. Mead's translation of the Pistis Sophia, the most extensive Gnostic scripture available until the discovery of Nag Hammadi texts in 1945.
Any way I found this fragment from a
Seventh Mystery keyword search.
quote:
CHAPTER 86
And Jesus answered and said unto Mary: "Finely indeed dost thou question concerning all with precision and certainty. But hearken, Mary, that I may speak with thee about the consummation of the æon and the ascension of the universe. It will not yet take place; but I have said unto you: 'If I lead you into the region of the inheritances of those who shall receive the mystery of the Light, |189. then will the Treasury of the Light, the region of the emanations, count for you as a speck of dust only and as the light of the sun by day.'
"I have therefore said: 'This will take place
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Of the twelve saviours and their regions in the Inheritance.at the time of the consummation [and] of the ascension of the universe.' The twelve saviours of the Treasury and the twelve orders of every one of them, which are the emanations of the seven Voices and of the five Trees, they will be with me in the region of the inheritances of the Light; being kings with me in my kingdom, and every one of them being king over his emanations, and moreover every one of them being king according to his glory, the great according to his greatness and the little according to his littleness.
"And the saviour of the emanations of the first Voice will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the first mystery of the First Mystery in my kingdom.
"And the saviour of the emanations of the second Voice will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the second mystery of the First Mystery.
"In like manner also will the saviour of the emanations of the third Voice be in the region of the souls of those who have received the third mystery of the First Mystery in the E inheritances of the Light.
"And the saviour of the emanations of the fourth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the fourth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
"And the fifth saviour of the fifth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the fifth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
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"And the sixth saviour of the emanations of the sixth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the sixth mystery of the First Mystery.
"And the seventh saviour of the emanations of the seventh Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the seventh mystery of the First Mystery in the Treasury [sic] of the Light.
"And the eighth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the first Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the I eighth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
"And the ninth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the second Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the ninth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
"And the tenth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the third Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the tenth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
"In like manner also the eleventh saviour, that is the saviour of the fourth Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the eleventh mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
"And the twelfth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the fifth Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the twelfth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
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Of the ascension of those of the Treasury into the Inheritance." And the seven |192. Amēns and the five Trees and the three Amēns will be on my right, being kings in the inheritances of the Light. And the Twin-saviours, that is the Child of the Child, and the nine guards will bide also at my left, being kings in the inheritances of the Light.
"And the nine guards of the Treasury of the Light will be superior to the saviours in the inheritances of the Light. Of their respective ranks in the kingdom."And every one of the saviours will rule over the orders of his emanations in the inheritances of the Light as they did also in the Treasury of the Light.
"And the nine guards of the Treasury of the Light will be superior to the saviours in the inheritances of the Light. And the Twin-saviours will be superior to the nine guards in the kingdom. And the three Amēns will be superior to the Twin-saviours in the kingdom. And the five Trees will be superior to the three Amēns in the inheritances of the Light.
Of the powers of the Right, and their emanation and ascension ."And Yew and the guard of the veil of the Great Light, and the receiver of Light and the two great guides and the great Sabaōth, the Good, will be kings in the first saviour of the first Voice of the Treasury of the Light, [the saviour] who will be in |193. the region of those who have received the first mystery of the First Mystery. For in sooth Yew and the guard of the region of those of the Right and Melchisedec, the great receiver of the Light, and the two great guides have come forth out of the purified and utterly pure light of the first Tree up to the fifth.
"Yew in sooth is the overseer of the Light, who hath come forth first out of the pure light of the first Tree; on the other hand the guard of the veil of those of the Right hath come forth out of the second Tree; and the two guides again
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have come forth out of the pure and utterly purified light of the third and fourth Trees of the Treasury of the Light; Melchisedec again hath come forth out of the fifth Tree ; on the other hand Sabaōth, the Good, whom I have called my father, hath come forth out of Yew, the overseer of the Light.
Of the powers of the Midst and their ascension ."And the Virgin of Light and the great guide of the Midst, whom the rulers of the æons are wont to call the Great Yew after the name of a great ruler who is in their region ,--he and the Virgin of Light and his twelve ministers, from whom ye have received your shape and from whom ye have received the power, they all will be kings with the first saviour of the first Voice in the region of the souls of those who will receive the first mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.
"And the fifteen helpers of the seven virgins of the Light who are in the Midst, they will expand themselves in the regions of the twelve saviours,
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and the rest of the angels of the Midst, every one of them according to his glory, will rule with me in the inheritances of the Light. And I shall rule over them all in the inheritances of the Light.
But this shall not take place till the consummation of the æon ."All this then which I have said unto you, will not take place at this time, but it will take place at the consummation of the æon, that is at the ascension of the universe; that is at the dissolution of the universe and at the total ascension of the numbering |195. of the perfect souls of the inheritances of the Light.
"Before the consummation, therefore, this which I have said unto you, will not take place, but every one will be in his own region, into which he hath been set from the beginning, until the numbering of the ingathering of the perfect souls is completed.
"The seven Voices and the five Trees and the three Amēns and the Twin-saviours and the nine guards and the twelve saviours and those of the region of the Right and those of the region of the Midst, [/B] , until the numbering of the [B]perfect souls of the inheritances of the Light shall be raised up all together.
"And also all the rulers who have repented, they also will abide in the region into which they have been set, until the numbering of the souls of the Light shall be raised up all together.
Of the ascension of the souls of the perfect."[The souls] will all come, every one at the time when he will receive the mysteries; and all the rulers who have repented, will pass through and come into the region of the Midst. seals of their mysteries. And they will pass through those of all the regions of the Midst, and they will pass through the region of the Right and the interior of the region of the nine guards and the interior of the region of the Twin-saviours and the interior of the region of the And those of the Midst will baptize them and give unto them the spiritual unction and seal them with the
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three |196. Amens and of the twelve saviours and the interior of the five Trees and of the seven Voices. Every one giveth unto them his seal of his mystery, and they pass into the interior of them all and go to the region of the inheritances of the Light; and every one bideth in the region up to which he hath received mysteries in the inheritances of the Light.
Of the rank of the souls of the perfect."In a word, all the souls of men who shall receive the mysteries of the Light, will precede all the rulers who have repented, and they will precede all those of the region of the Midst and those of the whole region of the Right, and they will precede those of the whole region of the Treasury of the Light. In a word, they will precede all those of the region [of the Treasury], and they will precede all those of the regions of the first Commandment, and they will pass into the interior of them all and go into the Inheritance of the Light up to the region of their mystery; and every one abideth in the region up to which he hath received mysteries. And those of the region of the Midst and of the Right and those of the whole region of the Treasury, every one abideth in the region of the order into which he hath been set from the beginning on, until the universe shall be raised up. And every one of them accomplisheth his economy to which he hath been set, in respect of the ingathering of the souls who
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have received the mysteries, in respect of this economy, so that they may seal |197. all the souls who will receive the mysteries and who will pass through their interior towards the Inheritance of the Light.
"Now, therefore, Mary, this is the word concerning which thou dost question me with precision and certainty. For the rest now then, who hath ears to hear, let him hear."
Incredible find I am so impressed and
everything seem reflected. Its all about this journey.
However, it seems quite different to the Bible but there may be many clues to
the end times in this book. I thought chapter 86 was totally interesting and
relevant to this journey.
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ps.pdf
PISTIS SOPHIA
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/index.htm
Here are some more fragments in the book looking at the keyword mysteries.
quote:
"For this cause therefore, have I said unto you aforetime: 'He who doth not abandon
father and mother and come and follow after me, is not worthy of me.' I have, therefore,
said at that time : Ye are to abandon your parents the rulers, that I may make you sons of the First Mystery for ever."
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistis_Sophia
quote:
Pistis Sophia includes quotes from five of the Odes of Solomon, found in chapters between 58 and 71. Pistis Sophia was the only known source for the actual wording of any of the Odes until the discovery of a nearly-complete Syriac text of the Odes in 1909. Because the first part of this text is missing, Pistis Sophia is still the only source for Ode 1.
There are 727 occurrences of the word "Mystery"
Sevens
posted
05-12-2008 05:12
Another interesting fragment.
quote:
"And he who shall receive in sequence the twelfth mystery of the First Mystery , that is the master-mystery concerning which I discourse with you,--|236. and he who, therefore, shall receive those twelve mysteries which belong to the First Mystery, if he goeth forth out of the world, will pass through all the regions of the rulers and all the regions of the , being a great light-stream, and he will moreover rule over all the regions of the twelve saviours; but they will not be able to be like unto those who receive the one and only mystery of the Ineffable . But he who shall receive those mysteries will abide in those orders, because they are exalted, and he will abide in the orders of the twelve saviours."
and another piece
quote:
CHAPTER 71
It came to pass then, when the First Mystery had finished saying these words, that
Matthew came forward and said: "I have understood the solution of the song which Pistis
Sophia hath uttered. Now, therefore, give commandment unto me, that I speak it in
openness."
And the First Mystery answered and said: "I give commandment unto thee, Matthew, to
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set forth the interpretation of the song which Pistis Sophia hath uttered."
And Matthew answered and said: "Concerning the interpretation of the song which Pistis
Sophia hath uttered, thus thy light-power prophesied aforetime thereon through the Ode
Matthew interpreteth the song of Sophia from the Odes of Solomon. " '1. He who hath led me down
"'2. Who hath there taken those in the midst, he hath taught me concerning them.
"'3. Who hath scattered my foes and my adversaries, he hath bestowed power on me over
the bonds, to unloose them.
"'4. Who hath smitten the serpent with the seven heads with my hands, he hath set me up
above its root, that I may extinguish its seed.
"'5. And thou wert with me, helping me; in all regions thy name surrounded me.
"'6. Thy right hand hath destroyed the venom of the slanderer; thy hand hath cleared the
way for thy faithful.
"'7. Thou hast freed them out of the tombs and hast removed them from the midst of the
corpses.
"'8. Thou hast taken dead bones and hast clothed them with a body and to them who
stirred not, hast thou given the activity of life.
"'9. Thy way is become indestructibleness and thy face [also].
"'10. Thou hast led thy æon above decay, so that they all may be loosed and renewed and
thy light become a foundation for them all.
"'11. Thou hast piled thy riches upon them and they have become a holy dwelling-place.'
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"This then, my Lord, is the solution of the song which Pistis Sophia hath uttered.
"The word which thy power hath spoken through Solomon: 'Who hath led me down out
of the higher regions which are above, he hath also led me up out of the regions which
are in the bottom below,'--it is the |157. word which Pistis Sophia hath spoken: 'I sing
praises unto thee; through thy commandment hast thou led me down out of this higher
æon which is above, and hast led me to the regions below. And again through thy
commandment thou hast saved me and led me up out of the regions which are below.'
"And moreover the word which thy power hath spoken through Solomon: 'Who hath
scattered my foes and my adversaries,'--it is the word which Pistis Sophia hath spoken:
'Thou hast scattered far from me all the emanations of Self-willed which constrained me
and were hostile to me.'
Interesting about the identification
of the Odes of Solomon in the path of this journey and how the whole of the Odes
of Solomon is a reflection of this journey in my view as previously mentioned
and then to find the above Solomon and his relevance to the First Mystery which
would be about the first City Dalamatia City, the City of the First Epoch.
sevens
posted
05-12-2008 05:43 AM
And here is Chapter 98 of Jesus
explaining the mysteries which in my reflects the journey to the ancient places.
quote:
CHAPTER 98
Mary again questioneth Jesus. It came to pass, when Jesus had finished speaking these words
unto his disciples, that Mary Magdalene came forward, kissed the feet of Jesus and said
unto him: "My Lord, bear with me and be not wroth with me, if I question thee; but have
mercy upon us, my Lord, and reveal unto us all things on which we shall question thee.
Now, therefore, my Lord, how doth the First Mystery possess twelve mysteries, [and] the
Ineffable possess a one and only mystery?"
Of the three mysteries and five mysteries. Jesus answered and said unto her: "Indeed it
possesseth a one and only mystery, yet that mystery constituteth three mysteries, although
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it is the one and only mystery; but the type of every one of them is different. And
moreover it constituteth five mysteries, although it is a one and only [one]; but the type of
every one is different.
So that these five mysteries are alike with one another in the mystery |237. of the kingdom in the inheritances of the Light; but the type of each of them is different.
And their kingdom is higher and more exalted than the whole kingdom of the twelve mysteries together of the First Mystery; but they are not alike in the kingdom [with the one and only mystery] of the First Mystery in the Light-kingdom.
"In like manner also the three mysteries are not [?] alike in the Light-kingdom; but the type of every one of them is different. And they themselves also are not alike in the
kingdom with the one and only mystery of the First Mystery in the Light-kingdom; and
the type of every one of the three of them, and the type of the configuration of each of
them, is different from one another.
Of the first mystery. "The first [mystery of the First Mystery],--if thou accomplishest its
mystery altogether and standest and accomplishest it finely in all its figures, then dost
thou come straightway out of thy body, become a great light-stream and pass through all
the regions of the rulers and all the regions of the Light, while all are in fear of that soul,
until it cometh to the region of its kingdom.
Of the second mystery. "The second mystery of the First Mystery, on the other hand,--|238. if
thou accomplishest it finely in all its figures,--the man, therefore, who shall accomplish
its mystery, if he speaketh that
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mystery over the head of any man who goeth forth out of the body, and he speaketh it into his two ears, if indeed the man who goeth forth out of the body hath received mysteries for the second time and is sharing in the word of truth,--amēn, I say unto you: That man, if he goeth forth out of the body of matter, then will his soul become a great light-stream "But if that man hath received no mysteries and is not sharing in the words of truth, -- if he who accomplisheth that mystery, speaketh that mystery over the head of a man who cometh forth out of the body and who hath received no mysteries of the Light, and shareth not in the words of truth,--amēn,
I say unto you: That man, if he cometh forth out of the body, will be judged in no region of the rulers, nor can he be chastized in any region at all, nor will the fire touch him, because of the
great mystery of the Ineffable which is with him.
"And they will hasten quickly and hand him over one to another in turn and lead him from region to region and |239. from order to order, until they bring him before the Virgin of Light,
"And if they bring him before the Virgin of Light, then the Virgin of Light will see the
sign of the mystery of the kingdom of the Ineffable which is with him; the Virgin of
Light marvelleth and proveth him, but suffereth them not to bring him to the Light, until he accomplisheth the total
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citizenship of the light of that mystery, that is the purities of the renunciation of the world
and also of the total matter therein. "The Virgin of Light sealeth him with a higher seal, which is this [ . . .? ], and letteth him in that month in which he hath come out of the body of matter, light down into a body which will be righteous and find the godhead in truth and the higher mysteries, so that he may inherit them and inherit the Light eternal, which is the gift of the second mystery of the First Mystery of the Ineffable.
Of the third mystery. "The third mystery of that Ineffable on the other hand,--the man indeed
who shall accomplish that mystery, not only if he [himself] cometh forth out of the body, will he inherit the kingdom of the mystery, but if he complete that mystery and accomplish it with |240. all its figures, that is if he go through with that mystery and accomplish it finely and pronounce the name of that mystery Of its efficacy. over a man who cometh forth out of the body and hath known that mystery,--let the former have delayed
or rather not have delayed,--one who is in the dire chastisements of the rulers and in their
dire judgments and their manifold fires,--amēn, I say unto you: The man who hath come forth out of the body,--if the name of this mystery is pronounced on his behalf, they will hasten quickly to bring him over and hand him over one to another, until they bring him before the Virgin of Light. And the Virgin of Light will seal him with a higher. seal, which is this [ . . .?], and in that month will she let him light down into the righteous body which will find the godhead in truth and the higher mystery, so that
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he inherit the Light-kingdom. This, therefore, is the gift of the third mystery of the Ineffable.
There is more here is the link.
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ps.pdf
That was fascinating and I am convinced its about this journey to the ancient
places and all the locations of the ages and the mysteries that surround
location.
This journey has the right construct that fulfills the above.
Sevens
posted
05-12-2008 06:00 AM
Another fragment
quote:
Of the mysteries of the three spaces "He on the other hand who receiveth the one and only
mystery of the Ineffable, will inherit the region of the whole kingdom according to its
whole glory, as I have already told you at another time. And every one who shall receive
the mystery which is in the space of the universe of the Ineffable, and all the other
mysteries which are united in the Limbs of the Ineffable, concerning which I have not yet
spoken unto you, and concerning their expansion and the manner of their setting-up and
the type of every one, how it is and wherefor it is named the Ineffable or wherefor it
standeth expanded with all its
There is more here in the link.
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ps.pdf
and this
quote:
CHAPTER 135
Mary answered and said unto the Saviour: "My Lord, before thou didst come to the region of the rulers and before thou didst come down into the world, hath no soul entered into the Light?"
No soul had entered into the Light before the coming of the First Mystery. The Saviour answered and said unto Mary: "Amēn, amēn, I say unto you Before I did come into the world, no soul hath entered into the Light. And now, therefore, when I am come, I have opened the gates of the Light and opened the ways which lead to the Light. And now, therefore, let him who shall do what is worthy of the mysteries, receive the mysteries and enter into the Light."
and this
quote:
Of the prophets. The Saviour continued and said unto Mary: "Amēn, amēn, I say unto you: No prophet hath entered into the Light; but the rulers of the æons have discoursed with them out of the æons and given them the mystery of the æons. And when I came to the regions of the æons, I have turned Elias and sent him into the body of John the Baptizer, and the rest also I turned into righteous bodies, which will find the mysteries |356. of the Light, go on high and inherit the Light-kingdom.
Incredible find and all
consistant
another
quote:
Of the functions of Zeus, the chief regent. "And moreover he perceived that they needed a helm to steer the world and the æons of the sphere, so that they might not wreck it [the world] in their wickedness. He went into the Midst, drew forth a power out of the little Sabaōth , the Good, him of the Midst, and bound it to Zeus, because he is a good [regent], so that he may steer them in his goodness. And he set thus established the circling of his order, |362. that he should spend thirteen [? three] months in every æon
Is this fragment of the above a
reflection to Sevens maybe, in this journey to the ancient places, the little
Sevens or little Saboath.
However Sabaoth means
Hosts.
The Lord of Sabaoth was a title of Jehovah; the hosts were the armies of Israel.
And Sabboth is a Seven.
And note: " And he set thus established the circling of his order" The symbol
that connect all the places are the co planar circles and the triangle/circle
symbol and the Melchizedek symbol, the concentric circles are attached. Its a
match.
quote:
He went into the Midst, drew forth a power out of the little Sabaōth , the Good, him of the Midst, and bound it to Zeus, because he is a good [regent],
and this reflects the time period
generally between the discovery of each place in the mystery of the former ages
and Epochs, every place is a mystery unto itself in the great mystery. Each
place is different but yet linked to each other in symbolism.
All makes sense the whole book regarding the last mystery.
Sabaoth linked to Seven
http://sinai.critter.net/entry.cgi?edit=293
quote:
In the legend of the Sabaoth Seven, a young Sabaoth quested in the Nether Realms in order to prove himself, and faced seven demons, each of whom was a combination of Eeee and some dumb beast indigenous to the lands of Ashdod.
Im sure
Saboath in this case of the
journey to the ancient places points to Sevens.
http://www.angelsuniverse.com/elohimscholars.htm
quote:
Just as the "Lord God of Sabaoth" would stand for the "Lord God of the Seven" ( Sabaoth means "seven" ); and as Adonai was also used to designate the whole ...
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3693693
http://www.preceptaustin.org/jehovah_sabaoth_-_lord_of_hosts.htm
sevens
posted
05-12-2008 04:16 PM
Well I dont know if any one spends the
time to research this thread of truth.
But I feel the mystery is coming to an very interesting junction as I am finding
great confirmation in the journey.
Everyone has to make up there mind I but in the above posts was just a quick
glance at the scripture but what I have found contains everything and confirms
all the various posts and what was written in the beforehand using the fragments
of the books in parallel to the journey to the first places.
There is no other thing like this journey on the planet and a journey like this
cannot be replicated or created by man.
It is very important that we go and verify Dalamatia City ASAP and all rulers be
it government or religion should be aware and come on the journey! and test out
the truth of the matter plus I think the journey would be revitalizing and very
exciting and should uplift man and bring about brotherhood.
But it has to go through verification.
The above information confirming this journey would have to be one of the biggest confirmations and just imagine this mystery was hidden in the sands of Egypt until now with understanding being on the actual journey of the Seventh Mystery. Self realizing on the run through discovery in the moment and broadcast worldwide through the net.
Me personally, I praise the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise for leading me on this great journey.
If you average the 5 places where Discovery of Atlantis began in 2003 with the book when a year later it was Discovered to now. Its is close to 5 years where and close to an average of 13 months. Equally spaced, equally spaced in the discovery has occurred to me before and I even have diagram of the equally spaced discoveries.
Even some of those texts in the image
I used while building the image is found in the above book. However my last
input to the image was last October where I did have some expectation but I can
see now there was more to discover.
Incredible find! Im sure we are in the last days of the Seventh Mystery!
Sevens
posted
05-13-2008 03:18 AM
I reckon the light wave is the truth or the
stream of truth.
I am to puzzled by the repetitiveness to, the mystery was probably very
important including consummation.
Well the only mystery I can think of is about all the ancient places and each
place has its own truth which in a way is like a mystery in the story...I
suppose! But there is the Master mystery which encompasses all of the mysteries
which are connected to each other in truth and seen in the symbols. They would
have to form a oneness in truth and in verification.
Unless there is more to reveal! I think the Seventh mystery points to the lost
cities and the journey where there is a mystery of being seen in beforehand and
documented and found written in the books at a later time down the track.
This occurred again in finding this book.
Its the Father setting up for total and complete success in the journey. He is
setting us up through a mystery of the journey by him leading us through the
books and documenting, it only to find it written about in a book never seen
before.
I think its the most positive and loving set up ever!
see what happens eh! but I do have all faith!
I reckon the Seventh mystery has to be revelatory and would have reveal all that
is hidden which does in this case of the ancient cities in ancient times past.
Sevens
posted
05-13-2008 03:46 AM
Hey Wireless
I was looking at this fragment
quote:
Of the functions of Zeus, the chief regent. "And moreover he perceived that they needed a helm to steer the world and the æons of the sphere, so that they might not wreck it [the world] in their wickedness. He went into the Midst, drew forth a power out of the little Sabaoth , the Good, him of the Midst, and bound it to Zeus, because he is a good [regent], so that he may steer them in his goodness. And he set thus established the circling of his order, |362. that he should spend thirteen [? three] months in every æon.
I had to have laugh at this one
quote:
needed a helm to steer the world and the æons of the sphere, so that they might not wreck it [the world] in their wickedness.
so that they might not wreck it the planet I reckon. Well that's so true because we are on the verge of simply wrecking this planet!
I must say I have had flashes on the image of Jesus pointing the way to the helmsman.
I even used the image in metaphor of this journey
in a letter to the Catholic church only to find it mentioned in the
PISTIS SOPHIA just found. When I read that I immediately thought of the
image.
Sevens
Hey Wireless
I was looking at this fragment
quote:
Of the functions of Zeus, the chief regent. "And moreover he perceived that they needed a helm to steer the world and the æons of the sphere, so that they might not wreck it [the world] in their wickedness. He went into the Midst, drew forth a power out of the little Sabaoth , the Good, him of the Midst, and bound it to Zeus, because he is a good [regent], so that he may steer them in his goodness. And he set thus established the circling of his order, |362. that he should spend thirteen [? three] months in every æon.
I had to have laugh at this one
quote:
needed a helm to steer the world and the æons of the sphere, so that they might not wreck it [the world] in their wickedness.
so that they might not wreck it
the planet I reckon. Well thats so true because we are on the verge of simply
wrecking this planet!
"needed a helm to steer the world and the
æons of the sphere" I even used
the image in metaphor of this journey in a letter to the Catholic church only to
find it mentioned in the PISTIS SOPHIA just found. When I read that I
immediately thought of the image.
""And moreover he perceived that they needed a helm to steer the world and the
æons of the sphere," I believe this to be the case in that the whole Aeon is
behind this journey to the places!
It was a good thing to document everything on the run as a living record in a
living journey. It was the right thing to do, to bound it to the Father in
heaven and honoring the Father, Jesus and the whole crew during the journey and
to reflect the teamwork where we all have our role in the path. This path I
believe was the right path for the journey to the great mystery and it came
forth naturally.
Sevens
posted
05-13-2008 05:03 AM
Yeah why cant Atlantis be on Mars
ahahaha Give one good reason why not eh!
Also Georgeous hasn't proven a single except that his finds belong to known
history and Stonehenge and including the stone anomalies in Southern Spain and
Spain is reflective of the latter stone age culture, the circular temples and
stone monuments being areas of Moon or Sun worship.
Really speaking its all about religion.
Prove me wrong on this point!
Im really happy of Georgeous as he is proving this but I dont agree with his
notions of Spain as Atlantis.
About 1stEden, there has been 2 expeditions and the stone wall as written about
has been located and verified. Mind you the source information was the Urantia
Book everything associated came later. All we have to do is prove the anomalies
as seen in the first expedition and the 3 co planar circles as best as possible
and that will mean a third expedition.
Dalamatia City also comes from the Urantia Book and we have to go there and
verify it.
Lets go out there and prove the city as seen in worldwind.
If I prove Dalamatia City through an expedition then The Urantia Book is an
authentic document with facts that can be proven as we have done already and
will continue to do so.
by the way I have ask if Georgeous
could post one image and never does. Even one image on Jean and the anomalies
and never.
What's wrong with that eh! what's your excuse for that.
he mustn't have any.
sevens
posted
05-13-2008 05:52 AM
I feel that the following fragment
from the PISTIS SOPHIA is a direct reference to Dalamatia, the first City. Where
the first default occured by a majority of the Sons of God and
indentifying the
Seventh Mystery.
quote:
"And that mystery knoweth wherefor the first Commandment hath rent itself asunder and wherefor it hath divided itself into the seven mysteries and wherefor it is named the first Commandment and wherefor it hath come forth from the Fatherless.
I believe this is the fragment
pointing to Dalamatia City "And that mystery
knoweth
wherefor the first
Commandment hath rent itself asunder"
From that time forth the Seventh Mystery was created following the path to
various coties along the journey guided by a new book from
Heaven."wherefor
it hath divided itself into the seven mysteries"
I believe that the Seventh Mystery is this: "wherefor it is named the first
Commandment and wherefor it hath come forth from the Fatherless" Essentially
its the journey identifying where the first city is and where the first default
occurred and from there we follow the path of the Seventh mystery to the other
cites including there story.
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ps.pdf
and
quote:
"'13. And his soul will abide in the regions of the Light and his power will inherit |79. the Treasury of the Light.
"'14. The Light giveth power to them who
p. 66
have faith in it; and the name of its mystery belongeth to those who trust in it. And it will
show them the region of the Inheritance, which is in the Treasury of the Light.
the above reflects the process of the journey.
I tend to respond when I see The beginning and the end.
quote:
It came to pass then, when Jesus had heard his. mother Mary say these words, that he said unto her: "Well said, finely. Amēn, amēn, I say unto thee: They shall proclaim thee blessed from one end of the earth to the other; for the pledge of the First Mystery hath taken up its abode with thee, and through that pledge shall all from the earth and all from the height be saved, and that pledge is the beginning and the end."
There was a big message in that. The places I believe are the beginning and the end.
and this again from the Beginning, the first places totally matches this scenario.
and with another reference to the
mystery from the beginning again another verification towards the city.
quote:
CHAPTER 60
The commandment of the First Mystery is fulfilled for taking Sophia entirely out of the chaos. And Jesus
continued again in the discourse and said unto his disciples: "It came to pass when Pistis
Sophia had uttered the thirteenth repentance,--in that hour was fulfilled the
commandment of all the tribulations which were de-creed for Pistis Sophia for the fulfilment of the First Mystery, which was from the beginning,
and the time had come to save her out of the chaos and lead her out from all the darknesses. For her repentance was accepted from her through the First Mystery; and that mystery sent me a great lightpower out of the height, that I might help Pistis Sophia |118. and lead her up out of the chaos. The First Mystery and Jesus sent forth two light-powers to help Sophia.
So I looked towards the æons into the height and saw that light-power which the First Mystery had sent me, that I might save Pistis Sophia out of the chaos. It came to pass, therefore, when I had seen it, coming forth from the æons and hastening down to me,--I was above
again reflections
Sevens
posted
05-13-2008 02:26 PM
At the end of the day we all have our
experience in what we see.
In my journey and experience I see a mystery spread over the books.
One way to find is to go to the cities. If its there and harmonizes then it must
be true, the city and the journey
Let the proof, if its there speak for itself.
That's all I say this in light of all thoughts and ideas.
Lets just prove the bloody matter rather than just ideas and thoughts. Whilst we
have thoughts we still have to prove the matter until then its theory and talk
and that includes your ideas to.
Prove it and prove there is no mystery and proof so that a simple guy on the
street can understand. There is no answer if no one understands in simple terms
like you read and see.
I mean this book talks about mystery and you deny it, I mean come on man. There
talking about some mystery, well what is the mystery without denial or using
something that is beyond mans understanding and comprehension. It means nothing
to man if he cant understand any mystery let alone a theory.
Wireless I would rate you the top 5% in intelligence of the world but that means
the 95% wont understand you.
Im quite happy for anyone to prove my research wrong so I say this, lets just
simply go to the location of Dalamatia City and just prove it.
Its either wrong or right! one or the other!
Its just as simple as this. Dalamatia City and all the information in the
Urantia Book and cross check with what's there.
That's it, simple, so a simple man can see it and understand a simple construct.
By the way, Ive been wrong about a few
things and been quite willing to alter a thought or perception.
No one is beyond being in error and if mans denies that, then he is simply pride
filled and is setting himself up before a fall. Even worse is when intelligent
man runs from the simple facts.
Gee even the greatest scientists of
the world know and say that there ideas are still in theory form and has yet to
proven in completion. There still searching and attempting to demonstrate the
truth of there theories. Which is fine but they even admit they are wrong when
they see it in light of data and experiment.
What really surprises me that you say I am never wrong. What sort of comment is
that when I know that we can all be wrong and simple man admits that to. How can
anyone learn if they think they are right all the time and yet have not
demonstrated that in the evidence.
sevens
posted
05-13-2008 03:13 PM
Georgeous
I went your link, thank you and had a look at jean
http://files.myopera.com/Georgeos-Diaz-Montexano/albums/45515/2007-04-10_071124.jpg
The above image is Photoshop and doesn't mean to much to me.
I was hoping for something like this, something real.
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/persian_gulf/dalamatia1_thumb.jpg
I was hoping for some actual pictures
of the site and the rings you are speaking about.
Anyway, what I say is that you may have found evidence of a latter stone age
period that existed in Spain and Southern France and the anomalies you have
claimed to have discovered, claiming Atlantis is really reflective of this
latter stone age in Spain at the time in the circles.
Plus the timeline of Atlantis that you are working on I believe is wrong as the
land of Gods go back much further to the first places.
What Im saying, by me asserting this provides the opportunity for you to prove
me wrong because until Im proven wrong on this point I must be right and if your
theory is to be unbreakable it will have to go through this test of truth.
You will have to prove that I am wrong until then your theory is breakable.
Until then all your doing is proving The Urantia Book in its information about
this time period. So in actual fact its your theory against the thoughts of the
Universal Government! Prove the Universal Government wrong.
Im sure they invite you to do so because one day you will be doing a public
presentation on this and someone from the audience will present this point to
you and what are you going to say! How are you going to overcome this with
satisfaction in the reply and in the evidence.
Also another point is that scientist say that Cardiz was inhabited around from
900BC according to the soil strata. From what I read your timeline is 1350BC
around that time. Cardiz wasn't around and the evidence seems to suggest that
when Cardiz was created it was only a outpost until it evolved into a city, like
all cities of this planet.
Then you say, I have manmade evidence of the coast under 41 meters deep which
reflects a time to around 9000 years ago which is around the middle/latter stone
age period. If there is manmade anomalies it would seem to suggest an earlier
culture and it would have to road signs saying Atlantis because until that can
be established its just another latter stone age city victim of sea level rise.
There is already documented script, oldest script in the world that come from
Dilmun near the Persian heads that predates any evidence that you can come up
with and with common symbols to that of today. Plus that time and age is fully
documented by the Urantia book that pieces all this together as found in the
evidence already.
All things you have to overcome using the scientific method proving the theory
to establish Cardiz as Atlantis.
Hey Mike1234 all Ive got to say to you is
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
sevens
posted
05-13-2008 03:52 PMAnyway
man was around before a computer which is only an application and not the source
truth.
Oh hail computer, glory to the
computer ahahahahahahahahahahahahah
sevens
posted
05-13-2008 05:18 PM
Anyway wireless, I see great beauty in Binary code and its reflected in the design of Nature itself and considering that our world (species) is of the decimal construct which makes binary very close in our basic design. But who created binary code as seen in Nature, that's who Im interested in, the programmer, the creator of such complex over layering systems using the simple binary code.
Aren't we only discovering and
recreating what has already been established in design and in awe of it.
In this application aren't we really mirroring the creativity of the creator
through Binary as we write code in any event but then I say what is motive in
our pursuits, what is the truth and purpose of the programmer?? That is the
question? as based upon the spiritual standards of the almighty programmer??
Sevens
posted
05-14-2008 04:16 PM
No problem
Oh well that's the way it goes, a front we both face despite our views.
But I believe I have something that could change their minds but it would have
to be verified through an expedition to see if the worldwind software images of
the triangle city exists. If verified that would involve the Urantia Book and no
scientist could run way from that.
Maybe the focus should be which Atlantis presentation after full testing can
change the minds of a scientist who does not believe that an Atlantis existed.
If that could be proven in the beforehand with a record and be then verified
that would prove the case.
Something like that would better than debating who has the right Atlantis!
Like a contest in proving to the atheist and which presentation can be verified
to the fullest degree.
The best presentation wins if that could be achieved.
Sevens
Re:
Hezbollah sparks a war in Lebannon Thu May 15, 2008 11:18 am
posted
05-15-2008 01:30 PM
Hey Mike1234
ahahah
I think those pics was fascinating,
Also Plato did use another language, different to the original language
apparently/maybe Atlantis was called something else?? A different word.
Anyway, all Im doing is going by
is what a book says of which speaks of a circular courtyard that contained the
tree of life in the middle of the city.
I believe I have found the location of the first city where the Book refers to
and where it gives you directions. The city has circular looking formations in
the middle of the city where the books says it exists. By the books description
of the city you can deduce its a triangle city, and that it lays near the
Persian heads.
I figure that Atlantis was the land of the Gods and refers to immortality.
Nothing different to this city so by that description I figure Dalamatia City is
the the Atlantis, the first and original.
All Im going by is through the UB and through other reflections I feel exist in
other books.
Really speaking Im just testing this
book in its words and I think Im coming up with real results, Fair dinkum! no
worries mate! kick goals! ahahaha
All it needs now is verification.
Really speaking Im just testing this book in its
words and I think Im coming up with real results.
I think those pics were nice, where do they come from..Greece? and through what
period? Where they circular roofless temples ahaha or just homes?
I suppose in those days every place had its
little temple to work out the seasons associated with the Gods.
All the best Mike 1234 ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sevens
posted
05-15-2008 02:08 PM
Mind you Mike1234
If we lifted up the Seven commands inscribed on Stone Slabs with the Seven
commands and verified everything in the journey. Do you realize how massive that
would be? and what implications it has??
huge!!
Mind you Mike1234 just by the Urantia revealing to us that the Seven command
tablets lay of the coast of Persia and Mesopotamia, in the present clearly
points to the cities that I discovered in the worldwind software using the book.
That is a clear match to the locations presently. This can relate to the 3
cities 1Susa, Dilmun/Babel and Dalamatia City of the coast of Persia and
Mesopotamia.
That would mean confirmation and entry or a platform of the Universal Fathers to reveal themselves ...maybe!! and that would mean they would be happy with the report!
And out of the Seven commands of old, comes a new covenant of man and the Father for a new future destiny for this planet! with a new book that completes all the books relevant! That would complete my record of the journey and would be the glue that ties in and brings in all the pieces of the puzzle that was created after the downfall of Dalamatia City. The great Endtime puzzle of mankind and his destiny!
And the guy who discovered the first city where all our problems came from, in the first instance also completed the greatest mystery known to man and assisted the Universal Fathers, in the record, in the uplift and realisation of man and God to a new level on the paths set out by Jesus, ultimately! That mystery would be the Seventh or the Sevenfold mystery which relates directly to the Ancients of Days.
That would be the Seventh Mystery of the Seven churches of the Seven Angels of the Seven Stars in Revelations.
However, everything has to be
completed according to my recent find confirming this journey. But then I would
have to go there out prove my record but with the current tensions out there and
the sensitivity of this journey. Would the military have to be involved to
verify?
Would the will of the USA have to arise in the verification of Dalamatia City
knowing how things are with Iran and yet knowing this of vital interest for the
USA in determining the truth of the matter and which may have implications? In
my opinion anyway!
I mean to say, the gates of the path
to the cities are layed wide open in truth. They are open to people to explore
and become part of an exciting journey of mystery in truth with nothing to fear
from what I can see so far! and it part of the path of the tree of life and its
journey past and of today and of the future!
Sevens ahahahah
PAPER 130 - ON THE WAY
TO ROME, Oct 19 2000
Hi here is a link from a friend and brother of mine who sent me this link.
He thought I would be interested in and on first glance I find many parallels already..
I have never seen this book before and quite happy to have a look at it. I did a Messiah keyword scan of the document and in the following are fragments that in type, if find reflect characteristics of the Messiah in this journey to the ancient places, .
Levi H. Dowling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_H._Dowling
http://spiritlight.com:80/jesus/aquarian1.htm
CHAPTER 50
Jesus passes the third brotherhood test, and receives the third degree, FAITH.
THE Logos waited seven days, and then was taken to the Hall of Fame, a
chamber rich in furnishings, and lighted up with gold and silver lamps.
2) The colors of its ceilings, decorations, furnishings and walls were blue and
gold.
3) Its shelves were filled with books of master minds; the paintings and the
statues were the works of highest art.
4) And Jesus was entranced with all this elegance and these manifests of
thought. He read the sacred books, and sought the meanings of the symbols and
the hieroglyphs.
50 And when he was absorbed in deepest thought, a priest approached and said,
6) Behold the glory of this place: my brother, you are
highly blest. Few men of earth, so young, have reached such heights of fame.
7) Now, if you do not waste your life in search for
hidden things that men can never comprehend, you may be founder of a school of
thought that will insure you endless fame;
8) For your philosophy is deeper far than that of Plato, and your teachings
please the common people more than those of Socrates.
9) Why seek for mystic light within these antiquated dens? Go forth and walk
with men, and think with men, and they will honor you.
10) And, after all, these weird initiations may be myths, and your Messiah hopes
but base illusions of the hour.
11) I would advise you to renounce uncertain things and choose the course that
leads to certain fame.
and
15) And Jesus said,
There is no loyal Jew who would not give his life
to save this temple from disgrace; in this I acted simply as a loyal Jew, and
you yourselves will bear me witness to this truth.
16) The signs of my
messiahship will follow me in
words and deeds.
17) And you may tear the temple down (and you will
tear it down) and in three days it will be built again more glorious than
before.
and
21) And then they took the scourge with which he drove the merchants out,
and would have driven him away; but Philo, who had come from Egypt to attend the
feast, stood forth and said,
22) You men of Israel, hear! This man is more than
man; take heed to what you do. I have, myself, heard Jesus speak, and all the
winds were still.
23) And I have seen him touch the sick, and they were healed. He stands a sage
above the sages of the world;
24) And you will see his star arise, and it will grow until it is the full-orbed
Sun of Righteousness.
25) Do not be hasty, men; just wait and you will have the proofs of his
messiahship.
26) And then the priests laid down the scourge, and Jesus said,
27) Prepare, O Israel, prepare to meet your king!
But you can never see the king while you press sin as such a precious idol to
your hearts.
28) The king is God; the pure in heart alone can see the face of God and live.
and
15) A lawyer came and asked,
What does messiah mean? and who has right to make
messiah of a man?
16) And Jesus said,
Messiah is one sent from God to seek and save the
lost. Messiahs are not made by men.
17) In first of every age Messiah comes to light the way; to heal up broken
hearts; to set the prisoners free. Messiah and the Christ are one.
18) Because a man claims to be Christ is not a sign that he is Christ.
19) A man may cause the streams to flow from flinty rocks; may bring storms at
will; may stay tempestuous winds; may heal the sick and raise the dead, and not
be sent from God.
20) All nature is subservient to the will of man, and evil men, as well as good,
have all the powers of mind, and may control the elements.
21) The head gives not the proof of true messiahship, for man by means of
intellect, can never know of God, nor bring himself to walk in light.
22) Messiah lives not in the head, but in the heart, the seat of mercy and of
love.
23) Messiah never works for selfish gains; he stands above the carnal self; his
words and deeds are for the universal good.
24) Messiah never tries to be a king, to wear a crown and sit upon an earthly
throne.
25) The king is earthy, of the earth; Messiah is the man from heaven.
26) And then the lawyer asked,
Why do you pose as king?
27) And Jesus said,
No man has ever heard me say that I am king. I
could not sit in Caesar's place and be the Christ.
28) Give unto Caesar what belongs to him; give unto God the treasures of your
heart.
and
here is a beautiful one
24) The woman asked,
Why do you say that only in Jerusalem man ought to
pray, and that they should not worship in our holy mount?
25) And Jesus said,
What you have said, I do not say. One place is just
as sacred as another place.
26) The hour has come when men must worship God within the temple of the heart;
for God is not within Jerusalem, nor in your holy mount in any way that he is
not in every heart.
27) Our God is Spirit; they who worship him must worship him in spirit and in
truth.
28) The woman said,
We know that when Messiah comes that he will lead us
in the ways of truth.
29 And Jesus said,
Behold the Christ has come; Messiah speaks to you.
and
NOW, on the last day of the feast when multitudes were in the courtways,
Jesus said,
2) Whoever is athirst may come to me and drink.
3) He who believes in me and in the Christ whom God had sent, may drink the cup
of life, and from his inner parts shall streams of living waters flow.
4) The Holy Breath will over-shadow him, and he will breathe the Breath, and
speak the words, and live the life.
5) The people were divided in their views concerning him. Some said,
This man is prophet of the living God.
6) And others said,
He is Messiah whom our prophets said would come.
7) And others said,
He cannot be the Christ, for he came down from
Galilee; the Christ must come from Bethlehem where David lived.
and
3) A scribe approaching Jesus said,
Rabboni, why do you keep the people waiting in
suspense? If you are the Messiah that the prophets said would come, will you not
tell us now?
4) And Jesus said,
Lo, I have told you many times, but you believed me
not.
5) No man can do the work that I have done and bring to men the truth as I have
brought the truth who did not come from God.
6) What I have done and said are witnesses for me.
7) God calls, and they whose ears have been attuned to hear the heavenly voice
have heard the call and have believed in me; because God testifies for me.
8) You cannot hear the voice of God, because your ears are closed. You cannot
comprehend the works of God, because your hearts are full of self.
9) And you are busybodies, mischief-makers, hypocrites. You take these men whom
God has given me into your haunts and try to poison them with sophistries and
lies, and think that you will snatch them from the fold of God.
10) I tell you, men, these men are tried and you can snatch not one of them
away.
11) My Father who has given them to me is greater than you all, and he and I are
one.
and
3) A pious Jew named Simeon was in the temple serving God.
4) From early youth he had been looking for Immanuel to come, and he had prayed
to God that he might not depart until his eyes had seen Messiah in the flesh.
5) And when he saw the infant Jesus he rejoiced and said,
and
9) And when she saw the infant Jesus she exclaimed,
Behold Immanuel! Behold the signet cross of the
Messiah on his brow!
10) And then the woman knelt to worship him, as God with us, Immanuel; but one,
a master, clothed in white, appeared and said,
and
What have the Jewish prophets said concerning
such a one?
11) The Jewish masters answered him and said,
The prophets long ago foretold that one would come to
rule the tribes of Israel; that this Messiah would be born in Bethlehem.
12) They said,
The prophet Micah wrote,
O Bethlehem Judea, a little place among the Judean
hills, yet out of you will one come forth to rule my people, Israel; yea, one
who lived in olden times, in very ancient days
and
9) The sages of the ages call you harbinger. The
prophets look to you and say, He is Elijah come again.
10) Your mission here is that of harbinger; for you will go before Messiah's
face to pave his way, and make the people ready to receive their king.
11) This readiness is purity of heart; none but the pure in heart can recognize
the king.
and
Levi H. Dowling
quote:
CHAPTER 50
50 And when he was absorbed in deepest thought, a priest approached and
said,
6)Behold the glory of this place: my brother, you are highly blest. Few men
of earth, so young, have reached such heights of fame.
7) Now, if you do not waste your life in search for
hidden things that men can never comprehend, you may be founder of a school of
thought that will insure you endless fame;
8) For your philosophy is deeper far than that of Plato, and your teachings
please the common people more than those of Socrates.
9) Why seek for mystic light within these antiquated dens? Go forth and walk
with men, and think with men, and they will honor you.
10) And, after all, these weird initiations may be myths, and your Messiah
hopes but base illusions of the hour.
11) I would advise you to renounce uncertain things
and choose the course that leads to certain fame.
In other
woirds
we should get act on the things we can comprehend in the paths layed out that
can br proven. Really, all this debate is
usless if people cannot find
conclusion and evidence.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sevens
posted
05-16-2008 07:25 PM
Lao Tze just continue down the various posts
Hi here is a link from a friend and brother of mine who sent me this link.
He thought I would be interested in and on first glance I find many parallels
already. I have never seen this book before and quite happy to have a look at
it. I did a Messiah keyword scan of the document and in the following are
fragments that in type, if find reflect characteristics of the Messiah and
reflections in the journey to the ancient places. Again focalising on the
ancient places and seeing if there are reflections in the highlights
quote:
CHAPTER 50
Jesus passes the third brotherhood test, and receives the third degree, FAITH.
THE Logos waited seven days, and then was taken to the Hall of Fame, a chamber
rich in furnishings, and lighted up with gold and silver lamps.
2) The colors of its ceilings, decorations, furnishings and walls were blue
and gold.
3) Its shelves were filled with books of master minds; the paintings and
the statues were the works of highest art.
4) And Jesus was entranced with all this elegance and these manifests of
thought. He read the sacred books, and sought the meanings of the symbols and
the hieroglyphs.
50 And when he was absorbed in deepest thought, a priest approached and said,
6) Behold the glory of this place: my brother, you are highly blest. Few men
of earth, so young, have reached such heights of fame.
7) Now, if you do not waste your life in search for hidden things that men can
never comprehend, you may be founder of a school of thought that will insure
you endless fame;
8) For your philosophy is deeper far than that of Plato, and your teachings
please the common people more than those of Socrates.
9) Why seek for mystic light within these antiquated dens? Go forth and walk
with men, and think with men, and they will honor you.
10) And, after all, these weird initiations may be myths, and your Messiah
hopes but base illusions of the hour.
11) I would advise you to renounce uncertain things and choose the course that
leads to certain fame.
and
15) And Jesus said,
There is no loyal Jew who would not give his life to save this temple from
disgrace; in this I acted simply as a loyal Jew, and you yourselves will
bear me witness to this truth.
16) The signs of my messiahship will follow me in words and deeds.
17) And you may tear the temple down (and you will tear it down) and in three
days it will be built again more glorious than before.
and
21) And then they took the scourge with which he drove the merchants out, and
would have driven him away; but Philo, who had come from Egypt to attend the
feast, stood forth and said,
22) You men of Israel, hear! This man is more than man; take heed to what you
do. I have, myself, heard Jesus speak, and all the winds were still.
23) And I have seen him touch the sick, and they were healed.
He stands a
sage above the sages of the world;
24) And you will see his star arise, and it will grow until it is the
full-orbed Sun of Righteousness.
25) Do not be hasty, men; just wait and you will have the proofs of his
messiahship.
26) And then the priests laid down the scourge, and Jesus said,
27) Prepare, O Israel, prepare to meet your king! But you can never see the
king while you press sin as such a precious idol to your hearts.
28) The king is God; the pure in heart alone can see the face of God and live.
and
15) A lawyer came and asked,
What does messiah mean? and who has right to make messiah of a man?
16) And Jesus said,
Messiah is one sent from God to seek and save the lost. Messiahs are not made
by men.
17) In first of every age Messiah comes to light the way; to heal up broken
hearts; to set the prisoners free. Messiah and the Christ are one.
18) Because a man claims to be Christ is not a sign that he is Christ.
19) A man may cause the streams to flow from flinty rocks; may bring storms at
will; may stay tempestuous winds; may heal the sick and raise the dead, and
not be sent from God.
20) All nature is subservient to the will of man, and evil men, as well as
good, have all the powers of mind, and may control the elements.
21) The head gives not the proof of true
messiahship, for man by means of
intellect, can never know of God, nor bring himself to walk in light.
22) Messiah lives not in the head, but in the heart, the seat of mercy and of
love.
23) Messiah never works for selfish gains; he stands above the carnal self;
his words and deeds are for the universal good.
24) Messiah never tries to be a king, to wear a crown and sit upon an earthly
throne.
25) The king is earthy, of the earth; Messiah is the man from heaven.
26) And then the lawyer asked,
Why do you pose as king?
27) And Jesus said,
No man has ever heard me say that I am king. I could not sit in Caesar's place
and be the Christ.
28) Give unto Caesar what belongs to him; give unto God the treasures of your
heart.
and
here is a beautiful one
24) The woman asked,
Why do you say that only in Jerusalem man ought to pray, and that they should
not worship in our holy mount?
25) And Jesus said,
What you have said, I do not say. One place is just as sacred as another
place.
26) The hour has come when men must worship God within the temple of the
heart; for God is not within Jerusalem, nor in your holy mount in any way that
he is not in every heart.
27) Our God is Spirit; they who worship him must worship him in spirit and in
truth.
28) The woman said,
We know that when Messiah comes that he will lead us in the ways of truth.
29 And Jesus said,
Behold the Christ has come; Messiah speaks to you.
and
NOW, on the last day of the feast when multitudes were in the
courtways,
Jesus said,
2) Whoever is athirst may come to me and drink.
3) He who believes in me and in the Christ whom God had sent, may drink the
cup of life, and from his inner parts shall streams of living waters flow.
4) The Holy Breath will over-shadow him, and he will breathe the Breath, and
speak the words, and live the life.
5) The people were divided in their views concerning him. Some said,
This man is prophet of the living God.
6) And others said,
He is Messiah whom our prophets said would come.
7) And others said,
He cannot be the Christ, for he came down from Galilee; the Christ must come
from Bethlehem where David lived.
and
3) A scribe approaching Jesus said,
Rabboni, why do you keep the people waiting in suspense? If you are the
Messiah that the prophets said would come, will you not tell us now?
4) And Jesus said,
Lo, I have told you many times, but you believed me not.
5) No man can do the work that I have done and bring to men the truth as I
have brought the truth who did not come from God.
6) What I have done and said are witnesses for me.
7) God calls, and they whose ears have been attuned to hear the heavenly voice
have heard the call and have believed in me; because God testifies for me.
8) You cannot hear the voice of God, because your ears are closed. You cannot
comprehend the works of God, because your hearts are full of self.
9) And you are busybodies, mischief-makers, hypocrites. You take these men
whom God has given me into your haunts and try to poison them with sophistries
and lies, and think that you will snatch them from the fold of God.
10) I tell you, men, these men are tried and you can snatch not one of them
away.
11) My Father who has given them to me is greater than you all, and he and I
are one.
and
3) A pious Jew named Simeon was in the temple serving God.
4) From early youth he had been looking for Immanuel to come, and he had
prayed to God that he might not depart until his eyes had seen Messiah in the
flesh.
5) And when he saw the infant Jesus he rejoiced and said,
and
9) And when she saw the infant Jesus she exclaimed,
Behold Immanuel! Behold the signet cross of the Messiah on his brow!
10) And then the woman knelt to worship him, as God with us, Immanuel; but
one, a master, clothed in white, appeared and said,
and
What have the Jewish prophets said concerning such a one?
11) The Jewish masters answered him and said,
The prophets long ago foretold that one would come to rule the tribes of
Israel; that this Messiah would be born in Bethlehem.
12) They said,
The prophet Micah wrote,
O Bethlehem Judea, a little place among the Judean hills, yet out of you will
one come forth to rule my people, Israel; yea, one who lived in olden times,
in very ancient days
and
9) The sages of the ages call you harbinger. The prophets look to you and say,
He is Elijah come again.
10) Your mission here is that of harbinger; for you will go before
Messiah's face to pave his way, and make the people ready to receive their
king.
11) This readiness is purity of heart; none but the pure in heart can
recognize the king.
I thought that book was fascinating and had many messages for us today in ter