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Jeremiah 18

The People's Plots and Jeremiah's Prayer

18 Then said they, Come, and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words. 19 Give heed to me, O Lord, and hearken to the voice of them that contend with me. 20 Shall evil be recompensed for good? for they have digged a pit for my soul. Remember that I stood before thee to speak good for them, and to turn away thy wrath from them.

21 Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle. 22 Let a cry be heard from their houses, when thou shalt bring a troop suddenly upon them: for they have digged a pit to take me, and hid snares for my feet. 23 Yet, Lord, thou knowest all their counsel against me to slay  me: forgive not their iniquity, neither blot out their sin from thy sight, but let them be overthrown before thee; deal thus with them in the time of thine anger.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Jeremiah+18&ver=kjv

 

sevens


Jeremiah 16

18 And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things. 19 O Lord, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. 20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? 21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The Lord.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Jeremiah+16&ver=kjv

sevens


Message to the last messenger

Jeremiah 15

The LORD's Assurance to Jeremiah

15 O Lord, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke. 16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts. 17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation. 18 Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail [5] 19 Therefore thus saith the Lord, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them. 20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the Lord. 21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the terrible

 

and

7 And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave them of children, I will destroy [3] my people, since they return not from their ways. 8 Their widows are increased to me above the sand of the seas: I have brought upon them against the mother [4] of the young men a spoiler at noonday: I have caused him to fall upon it suddenly, and terrors upon the city. 9 She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost; her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the Lord.

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:10 am

Katherine

Im not repeating myself I post new things from different angles, I post images all sorts of things.

What do you post that is worthwhile.

Criticisms, in other words nothing much, is that all your capable off.

I show similar things from different perspectives and attend to responses. If you dont like it just move on. Its no problem. You dont have to read it!

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:03 am

Ahh its all a laugh

I think we are heading for something, like a very big hidden Omen revealing itself.

Jack I think you going to need some straight shots instead.
ahahahah


cheers

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:26 am

Jezebel wrote:
Katherine wrote:
sevens wrote:
Katherine wrote:Dear me Sevens, are you still wittering on after all these posts? :yawn:



I thought you had left to, I posted more information.

sevens


There is also something called 'too much information'. I left because I was comatose with boredom.



Yes, aside from the occasional funny comment, it is pretty damn boring -- just sevens repeating, over and over and over, how some image on a NASA photograph shows the existence of a submerged city and everyone else pointing out that (a) it doesn't and (b) even if it did, that wouldn't prove the existence of a god. And on it goes . . . on and on and on.

However, I keep checking back every morning because I'm curious about just how long it
can go on before sevens finds someone else to share his revelations with or the admins shut it down. (Morbid fascination.) This could end up being the longest thread that went no where ever known to humanity. This, in itself, could be Internet history in the making! :shifty:



ahahah i have to laugh at this post to.

Boring eh!, well go to the movies and try something a little different, you dont have to check back here if its boring.

The problem is people try to bog down the thread with personal attacks and offer nothing else but criticisms, sometimes the thread doesn't move on and when it does its bogged down with purpose that's why it appears we are going in circles.

There is much more I can post but I dont because its not worth it considering the response.

We are simply in a scenario with only one way out.

Admin could shut it down, no problem but this thread is simply another view and I am not against Richard Dawkins. I just happen to believe there is other things that haven't been considered and Im trying to demonstrate that. To provoke more thought into the matter of things.

You know Richard Dawkins is smart intelligent person and Im sure he would look at this with interest especially in the witness his followers in action. I would think he would look into things properly unlike many I see in this thread. Im sure he may have different thoughts but that's OK, its a free world where all can express themselves, right!.

To share our thoughts, even in difference. Is that a problem to deserve such personal attack response?

Sevens


Nah, not at all, that's the last thing on my min. I think its more serious than hits and I dont get much anyway.

I just want to troll for truth. I feel and see much going on from where I stand. Going by gut feeling, I see many prophecy constructs coming together not to mention Nostradamus and the Seventh accomplishment considering the time period we are in.

Its like foreseen realities that made no sense over the thousands of years are now coming together from different places in a convergence of foreseen realities into one final reality when the conditions are right. I believe we are in the moment.

Can you understand that?

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:21 am

elise97 wrote:no, its you sevens that is trying to prove something.

we have this thread as evidence of something, but not what you want!

so you think this '
jeramiah' characters ramblings and the utrania
book are a solid base for exploring reality? you are starting from a house of cards, my friend.

what do you get if you pile rubbish on top of rubbish, sevens ?



I reckon you are on the wrong track being the way you are towards me.

Everything in Jeremiah is exactly what we have going on in this thread. My message is from the ancients times, there is no other on the planet proclaiming this specialized message concerning previous ages. Discovering the places through triangulation of the words of the Urantia Book and including other books in support.

The NASA images do match the descriptions and the 40ft walls of the city can be seen. According to NASA there is no mistake, some people say OH there's nothing there even though its quite evident that something is there and has symmetry and symbolism we understand and see around us today.

There is nothing to fear in all of this as there is a clear path, Im only here to be of service to mankind if there is an eventuality as I see forecast in the books associated with the journey and ancient times in the fullest interpretations.

Never underestimate the content of this thread, what you see before is planet changing and all things will change and most men perceive in their heart of hearts that there is change upon the way as foreseen by religion. I know Religion is in bad condition at this time and there are many things to criticize today and from the past but there is a river of truth in amongst all the bushes that is truth, this river is leading mankind to this junction of ancient times and revealing for the benefit of mankind and his destiny.

All it takes is the right conditions for things to manifest suddenly and the prophets and all the Seers in part saw fragments of the final conditions. It is only in the right reality conditions in the final time attached with the final or last message, that all the prophecies comes into a oneness, a complete fulfillment of what was foreseen in the fullest and widest way.

I feel this path to the ancient places is right path as foreseen and much prophecy has already been fulfilled, every day it happens. It could be that a demonstration where God reveals himself creates a condition where every man will bow down. I believe that is on the cards.

This thread, in this place could be the actual catalyst in response to the notion of no God.

What I posted in Jeremiah was a part of the piece which I believe concerns this very thread and experience. Prophecy lays dormant until it comes into its fullest expression, in the reality.

Sevens



Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:35 am

LucidFlight wrote:
sevens wrote:You know this Atheist business is just like another church in itself with their owns books of doctrine and with their own followers and who persecute those a little different. Its really no different to a church.

Sevens



Now you're just trolling for attention. :coffee:



Nah, not at all, that's the last thing on my mind. I think its more serious than hits and I dont get much anyway.

I just want to troll for truth. I feel and see much going on from where I stand. Going by gut feeling, I see many prophecy constructs coming together not to mention Nostradamus and the Seventh accomplishment considering the time period we are in.

Its like foreseen realities that made no sense over the thousands of years are now coming together from different places in a convergence of foreseen realities into one final reality when the conditions are right. I believe we are in the moment.

Can you understand that?

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:39 am

elise97 wrote:
no, its you sevens that is trying to prove something.



Absolutely, I have something to prove that God exists and who is personal.

I would like to demonstrate that in faith and I think I have found a way to do that and not only that, I think I have found the catalyst.

Anyway, this is where the action of the planet is, everything else is boring by comparison
hehehe! there is only one action happening and from right here, in this thread. The actions of the Gods ahaha Joking joking having fun. To Rouse the whole world and everyone of there behinds hehehe!

thanks

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:11 am

Actually in this thread is the culmination of all the super hero's in one. hehehe hahaha hehehe!

I got the case of the laughs

Sevens

Re: Is Islam a totalitarion religion?

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:18 am

Is Islam a totalitarian religion?

No not at all and Islam will go through great correction like the Christian religion. Judgement will be based on the witness of the persons life and his inner motive that no one knows. Judgment has nothing to do with religion, doctrine and dogma, its all about the individual. Jesus did lay a path through this and judgement is pending in my view.

Sevens

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Quote:
21 Thus saith the Lord; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem; 22 Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers. 23 But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction. 24 And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the Lord, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;

25 Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and this city shall remain for ever



The Sabbath Day is a Seventh Day, In the above in my mind its a remembrance of the future Seventh Day when Judgment comes unto truth. The day will be the day when the number 7 accomplishes when the Seventh Mystery is realized. The day of rest for the Elect and the faithful.

The key to the Seventh mystery is realisation in the right reality conditions. Realizing and seeing you're in the middle of it and you didn't know in the first instance of the journey that you were heading towards the consummation of the Sevenfold mystery.
 

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:14 am
 

Quote:

10 Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; yet every one of them doth curse me. 11 The Lord said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction. 12 Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? 13 Thy substance and thy treasures will I give to the spoil without price, and that for all thy sins, even in all thy borders. 14 And I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not : for a fire is kindled in mine anger, which shall burn upon you.



The above fragment appears to have to same conditions that I see fulfilled in this journey and the message that comes from ancient times.

The key points I was attracted to was.

Verily it shall be well with thy remnant;
There is a remnant at the final stand of truth.

and

13 Thy substance and thy treasures will I give to the spoil without price, and that for all thy sins, even in all thy borders.
Given without price and the treasures are spoilt by the spurn and mock from everyone. They are given for the spoiling, like the excuse of judgment.

and

14 And
I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not : for a fire is kindled in mine anger, which shall burn upon you.
A warning.

I felt the above are clear matches and we all going to go through the abyss of truth and the ancient places and the message is the catalyst of change. It appears for those who are asleep or who mock and spurn there is penalty.

All truth in this journey has been given without price or reward, all on the run.

and this interesting one

Quote:
Jeremiah 14
18 If I go forth into the field, then behold the slain with the sword! and
if I enter into the city, then behold them that are sick with famine! yea, both the prophet and the priest go about [3] into a land that they know not . 19 Hast thou utterly rejected Judah? hath thy soul lothed Zion? why hast thou smitten us, and there is no healing for us? we looked for peace, and there is no good; and for the time of healing, and behold trouble!
 


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:49 am

 

In the following extract reminds me of the test I made in the RD forum about a path where I could prove God, I likened to the test of Elijah concerning the test of Baal as opposed to the Father.

Its interesting to come across this piece relating to Baal and the various warnings.

 
Quote:
11 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; [2] and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. 12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble. [3] 13 For according to the number of thy cities were thy gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense unto Baal. 14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble. [4] 15 What hath my beloved to do in mine house, seeing she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest. 16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken. 17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal .



Baal is the God of No God these days, Baal essentially embraces the Lucifer Manifesto of no God and does include ownership.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the thread over in Atheist land.
 

Quote:
The Plot against Jeremiah
18 And the Lord hath given me knowledge of it, and I know it: then thou shewedst me their doings. 19 But I was like a lamb or an ox that is brought to the slaughter; and I knew not that they had devised devices against me, saying, Let us destroy the tree [5] with the fruit thereof, and let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name may be no more remembered. 20 But, O Lord of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause. 21 Therefore thus saith the Lord of the men of Anathoth, that seek thy life, saying, Prophesy not in the name of the Lord, that thou die not by our hand: 22 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, I will punish [6] them: the young men shall die by the sword; their sons and their daughters shall die by famine: 23 And there shall be no remnant of them: for I will bring evil upon the men of Anathoth, even the year of their visitation.



The sword in this case is the word


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
Quote:
7 Nevertheless hear thou now this word that I speak in thine ears, and in the ears of all the people; 8 The prophets that have been before me and before thee of old prophesied both against many countries, and against great kingdoms, of war, and of evil, and of pestilence. 9 The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him.



and for our times to

 

Quote:
Jeremiah 31
10 Hear the word of the Lord, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as
a shepherd doth his flock. 11 For the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. 12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the Lord, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all. 13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow. 14 And I will satiate the soul of the priests with fatness, and my people shall be satisfied with my goodness, saith the Lord. 15 Thus saith the Lord; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not. 16 Thus saith the Lord; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the Lord; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy. 17 And there is hope in thine end , saith the Lord, that thy children shall come again to their own border.


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:32 am
The New Covenant
Jeremiah 31

 
Quote:

27 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast. 28 And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith the Lord. 29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. 30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

and

Jeremiah 33
14 Behold, the days come,
saith the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. 15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.



Just beautiful


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:13 pm

LucidFlight wrote:
sevens wrote:You should write a movie

sevens


So... sevens, do you have any plans for
after the expedition? What if you're successful? What then? What if it's a hoax? What then? Would you consider Krishna, or some type of Eastern mysticism thing?

:coffee: (I really should cut back.)



 

If an expedition was mounted and it was a success on all counts, I would probably go in hiding and would still work on the Internet and search out the other locations to verify through expeditions. If all this was untrue I would probably go into hiding and work the Internet and apologize but people have seen what I have seen and it was all open.

Buddhism is involved in this whether they like it or not, I revealed it to them, they just said it doesn't matter what happens, in other words dont worry about it.

With Hindu, its the Tipura of the 3 cities.

I believe the anomalies are right and NASA says the data is right, so III take there word for it.

However, there are some interesting thoughts found in prophecy, the elect might be evacuated before judgment and that maybe the demonstration that will be obvious. It could be that this thread may just abruptly stop in mid air.

The Sabbath day is a day of rest and on the Seventh day the Seven accomplishes the Seventh Mystery, the Seventh day, a day of rest for the elect and faithful, that infers a evacuation of the Elect for a time and who will witness the judgement process in its actual physical outwork.

The ones that had no belief in the beforehand come into this self realisation. When the realisation comes that a God exists and that Sevens was right, then its to late you are in the actual process.

However, during the time of troubles and closing of the ranks, it is possible that great mercy will be extended by Jesus and people do have another opportunity to repent from denying him....I think?? If correct, that mercy consummates when The Melchizedek and possibly Jesus or another Paradise Magisterial Son personality reveal themselves to adjudge the age. All that would prove that God exists and he is personal.

That's the call Im making.

The Elect upon coming back will have modified and healed bodies that will accept the energies of the tree of life and therefore receive immortality to rehabilitate the planet for the next thousand years. When the built in space temple comes down from space, New Heaven and new Earth it begin service as our first translation temple which will bring us into the 7th Epochal revelation. The era of light and life, the utopian ages. The Utopian times most people on the planet are looking for but wont find it in this system.

I think the world in the next thousand years will be vastly different to what see now.

I personally think that there will be a second opportunity for those who weren't aware of this eventuality. This is because of the slackness of Christianity and the other religions in the beforehand time. This includes the lack of appeal in there witness in there churches with all the manipulation for financial dominance over many. There are many things but all this will be corrected and a rebuke will go out to 6 of the 7 churches. Islam will go through its own correction to.

In the first demonstration there will be very few who will be gathered at the final stand. However, in the 2nd opportunity (if there is one) there will be many because of inner realisation.

This is the path that leads to Utopia and everyone has an opportunity right here, right now! These are the promises of Jesus. This is what I am finding in this journey. In the phase after the 1stDemonstration (evacuation) Jesus and the Last Rebel of No god fights and that's when the great tribulation begins as foreseen. The last Rebel is angry as he knows his end draws near.

That's what Im finding in religion.

Sevens


Micah 2 12 I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee; I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; I will put them together as the sheep of Bozrah, as the flock in the midst of their fold: they shall make great noise by reason of the multitude of men. 13 The breaker is come up before them: they have broken up, and have passed through the gate, and are gone out by it: and their king shall pass before them, and the Lord on the head of them.

Micah 4 7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.

8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem. 9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counsellor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail. 10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the Lord shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. 11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion. 12 But they know not the thoughts of the Lord, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor. 13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the Lord, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.


Micah 5 7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the Lord, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men. 8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: [5] who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver. 9 Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off. 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots: 11 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strong holds: 12 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers: 13 Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands. 14 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities. [6] 15 And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.

What the LORD Requires

6 Wherewith shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? 7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body [1] for the sin of my soul? 8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk [2] humbly with thy God?

9 The Lord's voice crieth unto the city, and the man of wisdom shall see thy name: hear ye the rod, and who hath appointed it. 10 Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable? 11 Shall I count them pure [3] with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights? 12 For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth. 13 Therefore also will I make thee sick in smiting thee, in making thee desolate because of thy sins. 14 Thou shalt eat, but not be satisfied; and thy casting down shall be in the midst of thee; and thou shalt take hold, but shalt not deliver; and that which thou deliverest will I give up to the sword. 15 Thou shalt sow, but thou shalt not reap; thou shalt tread the olives, but thou shalt not anoint thee with oil; and sweet wine, but shalt not drink wine. 16 For the statutes of Omri are kept, and all the works of the house of Ahab, and ye walk in their counsels; that I should make thee a desolation, and the inhabitants thereof an hissing: therefore ye shall bear the reproach of my people.

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The LORD's Compassion on Israel

14 Feed [3] thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old. 15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. 16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. 17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms [4] of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee. 18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy. 19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. 20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old. Micah 7 >>


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Then Daniel presented the drama of the impending "crisis"--the smiting of the great image and the immediate establishment of the everlasting reign of righteousness, the Messianic kingdom


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"The true shepherd gathers his flock into the fold for the night in times of danger. And when the morning has come, he enters into the fold by the door, and when he calls, the sheep know his voice. Every shepherd who gains entrance to the sheepfold by any other means than by the door is a thief and a robber. The true shepherd enters the fold after the porter has opened the door for him, and his sheep, knowing his voice, come out at his word; and when they that are his are thus brought forth, the true shepherd goes before them; he leads the way and the sheep follow him. His sheep follow him because they know his voice; they will not follow a stranger. They will flee from the stranger because they know not his voice. This multitude which is gathered about us here are like sheep without a shepherd, but when we speak to them, they know the shepherd's voice, and they follow after us; at least, those who hunger for truth and thirst for righteousness do. Some of you are not of my fold; you know not my voice, and you do not follow me. And because you are false shepherds, the sheep know not your voice and will not follow you."


Re: My best friend believes I'm going to hell

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:17 am

My best friend believes I'm going to hell



Dont worry about going to Hell as that is a manmade creation, hell doesn't exist but there is personality extinction, you know, when you die its black and that's it, no consciousness of self forever, that was because of the decision of no will for survival and denial of God.

That's no problem, people get what they will for themselves no problem but there is no life after death in denial, God is the only one that can resurrect a personality after death and does include repersonalisation in a new body but made with a different substance that we cant see in the time/space dimension.

Anyone that wants to die forever regarding personality has every right to request personality extinction, its a free universe in decision making.

If your interested in no survival after death, the easiest way you can perform personality extinction for yourself is simply to believe that God doesn't exist or deny him utterly and that should guarantee personality extinction. The Ancient of Days if requested will respond to your call of no survival.

Easy process actually! there are many that will only know there blessings once on this planet and will never go beyond to the great universal adventure because they requested extinction after death and they never believed nor had any faith except in there own BS against man under the guise of goodness, where in actual fact it was deception. Talk peace but bring war and BS on a micro and macro levels, this applies to many individuals and countries.

That is the story in truth!

When people talk the following crap without understanding they are good potentials for personality extinction through unthinking denial. Definitely on the road to personality extinction.

 

God, if he exists, is a fucking incompetent. I wouldn't hire him to build a bookcase



No problem at all and its no real loss to the universe realms of existence and there was nothing useful coming forth in the first instance anyway. Just Crap and eventual self disaster! Not even smart nor intelligent in the expressed words of Crap!

Oh about Demons they were interned in the universal jails ready for adjudication 2000 years ago. The only one left on this planet is the Last Rebel of deception his name is Caligastia or Cal for short. He was the ex planetary prince of the planet and was shorn of power. But if a person desires can communicate with him, he can but you will be deceived. When people claim demonic possession its usually the outwork of a maladjusted mind.

Cals people are those who prophecy good things to people in these days but good things wont come until all things are resolved on the spiritual and universal levels.

The whole idea of Cal is to lead people astray from the truth of matter and blind them with crap. When the evacuation comes for the elect and faithful, then Cal knows his time draws near and that when the world goes through a tribulation because Cal is going to make every attempt to destroy the planet. If Cal goes down, so does man and that's his manifesto in this day of revealing the truth of the matter.

How Cal works with religion is he brings about division amongst the religions mainly through differences in dogma and doctrine. He deceives people in that the way clear is through death and destruction through the poor interpretations of man, he plays all sides to bring about division. He creates bondage over man through unthinking ritual and unbending views and casts against man through these differences. He creates the problem only to find the solution through man which brings man under more spiritual bondage with prejudice and bias and then blames it on God and uses that as a witness. That's why religion looks woeful because it has been spiritually manipulated through the devices of division and with very poor interpretations marked by division. His whole purpose is make religion out as dysfunctional and without any credibility and to make it look like a horses ass. And it works and I think he has been successful in many ways because look at the reality of religion and its exclusiveness today. However, truth always prevails.

Cals biggest manifestation is the No God deception, that's his biggest work played out on man. Only because he wants to be God over man through his crafty devices but he is no God over man and never will be.

He and his children are headed for personality extinction and we are at the steps of the adjudication NOW!

In the near future a planetary adjudication will be physically implemented and great decisions will have to be made by every individual. The time is approaching fast and every one will be caught out because it will happen very SUDDENLY and no will believe beforehand. Everyone has to be prepared within themselves with spiritual decision before it occurs in order to find rest on the Seventh Day, the day the Sevenfold mystery is called in by Paradise and which begins the actual judgement process of man and his utter B.S. crap he sprouts everyday in order to impose on man. Man loves to be the King of B.S. in his small life, his life witness will be his judge and for many that means a reckoning and a real humbling of man and his utter crap.

We are at the gates of truth whether people like it or not and it will come to pass and it will be a very uncomfortable feeling and everyone's heart will be disturbed greatly because they missed the opportunity and they will realize that they were simply wrong in there ideas on many things not to mention the offense towards Paradise in denial on every level by mans limited wrong ideas and thoughtless words which includes all his absolute ignorance of these realities due to no study, no research just stupid opinions with no basis in truth not even in a simple demonstration.

The reason these days will be cut short is purely for the benefit of the Elect and the Faithful, there is no other reason. If there was no intervention and evacuation the planet and its faithless human will be destroyed by there own human hands in there utter B.S. crap!

The destiny of the planet is due for a reset.
 

Sevens
 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:53 pm

On a another thread about Hell I did mention Caligastia, Cal for short, I was wondering if we where speaking about the same person or entity.

With Cal the moderator, personally Im not one for challenging before we even talk. I respect his views like I respect Richard Dawkins views. Richard Dawkins makes some very valid points and he is right about evolution and so was Charles Darwin. But the only difference is, I believe that there is a God who is personal and its all evolution but does has some creative input.

All Im doing here is making information available, if in case I am spot on in the outcome the information could be of help. Doesn't matter Atheist or not so long as the information is there and is accessible. No one should underestimate the times we are in, particularly in light of the ancient places and the journey.

Sevens

Re: My best friend believes I'm going to hell

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:44 pm

I am following my conscience. My moral sense tells me that no God would allow some of the unjustifiable eveils that have polluted our world, when he could so easily have prevented them.



There is a last rebel roaming around prosecuting his nefarious schemes but his end is very near.

Sevens


Re: My best friend believes I'm going to hell

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:44 pm

I am following my conscience. My moral sense tells me that no God would allow some of the unjustifiable eveils that have polluted our world, when he could so easily have prevented them.



There is a last rebel roaming around prosecuting his nefarious schemes but his end is very near.

There is path opened now that passes through the coming judgment safely, this path leads to the Utopian Ages that your looking for but its based on faith and discovery from ancient times.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:53 pm

On a another thread about Hell I did mention Caligastia, Cal for short, I was wondering if we were speaking about the same person or entity.

With Cal the moderator, personally Im not one for challenging before we even talk. I respect his views like I respect Richard Dawkins views. Richard Dawkins makes some very valid points and he is right about evolution and so was Charles Darwin. But the only difference is, I believe that there is a God who is personal and its all evolution but does has some creative input.

All Im doing here is making information available, if in case I am spot on in the outcome, the information could be of help. Doesn't matter Atheist or not so long as the information is there and is accessible. No one should underestimate the times we are in, particularly in light of the ancient places and the journey.

Hey! Jack
Rawlinson
Cheers
one for the journey eh! come what may, see what happens
ahaha.


Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:23 pm

ahahah full on wasn't it, I knew you would spin out on it.

Well that's what I reckon. I suppose its a little full on.

Sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:13 pm

Hey look when I posted the Jeremiah extract you which verse really got my attention.

It was this one

 
All my familiars watched for my halting, saying, Peradventure he will be enticed,



Peradventure,
1. to think or infer without certain or strong evidence; conjecture; guess. –verb (used without object)
2. to conjecture or guess. –noun
3. a matter of conjecture.
4. an idea or thought of something as being possible or likely.
5. a conjecture or opinion

enticed
to attract artfully or adroitly or by arousing hope or desire : tempt
synonyms see lure

Consider I found this Jeremiah fragment Yesterday and just happen to read this fragment where I recognized a parallel in the current reality.

Regarding the keywords, Peradventure and Enticed.

Isn't that the nature of this complete thread, Peradventure, an idea or thought of something as being possible or likely, or a conjecture or opinion based on the evidence that I see in the images including the triangulation of the city based on the descriptive words of the Urantia Book concerning the location of the First city using the Persian Heads as a bearing. Not only that the whole journey which led to the discoveries was led by the books in extracting all the relevant information which included many reflections of this actual journey.

The other word was entice. Isn't that the case in this journey where I have used all the information to attract artfully or adroitly or by arousing hope or desire in light of the messages coming out of the books of all religion.

Now how I was led to Jeremiah was through a word search on Google keyword last prophet I think. I saw this website and just glanced through the page and I saw a verse from Jeremiah that witnessed to me, I went to the chapter and there I found Jeremiah 30 and saw the parallel reflection in this actual thread and therefore my post at the time.

Then I wondered about peradventure and I thought of this journey and saw the parallel in the meaning. Another thing that impressed me was the outcome of the Paragraph and it was what I expected, the ultimate conclusion of that paragraph was inferring Judgement where the Lord stands by his little Seven. It may take time but honestly no one knows the time only by through the signs. The biggest sign is that the final message will come from the ancient times, the beginning, the ancient places would be the most logical conclusion. This is why it should be explored further physically.

You know in this fragment of the Urantia Book, I get awfully curious whether this the prophecy of the discovery of Dalamatia City and the home art relics that lay within the city walls. They would be still there.


Mek did a great deal to advance the culture of the Andonites and to improve the art of the blue man. A blend of the blue man with the Andon
stock produced an artistically gifted type, and many of them became master sculptors. They did not work in stone or marble, but their works of clay, hardened by baking, adorned the gardens of Dalamatia.

 

Great progress was made in the home arts, most of which were lost in the long and dark ages of rebellion, never to be rediscovered until modern times.




Is this a prophecy pointing to a successful expedition of verifying the city and discovering the home artworks. Or is the above highlight about normal Sumerian relics found years past?

I would like to believe the first option.

Anyway its interesting.

Looking at

 

All my familiars watched for my halting,

To me this expresses that all the Seraphims and ArchAngels including Paradise personalities about me are watch for my halting, for me to be halted, whilst I express my peradventure through the journey to the ancient places to raise hope and desire from the beginning, the beginning places, the wasted places as foreseen.

Here is Nostradamus Quatrain that I had thought about around a year ago, it reflects the current images of Dalamatia City and all the other places,
the urns of tombs
the beginning places and the path of the tree of life of ages past.

 

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14
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old.


"He will come to expose the false topography," Thats
right he will discover the ancient places using the NASA worldwind software which renders the bathymetric data of the sea floor in 3 dimensions. "the urns of the tombs will be opened." The NASA 3d images where used to find the ancients places where the ancient urns was discovered thus having verification Yea!




See how it reflects from different triangulations from different sources and makes the reality in the timeline and what occurs in the experience of the delivery of this because I think this is the reality the prophets and seers where looking at.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:51 pm

jimmo wrote:
Faithhead wrote:Has it gone too far to hope this is a Poe? :dunno:



It could be an
inadvertant poe due to unconscious incompetence with logical argument.

Our friend sevens may fall into this category as he thinks he's making a cogent argument but is, apparently, completely oblivious to the logical flaws therein.

http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP2/TP2A-16.HTML



Maybe, but there is one way to prove it, that's by going out the Persian Gulf on boat with the proper equipment and verify the city.

That's the only way, whether you like or not and that will the final judge of the argument, through a discovery and verification. I mean you reply the way do but you put nothing forward that is interesting or even thought provocative just the usual plain ol'e criticism.

Why I put up what I do is to see if this is correct and therefore quite happy to share it, so we can all witness the outcome.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:32 pm

You say that but your actions would apparently contradict your intent. If you genuinely want to see if this is correct, why do you constantly resist all the logical arguments and instead go jumping straight from some unsubstantiated fantasy book that is apparently devoid of any corroborating evidence to suggesting an expedition.

Nobody is going to follow you on such a large leap of faith. Furthermore, your beliefs and assertions will not gain any more validity through continual repetition.



People had faith in 1st and 2nd expedition so why not have faith in this eh!

Im putting up information because it could of use and benefit in case its crucial and Im showing my findings so people can see this how Im tracking this.

Im testing out the Urantia Book, a book you haven't even read nor researched so how do you know its fantasy and you're some scholar. How do you know that I am wrong?

Have you got some tangible evidence on the same level to disprove otherwise?? No!

Why are you always resisting what I post because you are unsure.

Anyway, It was always known that people wouldn't understand this, obviously your'e not wide enough to see further into it.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:39 pm

Thanks

Lucid for the video that was cool.

I was thinking B52 5+2=
7

ahahahahah

sevens

Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:58 pm

jimmo wrote:
sevens wrote:
Cool - ask them for funding


No money left
 



Oh dear - you mean the results from those expeditions didn't warrant further investment from any of the many scientific bodies out there? I wonder why that would be :)



The 2nd expedition was very limited in its budget and the only thing that could be investigated was the wall as discovered in the first expedition. It confirmed the Urantia information of the natural wall that is mentioned specifically. The mount to the North which is the Acropolis Hill was also confirmed but still has to be explored further. There is only so many people that read the Urantia Book.

 

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53
The law of the Sun and of Venus in strife,
Appropriating the spirit of prophecy:
Neither the one nor the other will be understood,
The law of the great Messiah will hold through the Sun.

 



Concerning the Babble in the last post, we just fulfilled a Nostradamus Quatrain! right here, right now!

Concerning the Babble in the last post, we just fulfilled a Nostradamus Quatrain! right here, right now!

Your very words fulfilled this part
"Neither the one nor the other will be understood," and if you like to read the next part, be my guest or is that to illogical for you?? Consider the prophetical nature of this journey and the thread and the question of whether Gods exists or not.

 

Your very words fulfilled this part "Neither the one nor the other will be understood," and if you like to read the next part, be my guest or is that to illogical for you?? Consider the prophetical nature of this journey and the thread and the question of whether Gods exists or not.

The following is about Dalamatia City, the Stone could be the Seven commands proof

 
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35
For the free city of the great Crescent sea,
Which still carries the stone in its stomach,
The English fleet will come under the drizzle
To seize a branch, war opened by the great one.



The crescent sea is the Persian Gulf "
Which still carries the stone in its stomach," The Stone is the Seven commands which lays in the submerged City.

The "To seize a branch, war opened by the great one." and the "The English fleet will come under the drizzle" may relate to an incident that happened between the British and the Iranian navies, close to the 1stSusa I revealed the places to them both and things changed instantly in the scenario. Maybe who knows, but it was sure interesting. By revealing the first two places may have activated something at that time.

I wonder if this following quatrain is also a reflection of this journey

 

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96
The rose upon the middle of the great world,
For new deeds public shedding of blood: is this new for old or some terrible judgment?
To speak the truth, one will have a closed mouth, (internet undoubtedly)
Then at the time of need the awaited one will come [color=#FF0000]late [/color]
.



"
Late" that would be right because I have to deal with all the posts.

ahahahah

 


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:58 am

Pappa wrote:
justwondering wrote:Cool, then you can pick up his shit.



We can let the thread fill with shit and he can play in it happily as much as he likes.



This research Is not shit,
Pappa

Its the real shit going on man, just be aware.

Everyone underestimates this but this its real and it will manifest as it is written.

The method used in this research is nothing different to Heinrich Schliemann who discovered the Lost city of Troy using the books of Homer matching the physical environment based on the words of Homer.

Nothing that different except more expanded in the beforehand knowledge.

Sevens


Re: I have a way to prove God!!!

Postby sevens on Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:25 am

Huston wrote:While I can accept the possibility of a submerged city in the Persian Gulf, THIS is NOT evidence for the existence of god.



No worries Huston, I can appreciate what you say but in my mind if a book that claims to be written by personalities of the Universal Kingdom realm and proves itself in the discovery of a city and a construct that no man alone can produce, not even in Hollywood, then it tells me that the book is authentic and true and does prove a God exist and who is personal.

I mean look at wha