The Targum from the
Beginnings
"on the run
thoughts" As it is written daily, the
path and soul of the journey
leading to great and fabulous discoveries with realizations and
directionalisation
entering into great things!
This is getting to be
the YAWN of the 21st century
The curious thing for me
that I found in the Egyptian Book of the Dead regarding this place.
In the following seems to suggest the time frame of the 21st Century
by relating to the 21st Pylon. With Horus (I feel Jesus) expressing
this in his own words.
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith Horus,
O Twenty-first pylon of the Still-Heart! I have made the way. I
know thee. I know thy name. I know the name of the goddess who
guardeth thee. "Sword that smiteth at the utterance of its own
name, stinking face, overthrower of him that approacheth her
flame" is thy name. Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger
of the god, thou guardest them. Amam is his name. He maketh the
ash trees not to grow, and the shenu trees not to blossom, and
preventeth copper from being found in the mountain. The Tchatcha
(Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods. Tchen, or Anthch (At), is
the name of the one at the door. Hetepmes is the name of another
there. Messep is the name of another there. Utchara is the name of
another there. Beq is the name of another there. Anp (Anubis) is
the name of another there.
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith Horus,
O Twenty-first (21st century) pylon of the Still-Heart!
Still of heart seems to be referring to people that are asleep
doing no research and keeping themselves ignorant and blind of
whats going on and just talk up there time saying silly comments.
again still of heart.
Also note the relation to Horus as I equate that to Jesus but
through the Egyptian culture. He is actualy expressing himself,
like the Jesus papers of the Egyptians.
I have made the way.
A way has been made to find this mystery of secret or to uncover a
secret perhaps an inevitable event seems to be related to the
seven Gods
I know thee. I know thy name. I know the name of the goddess
who guardeth thee. "Sword that smiteth at the utterance of its own
name, stinking face, overthrower of him that approacheth her
flame" is thy name.
There seems to be a guarding of a secret or of a mystery
Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger of the god, thou
guardest them.
Obviously the Angel/God is protecting a hidden thing or secret and
its related to a mystery similiar to the angel of the Garden at
the gate with a flaming sword. Protecting what lies there.
Amam is his name.
Amom is the avenger Gods name, and he must be related to some
retribution of some sort or avenging a past wrong perhaps related
to Horus.
The in the following there are clues that relate to a physical
location.
He maketh the ash trees not to grow,
Ash trees relate to the North of Egypt relating to the the area
before the phoenecians similiar to the cedars of Lebanon
(cedars) (Lebanon 1st Eden)
and the shenu trees not to blossom,
(acacias)(Egypt was affected)
and preventeth copper from being found in the mountain.
(To me the only place in the eastern Med that relates to Copper is
Cyprus.)
It also infers that you could walk there and obtain copper. That
was cut of by a flood. A catastrophe, a deluge.
The Tchatcha (Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods.
It sounds like the Gods in charge of this mystery are the Sevens
Gods who are represntative of this mystery and events in this day
and age. 21st century /Pylon. Links (Revelation 1:17 Seven
stars)(For me the Sevenfold Paradise Trinity or the Trinty of
Paradise.)
Tchen, or Anthch (At), is the name of the one at the door.
Hetepmes is the name of another there.
Messep is the name of another there.
Utchara is the name of another there.
Beq is the name of another there.
Anp (Anubis) is the name of another there.
(To me this relates to the seal of the mystery, the seal of the
sevens in charge of this mystery and are the same sevens as where
back then during the deluge. Like the seal on the vault or door.
that is loosened in the books and in physical discovery.)
It seems that Jesus represented as Horus speaks of the 21st Century
when man is Still of heart unable to see this mystery. This mystery
is related to some sort of refinement of which only the ones who
know the mystery will pass through the door. This mystery has a seal
but the seal is related to a place or a door to a vault or container
that contains evidence perhaps that was submerged back in time.
Obviously upon loosening the seal, the knowledge will lead us to
this discovery and have understanding of the discovery which could
have an effect on all mankind!!
maybe.
We have to see.
Thats the feeling I get.
In addition in response to the no evidence remark. If there was
nothing there they wouldn't be going there for a second time.
line 132: 6. The personal
viewpoint of Paul of Tarsus. And it should be recorded that Mithraism was
the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little
dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be
regarded by still later Christians as the "word of God." Such
well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of
their writings by later-day successors.
extract
And this is the long story of the teachings of Machiventa Melchizedek on
Urantia. It is nearly four thousand years since this emergency Son of
Nebadon bestowed himself on Urantia, and in that time the teachings of the
"priest of El Elyon, the Most High God," have penetrated to all races and
peoples. And Machiventa was successful in achieving the purpose of his
unusual bestowal; when Michael made ready to appear on Urantia, the God
concept was existent in the hearts of men and women, the same God concept
that still flames anew in the living spiritual experience of the manifold
children of the Universal Father as they live their intriguing temporal
lives on the whirling planets of space.
Maybe I should go on about Christian religions too much and just stick to my
research. Lest I fall into the trap of being judgemental myself.
There is no danger in religion's becoming more and more of a private
matter--a personal experience--provided it does not lose its motivation
for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many
secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds,
diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together
with urbanization and mechanization.
Man's greatest spiritual jeopardy consists in partial progress, the
predicament of unfinished growth: forsaking the evolutionary religions of
fear without immediately grasping the revelatory religion of love. Modern
science, particularly psychology, has weakened only those religions which
are so largely dependent upon fear, superstition, and emotion.
Transition is always accompanied by confusion, and there will be little
tranquillity in the religious world until the great struggle between the
three contending philosophies of religion is ended:
1. The spiritistic belief (in a providential Deity) of many religions.
2. The humanistic and idealistic belief of many philosophies.
3. The mechanistic and naturalistic conceptions of many sciences.
And these three partial approaches to the reality of the cosmos must
eventually become harmonized by the revelatory presentation of religion,
philosophy, and cosmology which portrays the triune existence of spirit,
mind, and energy proceeding from the Trinity of Paradise and attaining
time-space unification within the Deity of the Supreme.
For me, Its the experience in this research of Eden and the great
harmonisation of it. I feel I know what this extract is talking about. It
really is the personal experience of the harmonisation of the mystery as
it unfolds its physical reality in time and space and in accordance to the
what is written and prophesied.
Time space continuum process of unfoldment. Its also related to everyone's
personal experience in the daily walk on every level.
I was wandering are
there old active Volcanos in around Ireland or in the Celtic coast. Is the land
mass of Igneous Rock and that is part of an existing island group. Like remnants
where it has a large Volcano on it and rises steeply from the sea.
Atlantis must of been in an Volcanic area that must of had steam fissures close
by, explaining the hot and cold springs on the acropolis hill.
Plus the Volcano mountain would still be evident and must be a large mountain.
200 meters is not a huge difference in height in sea level change. A large
Volcanic mountain should still be evident like Mt Olympus in Cyprus, something
like that, a big mountain. Also the island must look upside down like.
Also it would have to be near other civilisations or close by the heart of it?
Also it would have to be in an earthquake prone area as according to Plato the
waters changes from Hot to cold
Also I found an reference in Enoch relating to change of waters similar to Plato
and speaking about the same valley where the Deluge struck and also describes
Volcanic action and effect to a catastrophe.
Here is a link to the Book of Enoch I thought related to the same place as what
Plato speaks of which is an Egyptian record, translated.
And surprisingly speaks in the some context from the Egyptian Book of the Dead
in my past post. Again the same story but different culture, all in around
Cyprus, the Eastern Med.
I think that is unusuall, but why the significants? Why are the scriptures
relating to seven?
Is it the tie in with the ancients or something.
What is the mystery behind the use of Seven in all the books? Is that a hint to
take note of something relating to seven. I dont know? Would anyone out there
have the answer? What is the significants? or are they using seven so at the
right time its use and signifcants becomes relevant to the case of the end??
I was checking the following verses in Revelation. Checkout how many
sevens there are in verse 20
19 Write the things which
thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall
be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right
hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars
are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven
candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Also note in verse 19 God encourages a Testamony to be written
beforehand, before the event, like an open book mystery, similar to
what's happening today with this research, all beforehand predicting an
event and outcome at an location where it all began. All in type.
Also note the Mystery of the Sevens stars. Is this the Mysteries of
Mysteries as mentioned in the Essene papers? I think so, I think its one
and same mystery.
So again we have this direct relationship in both records of Jesus and
Seven or is that Jesus and the seven paths.
The mystery of the Sevens stars must be related to the Ancient truth,
the Ancient of Days as related to in the stars (reflective). Consider
the Mazzaroth mentioned in
Job
38 and its connection to Orion, Paladies and Acturus. They are all 7
star constellations and the stories relating to them are reflective of
the same truth then, which is the same truth coming to pass in reality
and is the same truth that is driving this exploration of the truth.
The Sevens angels of the churches is related to the same Sethite truth
that was maintained in ages past and is still with us today and can be
seen in all cultures through there religions in one way or another,
especially through the use of seven or sevenfold truth or representation
of it.
However as we get closer to the discovery of his testament on top of the
hill, this truth (Jesus and sevens truth, one in the same truth.) forms
its own conjunction through the completion of the mystery of the Sevens
stars.
If you look in the following in revelation 11 you find this at the time
of discovery. Here is work I did about 2 months ago.
Sevenfold temple
Revelation:11
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel
stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and
them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple
leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and
the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
reed like unto a rod: a reed, like a life line that is
connected to a R.O.V, the rod, the measuring stick, measuring the
temple, the temple of God, and the altar: Measure the temple, around
the altar area there should be spring outlet close by and canals close
by. But the court which is without the temple leave out, [1] and
measure it not; leave out the courtyard there's nothing of value
there. Whilst fascinating its probably to damaged. the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Holy city=1Eden of Cyprus.
We could be in the actual moment of prophecy concerning this place
now.
In the same chapter where the "Ark of his Testament" is discovered,
there is a response from Heaven, as an endorsement of support and also
marks a time of change. Even though it speaks of a temple in Heaven. I
say as in Heaven on Earth where this location is representative of the
Holy temple on Earth (the beginning and the end) and actually Enoch
said that this this place will be used for judgement.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen
in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and
voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
the temple of God was opened in heaven: The actual temple on the
Acropolis Hill was studied and its mystery was opened. Its a conjoint
effort of Heaven and Earth, The temple in heaven and the original
temple on Earth. there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: Near the
Altar as discovered "The Ark of his testament" The Evidence, the
proof, yeah!!. The discovery activating the seal in the temple and as
a response, heaven activates and responds as described in the
following: there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an
earthquake, and great hail. Heaven responds to the discovery with all
kinds of things.
Upon the great discovery and realisation the Seventh Angels makes the
call. I believe the seventh Angel is a representative of the Trinity
of Paradise.
Revelations 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe
cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great
voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the
kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever
and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on
their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We
give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to
come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast
reigned. 18
Also continuing the Seventh Angels track we see in the following that
the Seventh angels calls the end of the Mystery, the mystery of the
stars or the Mystery of mysteries.
10And I saw another
mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a
rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and
his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book
open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the
earth,
The Seventh Angel.
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he
had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
A voice that filled the whole Earth.
4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about
to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up
those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
John instructed not e write this particular vision as this was set for a
new revelation in the future.
10And I saw another mighty
angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was
upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as
pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he
set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, 3
And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had
cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to
write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those
things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth
lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever
and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the
earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things
which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
The call of the finish of the great mystery.
But in the days of the
voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery
of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the
prophets.
We are in the days of the Seventh Angel right now. As we all explore
this and crack the mystery heaven will respond the end of this mystery.
It seems to me that upon discovery of the Ark of the Testament there is
a response of the seventh Angel declaring that the final mystery is
complete or the Test is complete and judgment begins and an event
happens that effects all of us.
This what I feel is the mysteries of mysteries.
I believe that this mystery had to be in an open book scenario all
beforehand of the conclusion. Also it is representative of the Test as
in the following
Rev1:9
What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven
churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto
Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia,
and unto Laodicea.
Well I do send my research to the churches and expose it but the
churches wont consider this, at all. Well I have seen no proof of
that.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned,
I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven
candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down
to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head
and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes
were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if
they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars:
and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: ("The Test")
and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Reference to the test beforehand. The3 double edge sword, The Test, the
decision, the parting of the ways. Just remember Jesus commands, that's
all I say.
In the following is the declaration.
3 Blessed is he that
readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those
things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Written beforehand.
4 John to the seven
churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him
which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven
Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who
is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the
prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and
priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever
and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and
they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail
because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning
and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is
to come, the Almighty.
Basically the end of the mystery and the stage is set for a new world as
expressed in all the books. But one must be worthy for the new world and
faith and belief is the requirement.
Note that all has been revealed in accordance to the mandate given in
revelations as. Its an open book where upon the mystery has always been
there but it is in the day of technology that we can piece the mystery
together.
This testament is an virtual open book mystery and was always meant to
be. It has nothing to do with money or publishers and sales.
Its is truly a book on the run of Man, God and the last mystery before
the second coming.
in my view.
I will know whether this Testamony is accurate by the events that may
unfold upon the 2nd expedition off Cyprus.
Its a test a refinement of what's truth and what's not. A demonstration
of Gods faithfulness in word and in action.
This will be the only sign.
happy research.
sevens
If anyone has anything to add, please feel free.
The dead sea Scrolls, "The Test, the double edge sword" 4Q215
"...and the stressful constraint and the ordeal of the pit(1stEden) and
they shall be refined by them to become the elect of the
righteousness....
because of his loving kindness.
I have come unto
thee. I have drawn nigh to behold thy beauties (thy beneficient
goodness). My hands are [extended] in adoration of thy name of "Maat."
I have come. I have drawn nigh unto [the place where] the
cedar-tree existeth not, where the acacia tree doth not put forth
shoots, and where the ground produceth neither grass nor herbs.
Because it is submerged and hidden until now.
Now I have entered into the habitation which is hidden, Made
preparation for discovery and discovered the thing that is hidden.
and I hold converse with Set.
Deals with the Lucifer rebellion as prophesied and is connection
to the discovery, through Judgement.
My protector advanced to me, covered was his face.... on the
hidden things.
could this mean an R.O.V. with lights and camera physically on the
hidden things cutting something out of the mountain. The actual
submarine submerging to the site..
He entered into the house of Osiris, he saw the hidden things
which were therein.
Entering a vault near the altar in the temple and discovered the
ark of his testament and there in lays remnants of what was there.
The Tchatchau Chiefs of the Pylons were in the form of Spirits.
Is the endorsement or the response from Heaven as prophecied in
Revelations upon discovery of the "Ark of his Testament". I think
its the same message from a related culture.
All part of the seven mystery or the mystery of the Sevens Stars.
regards
Sevens
Mystery of the Seven Parallel.
Personally knowing a
little more than what is present thus far. I think Cyprus is where the action
is. Undoubtedly, its just in all the BC books and is revealing themselves in
tandem to the discovery and further discoveries of Cyprus.
A conjunction of the highest levels, there is no place on earth where have this
phenomena is occurring before our eyes and on the run as we move forward.
All I'm doing is following the Eden track in the scripts. There is
many things that I look at and curious to see if it fits and is
consistent with all things that I know. When I speak about the
kingdom of Heaven, its a spiritual Kingdom where our soul will
reside in another body that is part of the universal kingdom of
personality and spirit.
The very Kingdom Jesus speaks about and demonstrated in his
resurrection and in various appearances. Nothing do with Aliens in
the space/time continuum. However as you know I do try and find
clues that fit in which lead me to the Urantia revelation and in
that, I find many things which lead to me to other things that I
reveal.
The Bible and all the scripts is the interaction of Heaven/infinity
and time/space, of God and Man. Its all about the spiritual
interaction of man and lets say, the Father. Its about Jesus' life,
the relationship of The Father and Man. But its a personal journey
for each person.
I feel in my search for Eden there is a huge message for man which
is really important. I share and reveal my research in case its true
and its effects man in that he should know and consider it. In my
doing this it becomes a virtual living reality Testamony unfolding
in what may become the biggest event ever in mankind that involves
The Kingdom of Heaven. Literally before our eyes.
This ancient secret/mystery could only come from the scriptures, all
of them. Not just the Bible exclusive. Every piece of the puzzle
fits as we move forward to the event and as we can piece together
looking back in time. It becomes mans Testamony to the event, all
before hand and in faith. Its the test of faith in the scriptures
and the voice of The Father in this, as you piece the information
together and combine. But you have to seek the path and that's
between God and man.
Everything seems to match prophecy of today's timeline.
Jesus himself reveals many things that all point to Eden, direct.
The discovery of Eden and what it represents, is in the books. The
key word in this all is Seven or sevenfold or seventh, to me this
represents The Trinity of Paradise.
What I posted from the Urantia Book is that kind of harmonization
that is occurring of all levels knowledge. Its is a conjunction in
space/time that leads straight to the Trinity of Paradise, the
highest levels in Heaven. This whole conjunction is direct from
Paradise direct to man. Its a gift from Paradise.
1 year ago I proclaimed it was the Paradise Trinity but since then,
I have discovered it goes direct to the top levels of Heaven itself.
Like finding un chartered territory of this journey as man explores
this new experience of revelation on a new level. Its the keys to
heaven, of Paradise. This is a huge discovery in theology you know,
bigger than reformation. This is bigger than any revelation man has
seen right here, right now.
And these three
partial approaches to the reality of the cosmos must eventually
become harmonized by the revelatory presentation of religion,
philosophy, and cosmology which portrays the triune existence of
spirit, mind, and energy proceeding from the Trinity of Paradise
and attaining time-space unification within the Deity of the
Supreme.
quote:
energy proceeding from
the Trinity of Paradise and attaining time-space unification
within the Deity of the Supreme.
The Trinity of Paradise.
Incredible, this is exactly what I experience when I discover a
piece to the puzzle. I know this harmonization and understand it.
This all happens in my search for Eden in the scripts. Truly
amazing. and finding this after the events all beforehand, that I
should write and to discover later that I was right? revelatory.
Sevenfold Books Research
There will be representative that will come here and when it happens
there will represent a huge change remembering that we are in the
last throws of the rebellion. This will be the last of it, like,
this is the striking moment in time. People who completely reject
this will not be considered in what is to come. That's what I am
reading.
Remember Jesus or Michael of Nebadon is directly one of there own,
he is a Paradise Son, a son of the Trinity. The Trinity of Paradise,
They are here to deal with the system that is responsible for the
death of Jesus and it will be held accountable for that grievous
mistake and that's why a pathway has been created through Jesus
through his life and his message is that the ones with faith, the
Faith sons and all those that believe, even halfhearted will be
protected in this time and throughout what is to come in preparation
of the new world.
That's what I think and that feeling seems to be getting stronger in
my personal confirmation.
Anyway I thought I would share this with you to give you a better
understanding of what I think.
The aim is not to judge others but let the Ancients of Days judge what is
acceptable or not in the Kingdom of heaven.
The most acceptable thing is Love for one another and learning to understand
each other. Through the witness of your own love for another then I feel you
attract people to your inner thoughts and belief and they start emanate there
own love for one another through your example. from within.
Anyway the new world will be based on this principle which encompasses truth ,
discovery, sharing knowledge not keeping it. Not judgeing and excluding.
Transparent and open.
Isaiah 42 25 I have raised up
one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he
call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the
potter treadeth clay.
26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime,
that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there
is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
27 The first shall say to Zion, Behold, behold them: and I will give to
Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.
To me it speaks of the current time line. Its an interesting read.
luke 13
18 Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like ? and whereunto
I resemble it? 19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took,
and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the
fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.
Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not
come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto
blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that
heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a
beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and
quake:)
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the
heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written [6]
in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made
perfect,
and
1Peter 6:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of
men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy
priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus
Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a
chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be
confounded.
7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: [1] but unto them which be
disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the
head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble
at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a
peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called
you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
and
Psalm 65 Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow
be performed.
2 O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come.
3 Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge
them away.
4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee,
that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of
thy house, even of thy holy temple.
and
Job6:5 By terrible things in righteousness wilt thou answer us, O God of
our salvation; who art the confidence of all the ends of the earth, and of
them that are afar off upon the sea:
8 Oh that I might have my request; and that God would grant me the thing that
I long for!
9 Even that it would please God to destroy me; that he would let loose his
hand, and cut me off!
10 Then should I yet have comfort; yea, I would harden myself in sorrow: let
him not spare; for I have not concealed the words of the Holy One.
11 What is my strength, that I should hope? and what is mine end, that I
should prolong my life?
12 Is my strength the strength of stones? or is my flesh of brass
13 Is not my help in me? and is wisdom driven quite from me?
and
Psalms 22
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping
me, and from the words of my roaring?
2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night
season, and am not silent.
3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not
confounded.
Isaiah 24 Behold, the Lord
maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and
scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the
servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with
the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as
with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath
spoken this word.
4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away,
the haughty people of the earth do languish.
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they
have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting
covenant.
6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are
desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
7 The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merryhearted do sigh.
8 The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy
of the harp ceaseth.
9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to
them that drink it.
10 The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man
may come in.
11 There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth
of the land is gone.
12 In the city is left desolation, and the gate is smitten with destruction.
13 When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there
shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the
vintage is done.
14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the
Lord, they shall cry aloud from the sea.
15 Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires, even the name of the Lord
God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
16 From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the
righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous
dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very
treacherously.
17 Fear, and the pit, and the
snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear
shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit
shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.
19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth
is moved exceedingly.
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like
a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall
fall, and not rise again.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the
host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the
earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit,
and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of
hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients
gloriously.
Jeremiah 15 O Lord, thou knowest:
remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away
in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke.
16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy
and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts.
17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because
of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.
18 Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be
healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail
19 Therefore thus saith the Lord, If thou return, then will I bring thee
again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious
from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but
return not thou unto them.
20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall
fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with
thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the Lord.
21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem
thee out of the hand of the terrible.
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Get the picture, the message,
The testing period is now not later.
4 Blessed is the man
whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may
dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of
thy house, even of thy holy temple.
In essence as I read these scripts and attempt to define the truth
further.
I find that Jesus is making all of us a very simple offer of trust
and faith in his words.
Thats all.
Its a simple offer from Jesus and the prophets.
Its is between Man and God and is open to all manner of brothers and
sisters no matter what they do or pursue. There is no division in
this Kingdom and all manner of men will be treated with respect and
on the same level.
Even if your against what I say. Just in your background thoughts
just consider a small inner prayer within your heart of trust and
faith.
Personally I wont everyone in this forum to have a chance opf
success if this truly a pending situation.
I would suggest in the next 2 months to consider this probation
period that is set to finish soon.
I desire to speak to everyone after the event. I don't want anyone
no matter who, to loose their life if this is true what I'm seeing.
Even if you don't believe or your pride is great, don't worry about
pride and who is right and who is wrong, its doesn't matter. Just
have a bit of belief and just consider it. You don't have tell
anyone for fear of whatever. If you make that inner acknowledgement
then that decision is set in stone and you will be fine
No worries at all. Nothing to worry about. You will have peace and
be protected.
For those who reject completely. I say pull your finger out and read
again, everything because your knowledge will come to naught and
there will be nothing to save you. Because when the Earth changes
happen after Judgement, the Spirit of the Lord and the faith sons
and others who believe, even halfheartedly, will be taken to place
of protection only to descend to a clean earth, the new world run by
essentially, the Jesus message.
Anyway I wish all the best. This message is not a hard one, it
doesn't take you individuality away and does not take your
sovereignty away.
Its a really simple easy message. Just consider it.
regards
sevens
I know Elmer's message as very solid message and does pull punches. But don't
estimate what he is saying because essentially its true and is in line with the
signs of the time. Now.
Before anyone blows him off, Just consider for a moment that he is right, I
wouldn't reject his message of salvation because it is consistent with all the
research within and without the Bible that point to the great and only sign of
real change.
Elmer comes from a line of fundamentalist Christians I think? I know his message
is brutal enough to turn any off but he is not here to be friend, he is here to
get a basic message across that should not be ignored.
Believe me with what is to come don't blow it off because. The on coming
Judgement will be brutal, extremely brutal where all knowledge outside of the
truth will fail. So if it takes this kind of approach to make people think
rather than falling into the pit. Then let it be so.
Elmer's is here to do a job and that is to assist man in this manifestation of a
believer trying to help man in this perplexing period.
consider all things, don't reject out of hand, it will be a mistake.
Its a simple message of trust in Gods words and faith, that is the test before
Judgement. Also everything will seem normal before judgement (like man screwing
man...normal!) until the call, don't get sucked into the "She'll be right mate
business" or everything is nice, pleasant and happy. Its only the calm before
the storm. Also things aren't normal on this planet and not everyone is happy
particularly the ones who have no benefit of what we have today.
Particularly the poor who are inflicted by rubbish leaders and who have only God
to appeal to because man is an ass towards his fellow brother and couldn't give
a damn except for himself and his rubbish thoughts. Its not what he says because
most of the time its just a big lie, all crap. But its his background thoughts,
you know what I mean and the crap within those thoughts.
This is where the problem lays.
Most of mans words and thoughts are evil preoccupied on how to screw the his
brother. Look at the world around us??? Like the stock market, the all time
bloodbath.
This problem will be dealt with soon.
Who is happy? hardly anyone regardless of technology. Not many people.
regards
sevens
Hi Elmer.
The quote you presented. I know that as a true experience. When my family see me
its the roll your eyes experience.
But I don't care because I know what is to come is true and revealed and
endorsed by all the scripts including Jesus' own words.
Really take note people, serious no joke just be aware of yourselves, reflect
and prepare. Its a simple message and it wont be fun or happy. Like I said
before it will be brutal. The whole experience and the faith believers will be
spared. That's why we express our own brutality in love for one another to jolt
people to reflect upon themselves and where there at in life.
Remembering that the System that murdered Jesus A paradise Trinity Son is in for
a reckoning as Paradise are upset with what happened and have come to wipe out
the system forever. This is real retribution and the rebellion will be over.
FOREVER.
Justice may be slow in the universal courts of the Ancient of Days. But when
justice comes it is sure and we are in the midst of it.
It will be no mucking operation where Paradise, The Trinity of Paradise are
serious, real serious.
Its time for thinking, real self thinking of which side of the plumb line you
stand. Its the parting of the ways happening now.
You're right, One thing for sure I will know if I'm right when the
R.O.V is above the acropolis Hill and hopefully unlocks the mystery.
If I'm right it may be an event, if I'm wrong well III leave from
here and wont bother anyone again and put it down to creative
thoughts.
But so far so good. You know there is a real energy about the
location and the information connected to it. Understanding the soul
of it gives you real insight into it. I feel the temple in Jerusalem
was built in type to the location, 1st Eden. That's what I reckon it
is Sarah for sure. I think all the information in the bible is about
now and the location. Actually I think its Sion, the bible refers to
it as a location to the North of Jerusalem, I think Eden, maybe you
could help me there.
What I'm promoting is goodwill amongst all people, all religions, no
exclusivity at all. But I think the Jesus message is a very strong
key.
The whole thing wrapped around Eden is just incredible the levels of
intelligence in this is a revelation of the Father for sure,
undoubtedly. In physical and in word. I have no doubt its all in the
Torah. I I'd be a real good read.
Everything that is happening is a space/time unification of the
Trinity of Paradise. Being a student of the Urantia Book and all
other books I understand the experience. Its like a spiritual
connection a path of personal revelatory experience of the Father
and seeing his handy work over time as the reality of ones faith in
the will of God manifests. As best as I can describe it.
You know I started this kind of posting on your forum about 2 months
ago sharing my discoveries. I proclaimed the test scenario of faith
connected to what lays on the Acropolis Hill in accordance to the
scripts and expressing my feelings about this place and its
significant to mankind. Revealed all. Last night, I was studying
Isaiah and discovered much of what's happening and reflecting on my
activities and reading about it, everything that has occurred.
Reading about the past in the present. A time space connection of
infinity, wouldn't that be. A reality scenario read about and
actually lived out the experience and read about in the present,
identifying key markers that you can identify with in your own life
experience of the current and distant past. Its a bridge in the
space/time continuum to infinity. I suppose?? Its is a different
thing to see. Its what religion was all about originally.
Tell me I'm wrong!! The Test scenario, beforehand, the message of
glad tidings among all man and its manifestation at this time during
the test and before the end, how its communicated, out of nowhere it
comes, so many things that fit the reality. That's all I speak
about. A living reality of I feel immense proportions, I think its a
demonstration of his righteousness.
I found 3 areas that speak about right now and the beforehand
revealment and the test period and then what happens. Its all
revealed, its all up there anyone can approach me, no worries.
Sarah, I'm quite happy to share with you, what I found last night,
highlighted in blue, I have more than what I posted which is a
personal witness in this experience. I have no problem with that.
Isaiah 44: 26 That confirmeth
the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that
saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye
shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:
Through a discovery and the revelation it provides in the search and
exploration of Eden in the scripts, all of them. The discovery and the
information related to it will bring new light and will enhance the truth
further bringing all religions together.
27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:
This infers great earth changes on the planet, it also could mean an actual
resurrection of the location (Atlantis Rising) Very speclatory but anything is
possible these days. Especially if the second coming occurs or something like
that. If this occurs this could fulfill Cayces prophecy Atlantis rising
literally but in the new world. People who reject will not see this. from what
I see.
28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my
pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple,
Thy foundation shall be laid.
Cyrus helps the restoration of the Second temple of Israel right.
Cyrus, very similar to Cyprus. Also Cyrus is a Persian right, Who is the
leader of the Cyprus/Atlantis project. Where does his lineage, come from?
Looks to me that the new temple will be built upon the wasted places. Well to
me this all speaks of Cyprus and the location of Eden/Atlantis City. That is
the original stone temple from 38,000 years ago, the beginning and The father
is resurrecting that and the truth of it through a new expansion in religion
that combines all the truth from every book that is relevant to the case.
Its all a case of confirming the word in the bible in this Isaiah 44,
confirming the entities involved on all levels with names and motives of the
Heaven around this place. All the characters are involved its a foreseen saga
and every sequence is playing itself out. If this is correct. This is of the
highest levels from the Trinity of Paradise, has to be. That's I share this so
I can be corrected if Im wrong and also to give mankind some help if it
requires.
Its the Testamony of discovery in word and in the physical reality that
matches. I believe this is the mystery of the Seven Stars or the mystery of
mysteries.
I just realised this as I reflect back in the past and see the events that have
unfolded coming to this realisation now. I feel its a space/time unification of
realisation of the past and present. The events and reality seem to fit in
actual sequence written and foreseen in the BC era. These events today seem to
match, if this is correct this is a new revelation which way beyond and is
confirmed in the scriptures.
A space time mystery where space/time is gapped through revelation in touching
the world of the infinity/eternal. Something like that, trying to understand
this further.
This might give light to other things that come to mind. III explore those
thoughts and see what it unfolds.
Here some ideas I had as I went through the following link in relation to this
reality of Eden.
Speculation, with a strong sense.
I also believe that the dimensions of Ezekiel's Temple that he saw in his vision
matches the Cyprus location in dimension including all the features of the
Acropolis Hill. The outer circumference dimension matches the submerged land
mass above water including Cyprus, approximately 1500 miles, its an amazing
match.
I also wouldn't be surprised that in the new world the Morontia temple built in
space will descend on this spot, on the location above water in the new world. I
believe this is where Sion is, Zion in the North of Jerusalem.
I'm only having a stab at it. III know whether I'm wrong or right, soon ok. This
interpretation is subject to change and alteration. Don't hold it against me,
its only research and exploration into reality and events in a timeline.
I think some of thos links in Peru are just fantastic really confirms much in my
research of the tranferance of knowl;edge.
It really connected much more for me. Regarding the Peruvian faces. Do they go
back around 12000 years or so?
All the best
sevens
posted
07-16-2006 06:35 AM
Hi
I was going through the Isaiah Series looking for time markers and I
noticed this
Isaiah 41 25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and
upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the
great slaughter, when the towers fall.
Note the towers falling.
then in the next verse the mention of the Sevenfold information and
its association with a hypothesis, a time marker,
26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the
sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of
seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his
people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
then in Isaiah 33, note the mention of the scribe in relation to the
towers?? Its seems very obvious of whom the scriptures speak of.
18 Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where
is the receiver where is he that counted the towers?
Was that about Bin Laden? a scribe who measured the towers for an
evil purpose? Is that a time reference marker, a clue of the times
that we are in.? Also note the Plural in towers , speaking of 2
towers not one.
I Enoch 99:6
Woe to you, ye perverted in heart, who are watchful to obtain
an accurate knowledge of Evil, and to discover terrors.
No one shall assist you.
All paints the same story about terrorism and the time line.
Isaiah 24 16 From
the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to
the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me!
the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the
treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.
17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant
of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of
the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the
midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from
on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
Ive been going through the Isaiah Books, all of them.
Im starting to realise that all of them in essence speak of this
timeline. I really getting the feeling.
11 Ye made also a ditch between the two walls for the water of
the old pool: but ye have not looked unto the maker thereof, neither
had respect unto him that fashioned it long ago.
Eden the discovery of it, who fashioned it. How it is received. No
one sees the significants of it.
regards
sevens
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Hi Ishtar,
How are you? well I hope. I enjoyed your posts and the various bible references.
There all good and certainly matches what I finding.
The past couple of days Ive been going through the Isaiah papers. Its been a
great experience. Ive been reading them from the prospective of the Eden, the
location and the last days, uncovering much. Even though scholars think Isaiah
is forecasting Jesus, which he does. I feel there is a duality that also points
to this current timeline and confirmed many things that I have expressed without
knowing this.
Bizarre as it seems, I recognise many things that are personal that I have
witnessed in my own timeline and discovering the post about the scribe and two
towers in addition the Towers mentioned in the same paper with the sevenfold
prophecy and association with the breach proceeding, it seems more than a
coincidence. Strange!
I also noticed many references of proclamation of beforehand of the event, of a
message that burns hearts which I believe is the test of the soul, before the
event but then I noticed that no hears nor believes at all, there a few in the
Isle (America) that do respond with good tidings towards one another in light of
this message but the rest...nothing at all! I cant believe it.
II'd say that would be right, however what people say and think can be 2
different things. May be deep in there soul, people are considering these things
but I hope they emit the right decision.
I also found a verse that gives you an estimation of how many people will
survive which is 10%. Can you believe it 10 percent!!! What a disaster for non
belief and rejection of the Father and his simple message. Something so simple,
the easiest thing to do with a kind offer that takes no soveriegnty away. Yet in
spite of this man flat out rejects.
If this forecast is correct man is in for a disaster. What a routing that is for
this planet.
10% I cant believe it.
Come on mankind, just a litte prayer, even halfhearted. Thats all it takes if
this information correct and on target. Even if Im wrong its still a good test
of the soul to get his act together.
Anyway, I think Isaiah speaks nearly all about the last times with key markers
of the timeline that we can identify today.
Some people come down on me a bit. Thats OK I understand because I say is
brutal, its not a nice message. But that what Im reading from ancient documents,
that has been preserved for thousands of years in our past. Although there may
be inconsistancy here and there but essentially it should be respected and at
least investigated for whatever reasons becuase in many ways it could be dead
on. Literaly.
At those kinds of Odds of 10% maybe one has to be brutal in what one says.
Instead IId rather show my research, so people can view it themselves and make
up there own mind up.
Personaly, I wouldnt under estimate this information. What was just an adventure
in the scripts with desire is turning out to be something else of a saga, a
desperate saga for mankind. Like condition red for his soul.
Here is the piece out of Isaiah
Isaiah 6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his
hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
The understanding of this given by God.
7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips;
and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
Self improvement from the information.
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who
will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
For sure we all go and proclaim, why not! Its a journey and a half.
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand
not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
They dont underdstnad the message and regard this like all other information.
People will not hear nor understand this.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut
their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and
understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted
without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly
desolate,
12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in
the midst of the land.
13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be
eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they
cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.
In this piece I looking at
time markers. In the following extract I noticed 70 years as a
timeline
I noticed the term Harlot is used. I wonder why its used? Anyway I
also noticed that The Urantia Book came through in 1934 and the
discovery of Eden was in 2004. That's a seventy year time period
from induction which would of been seen as questionable from
traditional religion. Looked down upon. The
14 Howl, ye ships of
Tarshish: for your strength is laid waste.
A change is apparent in relation to what is about to occur.
15 And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be
forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after
the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.
Speculation, The Urantia book came through in 1934 discovery of
1stEden 2004 that's 70 years difference. So we have a discovery 70
years apart and today we have Eden in the scriptures and the
message, a thought.
16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been
forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be
remembered.
The Urantia Book, being not considered and frowned upon and 70
years later it is largely forgotten about, until it begins to
shine by the discovery of Eden in 2004, 70 years later. And
proclaimed to jog peoples memory or to introduce the book.
17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years,
that the Lord will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and
shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon
the face of the earth.
The Lord himself will visit Tyre, visit Earth which at that time
will be corrupt. Apparently a world that will have disbelief in
this and largely will forget God and not be interested a type of
fornication.
18 And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the
Lord: it shall not be treasured nor laid up; for her merchandise
shall be for them that dwell before the Lord, to eat sufficiently,
and for durable clothing.
Suggests that there will be a reversal in the world where the
treasure that man strives for today will be used for practical
purposes in the new world. It wont be treasured or kept away, it
will be shared. Thats the feeling I get.
Also is this the king "according to the days of one king:" Is
Enoch the king note the 7th week, the Urantia Book 70 years ago
from 1934 and the book that led to the discovery of Eden.
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the Seventh Week a perverse
generation shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its
deeds perverse. During its completion, the righteous shall
be selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness;
and to them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine
respecting every part of his whole creation,
also
1 Enoch 104:10 Another mystery also I point out. To the
righteous and the wise shall be given books of joy, of
integrity, and of great wisdom. To them shall books be given, in
which they shall believe;
Is this a time marker of the current timeline. There seems to be
forming all characters to the saga.
Also note that 2nd Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70A.D. a 70
year difference from the death of Jesus and then note: the discovery
of Eden seventy years after the beginning of the Urantia Book in
1934, the Sevenfold doctrine and mentioned in Isaiah and in Enoch. I
find that a match in the historic timeline of similar events but one
of resurrection of the temple of today rather than destruction.
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you,
this darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined
for you, until the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will
save you and bring you back again into the garden,into
the house of light you long for, in which there is no
darkness*. I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of
heaven."
40 days test,
direct reference to the complete journey to the ancient places.
Undoubtedly.
Hi Ideopraxist
Un real Ideopraxist, unbelievable!! to say the least. I really liked
the piece you submitted from Ezra. Seems very relevant to the case.
The verse below really spoke to me not to mention all the others.
[22] If then I have
found favor before thee, send the Holy Spirit into me, and I
will write everything that has happened in the world from the
beginning, the things which were written in thy law, that men may
be able to find the path, and that those who wish to live in the
last days may live."
The mystery unlocked beforehand predicting the near future through
the scripts in recognition to the time markers embedded.
[34] If you, then, will rule over your minds and discipline
your hearts, you shall be kept alive, and after death you shall
obtain mercy.
The appeal of the test for personal self correction of the soul,
the openness to God in your heart, like a friend. Show glad
tidings and share the information.
[35] For after death the judgment will come, when we shall
live again; and then the names of the righteous will become
manifest, and the deeds of the ungodly will be disclosed.
The prize for faith is surviving impending earth changes from the
effect of Judgement.
[36] But let no one come to me now, and let no one seek me for
forty days."
A couple of weeks ago I
presented the test scenario before judgement and shortly after I put
40 day period on it and to discover this now and 40 day period where
no one seeks God is match to the 40 day test proclaimed 10 days ago
I think.
I was inspired by the fact that Jesus was in the wilderness for 40
days ,a test and the Israelites were in the wilderness for 40 years,
a testing period before being led into the promised land.
So I equated that 40 day time period with this current test before
being led into the promised land. To find this in Ezra of a 40 days
testing period of the soul is like a match and is a demonstration of
this time phenomena of proceeding out of the mouth and being to led
to scripture after the fact that confirms what was said, beforehand
upon discovery. I'm kind of thinking that making that proclamation
was something that was set in stone or nailed in place by the
Blacksmith mentioned in Isaiah
Its so bizarre it must be a sign that its the right pathway to this
place.
Then when I read this
[39] Then I opened
my mouth, and behold, a full cup was offered to me; it was full of
something like water, but its color was like fire.
Like a coal given from the throne of the temple as mentioned in
Isaiah, Like knowledge and understanding of the Mystery
[40] And I took it and drank; and when I had drunk it,
my heart
poured forth understanding, and wisdom increased in my breast, for
my spirit retained its memory;
By studying it and being led by the Father through the scripts you
begin to unravel it over time and it begins to piece together in a
picture of a scenario.
[41] and my mouth was opened, and was no longer closed.
Couldn't stop talking about it because of the ongoing serious of
discoveries by myself and now by others joining in the quest for
mankind.
Fantastic Ideopraxist thanks for your post, I found so much in that.
Then finding this and consider this whole work is really a testamant
written before and during the 40 day testing period and Ezra says a
book will be written in that time and will be a testament in the
future world. The same time period and reality that are happening
now seems to fit the reality as spoken about. The ending of the 40
day test
[42] And the Most
High gave understanding to the five men, and by turns they wrote
what was dictated, in characters which they did not know.
They sat
forty days, and wrote during the daytime, and ate their bread at
night.
This knowledge is from the most high and is preparation and was a
result of being led in the scripts, looking for Eden/Atlantis of
Cyprus
[43] As for me, I spoke in the daytime and was not silent at
night.
That's true, its compelling and its a fulltime experience and I
wish I could do this fulltime.
[44] So during the forty days ninety-four books were written.
Like in this reality a testament is being compiled as I or we
interpret the scripts in our search. It stimulates search upon
this mystery in the books and unyields its treasures.
[45] And when the forty days were ended, the Most High spoke to
me, saying, "Make public the twenty-four books that you wrote
first and let the worthy and the unworthy read them;
Its like this testament and all the books of the past are being
revealed.
[46] but keep the seventy that were written last, in order to
give them to the wise among your people.
I feel this could be a reference to a new book of God that
harmonises all the other books the Urantia Book. This is the
sevenfold instruction that is given and for me personally its my
guide into the scripts, like leaning on the UB as I discover the
mystery in all the books. Just brilliant.
[47] For in them is the spring of understanding, the fountain
of wisdom, and the river of knowledge."
Great wisdom came out of this new Book The Urantia Book and seems
to match the time period 70 years before the discovery of Eden
same as mentioned in Isaiah where the same 70 year period is
mentioned and related to the same reality.
Now in this period, we are getting the full benefits of all the
books combined. It is a joy to explore and to discover
Eden/Atlantis in the books.
[48] And I did so. 2Esdras 14:20-46.
It is done and is happening now in today's reality.
I think this mystery is all about parallel realities working
together in the unification of the space/time reality and is a
result of the Trinity of Paradise.
There presence must be giving result to this ongoing phenomena of
the scriptures and in the physical reality. Its like spiritual and
physical merging forming a conjunction to a climax. A single point
in time. The discovery or the 40 days. It could be whatever comes
first. Just a thought.
But in reflection we are talking about
A book, 40 day period, like a test in which a book was written, like
a testament. The Most High is involved directly. With judgment
predicted or change and a message.
quote:
Seven's you should like
that, it's "The Seventh Vision" of The Lord to Ezra
WOW!! I am impressed I
just saw that post. Seventh Vision. That's is exactly what is
manifesting. Outstanding. These are big discoveries for religion and
is truly an alive experience and adventure in to the unchartered,
like where no man has gone before and we all experiencing it.
Its worth investigating more, not bad for Atlantis/Eden the location
and what it stirs within mankind.
This is a real living record of the quest for mankind, its a
testament of the future. The great quest. No better quest than
this.as we have structure and in reality. I'm sure future
generations will look upon this record as the great battle of faith
through the mire against all odds a real epic, a saga, a revelatory
and revealed journey of exploration and discovery with wars all
about. An adventure of man in amidst conflict.
The faith of man and God will shine through the darkness and will
illuminate. I have faith the Father will open all doors and none
will be shut by any man.
I'm sure this whole experience is of the highest levels. Just by
witnessing the harmonisation of the scriptures in what we see and
experience.
I admonish you to
give up the practice of always quoting the prophets of old and
praising the heroes of Israel, and instead aspire to become
living prophets of the Most High and spiritual heroes of the
coming kingdom. To honor the God-knowing leaders of the past
may indeed be worth while, but why, in so doing, should you
sacrifice the supreme experience of human existence: finding
God for yourselves and knowing him in your own souls?
Apparently there is second location close to site . Its bigger than the
Acropolis Hill and on one end there looks like a quarry area with large blocks
like in Baalbek.. The wall is mentioned in The Urantia Book in the exact place.
The discovery of Atlantis Book predicted the location even before the French
images where known. The only evidence they had in 2003 was Russian Bathymetric
data.
Since then there has been an abundance of evidence and agreement on the ruins..
Again this the Book and the discovery was all before the event. There is
time/space phenomena that surrounds this place and especially through the
scripts. Just look for Eden, hidden stone, mountain, hidden things, garden,
boughs as keywords in all the books and it will begin and interesting journey.
All the best
sevens
Hi Rajesh
Its a real shame with all the wrong interpretation of religion that
it comes down to this.
Religion is supposed to be a beautiful thing of the soul where a
person shines through truth, beauty and goodness. No violence.
You know I have high hopes that the Cyprus location could bring
peace to the region by its further discovery but now the whole
region is virtually a war zone.
But then we have to have faith that this will pass and the light of
the Father will shine through like a beacon. No violence or harm to
our fellow man. But surely that is the true witness of religion, the
fruits it leaves. I believe that if we think that a solution is at
hand it will come to pass with a construct that is already available
in the all the scripts.
I think what is happening is virtually the last stand scenario
playing itself out and interestingly it is mentioned in the scripts
that there will be war. On the same token you have Eden/Atlantis and
the truth behind it just around the corner. You have all the
characters in reality playing out there role as described in the
past.
I would take heart that eventually things may change soon, hopefully
for the best. Its funny putting faith in the message of
Atlantis/Eden ruins to bring in world peace today. You know it could
be the catalysts that no one can explain and would be confounded by
it. Particulary if there is an event. It does come from a level
which is an independent source that no one can lay claim to except
the Urantia Book interestingly. The location does have a deep
underlying message like the father sitting in the background ready
to swoop and correct. I believe that we are in the last throws of
all this conflict. One doesnt have to go to the location for a
correction to happen. It will be interesting to see what happens in
the next month and how all sides respond.
I noticed another earth quake near Java I wonder if this will be
more apparent.
Anyway here is a thought from the UB.
linkShame on those false religious teachers who would
drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there
leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to
become frightened by every new discovery, while they are
discomfited by every new revelation of truth.
The prophet who said, "He will be kept in perfect peace whose
mind is stayed on God," was not a mere intellectual believer
in authoritative theology.
This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely
talking about God.
Ideopraxist Ive been looking at Isaiah and found many references to
beforehand scenarios. Like in the following. I think there maybe
some in Ezra. When I finish Isaiah III have to look in to Ezra but I
do see similarities in both books which speak of the same thing.
Isaiah 48:2 For they
call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God
of Israel; The Lord of hosts is his name.
3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and
they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them
suddenly, and they came to pass.
The realties that are present fit this scenario or is in the
process.
regards
sevens
Hi Ideopraxist
Its is a great revelation and you identify the reality time markers
that are spread throughout the books and piece them together using
the physical location of Eden as the focus you can piece the
mystery, What I call the mystery of the Seven Stars. Surely this
reality as seen in the scriptures over time through all the God
revelaed men is the reality stamp of the Gods and with men of
vision. Evolved over time. The truth of the Heaven over space/time
pointing to this one reality and then a realisation concerning his
his soul, mankinds soul.
This is way beyond man and is a demonstration of the Father through
a wonder and a book. This is the birth of a great realisation or
mystery of God, of the ancients.
Everything that is was written is now.
Im glad you're seeing this, Its where the witness of two see it and
Jesus is in the midst as the heavenly witness. There is a response,
an heavenly response. Its amazing that now we see through the paths
that Eden/Atlantis was the clue in physical and with its focus on it
unlocked the message of the Gods, an endorsement of an message that
is already espoused today.
So everything this that has occurred has occurred beforehand in faith
and then realising it later in the scripts. Now if this true and
correct this realisation then what is to come must be true as well.
That is the test of the test of mans soul. If all is true then the
foreseen reality at this point on should unfold as according to all
the ancient scripts. I feel the revelation of Jesus in the scripts
has a duality to this time. Its all faith journey.
I never thought that studying the old testament was so compelling
and mysterious. I study at the moment which becomes a second
priority when you consider this huge discovery. That is the
perplexity of faith, Its an all faith journey into the scripts and
its a journey of faith.
Anyway, thanks for looking into it for me.
Here is a piece I found in the Book of Jubilees 2 years ago. Its got
some of my ideas imbedded. This was a major as you will see.
Jubilees 8 " 26
(even) sweet spices acceptable before the Lord on the Mount. For
the Lord has four places on the earth, the Garden of Eden, and the
Mount of the East, and this mountain on which thou art this day,
Mount Sinai, and Mount Zion will be sanctified in the new creation
for a sanctification of the earth;
This mountain is mentioned and is held in the same regard as a
holy mountain. Its all about the location, its the Cyprus location
Eden/Atlantis.
In the following is another reference to the 1st Garden of Eden
from the Book of Jubilees.
23 testified against (them) all. And he was taken from amongst
the children of men, and we conducted him into the Garden of Eden
(1st Eden) in majesty and honour, and behold there he writes down
the condemnation.
24 and judgment of the world, and all the wickedness of the
children of men. And on account of it (God) brought the waters of
the flood upon all the land of Eden; (As a consequence of
disobedience) for there he was set as a sign (So the submerged
1stEden becomes a sign for the future.) and that he should testify
against all the children of men, that he should recount all the
25 deeds of the generations until the day of condemnation.
(judgement day) And he burnt the incense of the sanctuary,
Really spells out the whole scenario and what is is coming to pass.
Its amazing this journey, there is no location on earth where its
all coming together and when man has realised this. I'm sure man
will respond.
The feeling I get. Is that its a race of time. Now that it is
unlocked and recognised the time clock begins, like in the movies and there are
traps like attitudinal traps that can be corrected through its message.
Many people will fall in the pit through disbelief even in light of the clues,
the reality clues. Thats what the scripts says.
8:12 When I hold my tongue,
they shall bide my leisure, and when I speak, they shall give good ear
unto me: if I talk much, they shall lay their hands upon their mouth.
8:13 Moreover by the means of her I shall obtain immortality, and leave
behind me an everlasting memorial to them that come after me.
8:14 I shall set the people in order, and the nations shall be subject
unto me.
9:17 And thy counsel who hath known, except thou give wisdom, and send
thy Holy Spirit from above?
9:18 For so the ways of them which lived on the earth were reformed, and men
were taught the things that are pleasing unto thee, and were saved through
wisdom.
10:1 She preserved the first formed father of the world, that was
created alone, and brought him out of his fall,
10:2 And gave him power to rule all things.
10:3 But when the unrighteous went away from her in his anger, he perished
also in the fury wherewith he murdered his brother.
10:4 For whose cause the earth being drowned with the flood, wisdom again
preserved it, and directed the course of the righteous in a piece of wood
of small value.
10:5 Moreover, the nations in their wicked conspiracy being confounded,
she found out the righteous, and preserved him blameless unto God, and
kept him strong against his tender compassion toward his son
11:4 When they were thirsty, they called upon thee, and water was given
them out of the flinty rock, and their thirst was quenched out of the hard
stone.
Its like a type for knowledge coming from the Acropolis Hill of Cyprus.
same thing.
12:1 For thine incorruptible Spirit is in all things.
12:2 Therefore chastenest thou them by little and little that offend, and
warnest them by putting them in remembrance wherein they have offended,
that leaving their wickedness they may believe on thee, O Lord.
12:3 For it was thy will to destroy by the hands of our fathers both those
old inhabitants of thy holy land,
12:26 But they that would not be reformed by that correction, wherein
he dallied with them, shall feel a judgment worthy of God.
12:27 For, look, for what things they grudged, when they were punished,
that is, for them whom they thought to be gods; [now] being punished in
them, when they saw it, they acknowledged him to be the true God, whom
before they denied to know: and therefore came extreme damnation upon
them.
13:1 Surely vain are all men by nature, who are ignorant of God, and
could not out of the good things that are seen know him that is: neither
by considering the works did they acknowledge the workmaster;
18:24 For in the long garment was the whole world, and in the four rows
of the stones was the glory of the fathers graven, and thy Majesty upon
the daidem of his head.
18:25 Unto these the destroyer gave place, and was afraid of them: for it
was enough that they only tasted of the wrath.
18:6 Of that night were our fathers certified afore, that assuredly
knowing unto what oaths they had given credence, they might afterwards be
of good cheer.
18:7 So of thy people was accepted both the salvation of the righteous,
and destruction of the enemies.
18:9 For the righteous children of good men did sacrifice secretly, and
with one consent made a holy law, that the saints should be like partakers
of the same good and evil, the fathers now singing out the songs of
praise.
18:14 For while all things were in quiet silence, and that night was in
the midst of her swift course,
18:15 Thine Almighty word leaped down from heaven out of thy royal
throne, as a fierce man of war into the midst of a land of destruction,
18:16 And brought thine unfeigned commandment as a sharp sword, and
standing up filled all things with death; and it touched the heaven, but
it stood upon the earth.
18:21 For then the blameless man made haste, and stood forth to defend
them; and bringing the shield of his proper ministry, even prayer, and the
propitiation of incense, set himself against the wrath, and so brought the
calamity to an end, declaring that he was thy servant.
18:22 So he overcame the destroyer, not with strength of body, nor force
of arms, but with a word subdued him that punished, alleging the oaths and
covenants made with the fathers.
This is a whole scenario of the change before the earth changes is expressed
this series of books of wisdom and confirmed by the other texts
that speak about the last times, the process. All about the timeline
we are in.
14:17 And that thine
handmaid hath not eaten at Aman's table, and that I have not
greatly esteemed the king's feast, nor drunk the wine of the drink
offerings
Is this the same Amam as in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith
Horus, O Twenty-first pylon of the Still-Heart! I have made the
way. I know thee.
I know thy name. I know the name of the goddess who guardeth thee.
"Sword that smiteth at the utterance of its own name, stinking
face, overthrower of him that approacheth her flame" is thy name.
Thou keepest the hidden things of the avenger of the god, thou
guardest them.
Amam is his name.
He maketh the ash trees not to grow, and the shenu trees not to
blossom, and preventeth copper from being found in the mountain.
The Tchatcha (Chiefs) of this Pylon are Seven Gods. Tchen, or
Anthch (At), is the name of the one at the door. Hetepmes is the
name of another there. Messep is the name of another there.
Utchara is the name of another there. Beq is the name of another
there. Anp (Anubis) is the name of another there
Thats a strong connection into the Book of the Dead a direct
parallel in the Additions to Esther.
We can only pray and hope that the positive pathway laid down in the texts and
in the discovery will be a powerful positive force that will bring peace into
this world. It just amazes me that we look upon ancient ruins for the answer
which all goes back to the beginning, back to the Father of all.
I hope that this revelation will overcome the negative aspects of religion and
its interpretation. I feel through revelation lays the answer. People will see
it and look in contrast and make the right decision and make changes. I hope!
Oh well see what happens. But its a mystery and a half and bigger than any
mystery of truth and all paralleled to Jesus and the message which was all
designed for no in this timeline. Even his whole life was about now.Its a great
message and a great path to research and discover for anyone.
all the best
sevens
Hi ideapraxist
The more I look at the flash presentation I think its definitely the location
with a small piece of the map broken off. Even in light of that It looks like
the tablet or map of Atlantis, of the location of Cyprus. It has all the
characteristics. particularly the isthmus and the river running through the
middle of it . Its an island in an inland sea.
I hope this brings more light to the interpretation.
Also look at the East - West longitudinal lines seems to fit Cyprus
Consider the, story of the Faces tablet, the story, 2 stories in one picture
representing the fall as in the Bible, all the characters are there. A
relationship that went sour. Like in the Eden story and then you have the map of
the Cyprus location on top of the tablet with writings of some sort around the
edges.
Very interesting to say the least.
With the first tablet it could be a mother Goddess representation Eve and Cain??
.....speculation.
Luke21
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then
know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not
them that are in the countries enter there into.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which
are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give
suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the
land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led
away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down
of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in
the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with
perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after
those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of
heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud
with power and great glory
28 Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and
raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all
the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own
selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know
ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say
unto you, This generation shall not pass away,till all be
fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall
not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your
hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares
of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the
face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be
accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to
pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
I was thinking maybe they
were Andites that arrived in Peru around the 12000 year mark when
the sea levels where lower and there was an island land bridge East
to West From Japan all the way to Peru across the Pacific.
The arrivals were regarded as Gods and the religion of the Gods was
perpetuated in the myths and legends and does find harmonisation in
the stars and the knowledge of them particularly Orion's belt. Thus
you had a transference of knowledge and religion from Mesopotamia to
Peru and the rest of the area through there legends throughout all
the races in Sth America.
Easter Island was a central point. Australia was also visited and
the visitors did leave there mark in Central Queensland. Maybe some
of them hitched a ride and brought some of there ideas. The Andites
certainly left their mark through out the world in there travels
especially in Peru in the Inca race where they intermingled with
them. 132 of them.
The stars of Orion's belt and what the constellation represents is
the connecting parallel. In my view the Orion's belt represents the
isle of God which can be entered into through an isthmus and 2 sets
of gates, the 12 gates. Orion's belt rises and falls in the timeline
and goes through an equinox every 26,000 years. One timeline and a
half ago on the descending equinox Atlantis was built and now were
are entering an ascending equinox when its is rediscovered.
It seems like a connection of Egyptian and Inca knowledge, the same
knowledge , its origins are the Sethite truth of the stars which all
point to land of the Gods with purpose.
Its interesting that Aztecs reliefs seem to suggest an ancient map
similar to Orion's star map similar to Atlantis and all the
connections of the deluge with tectonic and volcanic action in their
myths.
Here is an outline of an Aztec relief with my spin on it. Its what I
read in it. Note: the seven stars that surround the hill, Orions
belt has seven stars and combine with other constellations makes an
interesting and familiar Map outline.
I thought if you combined all the commonalities off their religions
and myths and the starmap clues to what discovered represents an
interesting harmonisation.
Didn't the Inca themselves speak of change in around 2012, in there
own words. Doesn't major religions today talk about change, Its
seems like the message of the Gods point to the one place and the
myths of that place has spread throughout the world only to be part
of the puzzle that is coming together, in this timeline. In the
ascending equinox, seems like a good time for a mystery to unravel.
I thought it was a fascinating study. However if you look at it from
the prospective of the sunken location and the canals that come from
the top of the Acropolis Hill and where the The Cyprus location is.
Its a bullseye! This interpretation is pointing directly to the
location.
http://home.valornet.com/eldavis/The_Garden.html
Look at the following from the location prospective.
Here is an extract of the study.
ktu relate to Ugarit scripts
In Judean tradition,
the mountain that Yahweh had his throne was Zion. Thus in Psalm
2:6-8, Yahweh calls Zion "my holy hill," in Psalm 24:1-8
"Yahweh the warrior" enters through the "ancient gates" of his
"holy place" in the "mountain of Yahweh", and in Psalm 46:4,
the "city of God" is called "the holy place where the Most High
dwells." Zion appears to be the mountain described in 1 Enoch
26, from which a deep valley descends -- the "accursed valley"
where the souls of the wicked are tormented (i.e. Gehenna)
according to 1 Enoch 27. According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol
lies at the base of the cosmic mountain, and it is only natural
for the deep valley below it to be associated with the underworld.
Note also that a valley adjoining the Hinnom valley is called the
Valley of the Rephaim in Joshua 15:8, 18:16; 2 Samuel 5:18, 23:13;
1 Chronicles 11:15, 20:4 and the Rephaim were the ghosts of the
dead residing in Sheol (cf. Job 26:5-6; Isaiah 14:4-5, 9-11,
26:14). The earthly valleys associated with the underworld also
evoke the "valleys of Sheol" where the Rephaim are found according
to Proverbs 9:18. It was in fact in the valley of Hinnom below
Zion where the ancestor cult of Molech was practiced (2 Kings
23:10; Isaiah 30:33, 57:9; Jeremiah 7:31-33, 19:4-6, 32:35). There
is an exact parallel in the Canaanite culture of Syria and
northern Israel, which designated Mt. Hermon as the "mountain
of El" and the Bashan area below it as the realm of the dead,
where Rapiu (aka Molek, or Milku) was enthroned as king in the
cities of Ashtaroth/Athtart and Edrei (cf. KTU 1.108 R 1-3, 11-13,
V 22-29; compare Genesis 14:5, Deuteronomy 1:4, 3:10, and Joshua
9:10, 12:4, 13:12, 31 which amazingly also locate the Rephaim in
the cities of Ashtaroth and Edrei in Bashan). In fact, Psalm 42 is
directly dependent on this northern view of El's abode being
located in Mt. Hermon (also called Mt. Misar):
I am on my way to the
wonderful Tent, to the House of God , among cries of joy and
praise and an exultant throng. Why so downcast, my soul, why do
you sigh within me? Put your hope in God, I shall praise him
yet, my savior, my God. When my soul is downcast within me, I
think of you; from the land of Jordan and in Hermon, in Mount
Misar deep is calling to deep as your cataracts roar."
(Psalm 42:4-7)
The reference to "deep calling to deep" is based in the
Canaanite notion that the cosmic mountain where El makes his abode
joins the heavenly "Deep" (cf. Genesis 1:6) with the subterranean
"deep" contained within the mountain (cf. Job 28:9-11, 38:16-17).
In the Ugaritic Baal Epic, we read of the god Kothar heading
"toward El at the springs of the Double-Rivers, amidst the
channels of the Double-Deeps. He comes to the mountain of El and
enters the tent of the King, the Father of Years" (KTU 1.2 III
4-5). Similarly, in another myth El's mountain palace is said to
lie "at the springs of the Two Rivers, at the meeting place of
the Double-Deeps (mbk nhrm b'dt thmtm, KTU 1.100 R 1-4). In
the OT, we also read how Yahweh "builds his palace on the
waters above" and "sits enthroned on the Flood" (Psalm
29:10; 104:2-3), and Ezekiel 28:2 has the Phoenician king declare:
"I am El ('l), in the dwelling of the gods ('lhym); I dwell in
the midst of the seas (ymym)."
The motif of
Yahweh's mountain Zion standing at the source of primeval
subterranean waters appears in Psalm 36:8-9, Isaiah
33:20-22, Ezekiel 47:1-22; Joel 4:18, Zechariah 14:8, 1 Enoch
26:1-2, and is alluded to in Matthew 7:24-25, 16:18, and John
7:38. In later Jewish tradition, the foundation for the Temple
was believed to have kept the subterranean floods at bay; it was
said to be the stone on which the world is based (Yoma 54b), and
David was said to have removed the stone in his search
for the great Abyss (Yer Sanh. x. 29a; Suk. 53a).
Likening the Qumran community to the Temple, the Thanksgiving
Hymns utilize the ancient cosmological concept to connote their
struggle against the forces of Satan:
(Exactly in the process, the significants of this find of Cyprus
1stEden where it all began...my thoughts.)
"As the Abysses boil above the foundations of the waters, their
towering waves and billows shall rage with the voice of their
roaring; and as they rage, Sheol and Abaddon shall open and all
the flying arrows of the Pit shall send out their voice to the
Abyss. And the gates of Sheol shall open on all the works of
vanity and the doors of the Pit shall close on the conceivers of
wickedness..... The torrents of Belial shall break into Abaddon,
and the deeps of the Abyss shall groan amid the roar of the
heaving mud.... The heavenly hosts shall cry out and the
world's foundations shall swagger and sway....The deeps resound to
my groaning and my soul has journeyed to the gates of death.
(1QH 11:16-19, 32-35)
The waters on El's
mountain however are not dammed up but flow and water creation.
In the Gilgamesh Epic (11.194-96), the abode of the gods lies
"at the mouth of the rivers" (ina pi narati ), and an Akkadian
seal from Mari similarly depicts "a god of the type of El
enthroned, between the springs of two streams, on a mountain. He
is flanked by two vegetarian goddesses who grow out from the
waters" (O. Keel, "Ancient Seals and the Bible," JAOS
1986:309). This recalls the description of the four rivers of
the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2, which according to Ezekiel
28:13-14 was located in "the holy mountain of God" (hr
qds 'lhym). Thus Genesis 2:6 noted that at Eden "streams (or
a "flood") came up from the earth and watered the whole surface
of the ground", and the four rivers described in v. 10-44
include the Gihon, which was the name of the subterranean spring
and river at Jerusalem (cf. 2 Chronicles 32:30). The mention of
the Tigris and Euphrates however shows a dependence on Akkadian
traditions as well. In parallel to Ezekiel, the Genesis
description also mentions onyx and gold (Genesis 2:11-12),
though not in the Garden per se, as well as cherubs (3:24).
( We know that Eden is compromised of clay on igneous foundations
hence Mt Olympus on Cyprus closeby and springs have been located
on the to of the Acropolis Hill.)
Thus far we have seen that Eden was located on the "mountain of
God" in OT tradition, identified with Mount Zion in
Judean Yahwism, under which flowed the waters of the abyss --
the "waters of life" which watered creation.(That was a clear
description of Eden of Cyprus) Sheol was also located below the
cosmic mountain, and a cult of the dead typically occurred in the
valleys running down from this mountain. The Temple on Mt. Zion
would thus be equivalent with the Garden itself, as Lawrence
E. Stager's article "Jerusalem as Eden" (BAR, May/June 2000)
points out
This interpretation seems to all point to Mt Zion Gods name for the
location. Understand the Acropolis Hill has 2 springs on top and
there are 2 canals that run from the top to below to the greater
city. This is the location as described of Mt Zion, Atlantis, Maati,
Eden original Atzlan, take your pic.
I just did a search on the seal of Mari and this what I found.
Note the concentric circles that represent the 2 springs on the
mount and the city below. I also note that the flank of the mountain
are circled and follows the shape of the 2 springs. This is a direct
match to new research found in the members section of Discovery of
Atlantis.
This is a major find. The seal of Mari is the plan view of the
Acropolis Hill and the city below and matchs the evidence found in
the 2003 expedition.
In the Normal position the Mari stone depicts the Acropolis Hill and
the City below with water North and South.
Turn it 90 degrees counterclockwise and you have the completion of
the map with the 12 gates protecting the garden land and the arrow
in the direction through the 12 gates to the location, through the
isthmus with the great river running through the middle of it
towards the Euhprates
Its a 3 dimensional picture of the location.
Oh and note that there are 7 concentric circles that surround the
springs of the water of life!! The Seven ,Master spirits of life and
expression, again the sevens. Aboriginals in Australia use the same
symbols signifying the water of life.
Also as Im looking at it further, what I think is the city south of
the hill or could it be representation of the 12 gates of Eden that
protected the Garden city. Are we seeing an ancient map of 1stEden?
Is this the true interpretation of this Seal of Mari??
And what do you think of the upside down triangle, does that
represent change or simply direction out of the land to the east?
The seal could look like an owl, but maybe underlying this view
without knowing it, is really all about the submerged location: a
map to the home of the Gods. Could be?
I also noticed to the North it has mountains and to the south you
have the location and the city and you again you have water. Does
that infers an island with water about? or maybe the triangle is the
isthmus with the 12 gates for entry on the island? Like a Seal with
a complete description of the landmass and important submerged
locations.
The Home of the Double Deep! This could be an ancient map with a
description of the location
The following describes the double deep and the fall of Man context
with the location and confirms the story known about it.
"The mother of the stallion, Mare, daughter of spring,
daughter of heaven and the deep, called to Shapsh her mother, 'Shapsh,
my mother, carry my voice to El at the source of the rivers, at
the meeting place of the Double-Deeps.
to relate to Ugarit scripts
The location of 1st Eden, the submerged location of Cyprus.
A spell against the bite of a snake, against the venom of a
snake that has sloughed. From it, let the conjurer destroy, from
it let him cast out the poison'..... Towards Horon she turned her
face, for she was about to be deprived of her offspring.
A description of the Fall of Eve and does have strong parallels to
The Urantia Book account.
He went to the eastern city. Then he set his face towards the
Tigris abounding in rain, and the well-watered city of Tigris
('rsch < Hurrian Arassich "Tigris").
After the fall, Adam and Eve was expelled to the East of first
Eden towards the 2nd homeland between the Tigris and Euphrates and
established themselves there.
He uprooted from among the trees the tamarisk, and from among
the shrubs the Tree of Death. With the tamarisk he shook it out;
with the fruit-cluster he drove it away; with the foilage he
dismissed it; with the roots he carried it off.
He worked the 2nd Garden and cultivated the area, because he lost
his immortality he had to virtually work with shrubs of death. He
was reduced to a mortal man/God
Horon went to his house and came to his court. The poison
became weak like a stream-bed, it flowed away like a stream.
Behind her the house of incantation, behind her the house she
shut, behind her the bronze she shot.
Adam and Eve suffered mortality and noticed the difference. They
desired to go back to the first garden
Horon: 'Open the house, spell, open the house that I may enter,
the palace that I may come in.'
Pleaded to be let in but was denied.
Mare: 'Give me the snake as my gift, give me the reptile as my
dowry, and the young serpent as my present.' Horon: 'I shall give
the snake as your present, the young serpent as your present'
(KTU 1.100 R 1-6, V 60-75)
Even though they were denied if they bring the head of the snake
they will be allowed in. Tis exactly what is occuring right now in
the timeline.
I ffel in the right way is a map that leads to the location.
If you sit back some 10 ft and use the lazy eye, like watching a 3 dimensional
pictures and concerntrate on the bottom of the triangle you can see a 3
dimensional picture of the 12 gates of Eden with the great river running through
the middle of it. A direct match to the Urantia Account and all the 12 markers
in the bible and other scripts.
The 12 gates of Eden are protecting the mountain of God with The 2 springs are
on top of the mountain running down to the city. This is where Adam and Eve
manifested and lasted for 1000 years before being expelled to the east beyond
the gates.
His myth and legend has perpetuated through many religions such like this
ancient one.
IIn this picorial I believe the Mari Seal has been broken and is relevant to the
Cyprus case as the submerged land of the Gods.
Hi Greg
Thanks for your post I found it interesting and very intriguing. I
found the ring you was talking about in Bimini quite interesting. I
wish you al the best with the Cuban Government in a permit to
explore. It sounds like a personal presentation would have to be
done to get the permission. I remember 5 years ago I found images of
block anomalies submerged of Cuba somewhere that resembles a lay out
of stone buildings in sand. I'm sure something lays there and I wish
you all success the obtain the right permits for the exploration.
Thanks also for the Cygnus information. I look forward to reading
the book. That sounds very interesting and if can be confirmed
scientifically that should be interesting.
In relation to my last post, I'm just fascinated in the parallels in
the star information and in the Inca culture and the links to
Mesopotamia .
Here is a link to a picture I copied from Google of the island land
bridge that where close to each enough for medium sized boats to
island hop from the Japan, Western Pacific to Peru.
The information I look into are books like The Urantia Book and the
scripts to see if I can find physical clues that match the
information. Anyway in the UB it does mention a transfer of
knowledge and admixation of they call The Andites that did originate
from Mesopotamia/Sumerian and where the forerunners of the Egyptians
way back in history before the flood. Back some some thousand of
years ago when the sea levels where lower there was an island land
bridge connecting Japan to Peru that seems to stand out in Google.
It looks quite interesting and considering a lower sea level would
make islands and greater landmasses stand out that could form the
island land bridge from Mesopotamia to Peru. Also the discovering
the Sumerian bowl in Bolivia was an outstanding find and I feel gave
weight to the idea. Considering what we know about the Sumerians is
only the tail end of an very ancient civilisation that I feel goes
back much further than what we know.
Here is a link to these Sumerian discoveries Bolivia.
If that is the case admixation would of occurred and having been
revered as Gods having fair skin and beards became part of the Inca
Myths. Even there cosmology that was presented in a documentary
seemed to have many parallels to Mesopotamian
star knowledge.
With that admixation of knowledge and culture throughout the
thousands of years it would of emanated in various legends and
tribal religions in the surrounding areas as depictions and
parallels of ancient stories from afar, stories of the Gods and
thier demise.
"The righteous shrine,
anoint (this) shrine, anoint (this) shrine; The leader takes an
oath [to] Establish purity, a favorable oracle (and to) Establish
character. [Oh leader of the cult] Open up a unique light [for
all], [who] wish for a noble life".
Also here is link The Back and side inscriptions on the Pokotia
Monolith
Here is the message of the last panel
quite interesting
"(Putaki) speaks (in)
true measure, to send forth gladness (for all). Send forth
nourish(ment). (The oracle Putaki is) the father of wisdom (and)
benefit (for all). (The oracle) to become a visible witness of
the diving decree and knowledge. (This) pure oracle speaks the
divine decree (and) makes (it) a visible witness (of the deity's
power)."
Gee, we are witnessing this oracle and a divine decree today in its
message today. This oracle is a witness of today's decree through
these discoveries of now! surely we are, especially in light of
today's conversation. How relevant is that?? for today. Are we about
to witness and we revisit and discover its meaning further. Are we
coming close to something? Its a whole path discovery. Just Blown
away! Is the message through the oracle a self fulfilling prophecy?
and its a witness of today's proclamation!!!!
I hope that was interesting. It was like a little revelation for me
in terms of the topics I what venture into.
Thanks again for your post it was interesting. I hope you come up
with more evidence in the future.
Bernardo's discovery of
the Pokotia monument supports the research of the Verrills that
the Sumerians came to South America in search of metals. A.H
Verrill and R. Verrill, Americas ancient civilizations (New York:
Putnam, 1953), and J. Bailey Sailing to Paradise, (New York: Simon
& Schuster, 1994) maintain that the area around Lake Titicaca may
have been called Lake Manu, by the Sumerians. According to the
Verrills and Bailey the Sumerians came to this area in search of
tin. They support this view by a discussion of the Sumerian
traditions, that Sumerians set sail to the land west of the
Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or
"Sunset Land". It is interesting to note that a major center in
this area is Potosi. Bailey suggest that Potosi may relate to the
Sumerian term Patesi the Sumerian term for 'priest king'
quote:
a discussion of the
Sumerian traditions, that Sumerians set sail to the land west of
the Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or
"Sunset Land".
I thought that was
interesting, I think within the Eastern Med, the land beyond the
gates, the land beyond the sea to the West, the submerged location.
The tin land of the west in relation to Sumerian or is the "Isle of
the Gods" in the west where the tree of life was? where tin is
represented as their home that went down in a flood as seen in that
Aztec relief. Looks like a picture coming together or a parallel.
The mention of the Med, even from Bolivia and considering the Aztec
relief in my last post with my spin on it, the map of the Eastern
Mediterranean and the isle of the Gods and there message even from
Bolivia and its relevance of it, today??
The Land in the West is described in the Book of Noah
here is a description
of the Mediterranean deluge
67.4 And they will shut up those Angels, who showed iniquity, in
that burning valley, (Eden Valley) which my great-grandfather
Enoch had shown to me previously, in the west, (assuming Noah is
in Mesopotamia to the east of the 1st Eden location) near the
mountains of gold and silver and iron and soft metal and tin.
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which there
was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the waters. (tsunami
effect) (The Urantia Book rendition of the deluge) Here for
another description of the Mediterranean deluge.
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which disturbed the
waters in that place, a smell of sulphur (volcanic) was produced,
and it was associated with those waters. (Water from the Atlantic,
from the west) And that valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st
Eden), who led men astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out rivers of
fire where those Angels will be punished, who led astray those on
the dry ground. (The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that
the area that is now submerged) Images of 1st Eden
This is all seen in reference from the 2nd garden between The
Euphrates and The Tigris.
It all seems to fit in the Mari Seal, a map of the "Tin land of the
West" or "Sunset Land" the city and its acropolis hill with springs
atop and its 12 gates on the isthmus, protecting the land of favour,
that went down in the flood, a deluge which was recorded and
transferred, even to Bolivia, by the priests. just incredible!
For me a big find was the Akkadian Seal of Mari with the 12 gates
and the 2 springs on the hill, the location.
then last night I was responding to a post on the Bimini thread
which became a research paper at the end. As I was drawing on past
research going through the links I started to see more in it where I
discovered the further Pokati decipherment of Sumerian writings
found around Lake Tititacha. Confirms all the UB information but the
message of the stones was quite remarkable and relevant for today.
Here is an extract the Sumerian writing found in Bolivia from the
imini post with links.
"The righteous shrine, anoint (this) shrine, anoint (this) shrine;
The leader takes an oath [to] Establish purity, a favorable oracle
(and to) Establish character. [Oh leader of the cult] Open up a
unique light [for all], [who] wish for a noble life".
Also here is link The Back and side inscriptions on the Pokotia
Monolith
Here is the message of the last panel
quite interesting
"(Putaki) speaks (in) true measure, to send forth gladness (for
all). Send forth nourish(ment). (The oracle Putaki is) the father
of wisdom (and) benefit (for all). (The oracle) to become a
visible witness of the diving decree and knowledge. (This) pure
oracle speaks the divine decree (and) makes (it) a visible witness
(of the deity's power)."
So in essence we have 2 stones and a bowl, One with information and
the bowl with identical information and the Seal of Mari is relic of
a map of the location and its key features.
These stones are like seals of imagery of the mountains of the gods
and symbols that can be recognised and now we have there prophecies
coming to pass with its discovery and meaning overall.
Inn the following is another artifact with a side view of an
headress of a priest or king with a beard and different features of
the people in the area.
Here is what they link
it to, the Akkadian period and note the the Mari seal connection.
We are dealing with an object which was made in keeping with
Mesopotamian tradition.
It contains two texts, one in cuneiform and another Semitic
language of possible Sinaitic extraction cuneiform influences.
According to the symbols used one would be before an object that
evidently shows itself to be from the transitional period between
ideographical writing and cuneiform.
Chronologically, this leads us to the 3500/3000 B.C., the
Sumerian/Akkadian period.
Then you have the Mari Connection. massive.
Note in the Fuentemagna Bowl you have the rectangular images sides
by side each other encircling to the middle, similar to the Mari
Seal of the 2 springs with 7 concentric circles surrounding each
spring.
I think that is an interesting link to 2 seals connected perhaps to
a common culture. on the opposite end of the world. There message
that survives is relevant for today.
Bernardo's discovery of
the Pokotia monument supports the research of the Verrills that
the Sumerians came to South America in search of metals. A.H
Verrill and R. Verrill, Americas ancient civilizations (New York:
Putnam, 1953), and J. Bailey Sailing to Paradise, (New York: Simon
& Schuster, 1994) maintain that the area around Lake Titicaca may
have been called Lake Manu, by the Sumerians. According to
the Verrills and Bailey the Sumerians came to this area in search
of tin. They support this view by a discussion of the Sumerian
traditions, that Sumerians set sail to the land west of the
Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or
"Sunset Land". It is interesting to note that a major center
in this area is Potosi. Bailey suggest that Potosi may relate to
the Sumerian term Patesi the Sumerian term for 'priest king'
Note Lake Manu similar to the word Mari, Lake Manu the sea where
the isle of the Gods was. Like "Mari" is the Name of the isle of the
Gods and "Mari in the sea of Manu". and its great God at that time
must have links to Shamesh and then must have links to Ugarit
writing which is all about the location, of Cyprus. Thing is no one
planted the evidence there as it is set in stone and links to the
bowl.
Now Mari in the Sea of Manu went down in a deluge which is described
in the following Book of Noah from the Book of Enoch and the
connection or parallel is the land of Tin where in the Book of Noah
its the mountain of Tin. Its the location
In the following is the Book of Noah within the Book of Enoch. Its
is a rendition of the Deluge that destroyed Eden and its connection
to Bolivia through the mountain of Tin connect pathway. In drawing
this from previous research as the picture is beginning to form.
here is a description
of the Mediterranean deluge
67.4 And they will shut up those Angels, who showed iniquity, in
that burning valley, (Eden Valley) which my great-grandfather
Enoch had shown to me previously, in the west , (assuming
Noah is in Mesopotamia to the east of the 1st Eden location) near
the mountains of gold and silver and iron and soft metal and
tin.
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which there
was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the waters. (tsunami
effect) (The urantia Book rendition of the deluge) Here for
another description of the Mediterranean deluge.
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which disturbed the
waters in that place, a smell of sulphur (volcanic) was produced,
and it was associated with those waters. (Water from the Atlantic,
from the west) And that valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st
Eden), who led men astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out rivers of
fire where those Angels will be punished, who led astray those on
the dry ground. (The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that
the area that is now submerged) Images of 1st Eden
Also notice its connection to judgement, thats what alerted me very
early in this work and now note the Pokotia message in full and its
parallel. I believe its all about now!!
and note the Akkadian references to the mountain and its related
prophecies.
But you know what, it all reflects back to the Bible and the many
things that influenced the Bible and other books related but not
included . It really all comes back to that information which has
been adopted and shared and reconstituted but in essence there is a
consistency in all the information and you can see its origins and
message. Not unlike the message today, in essence.
This is linked a 5500 year old mystery story, a boomerang coming
back fulfilling itself revealing and showing connection over 5500
years. Unbelievable. I feel its connected and parallel over a number
sources.
Akkadian/Mari/Manu message is short, but how decisive.
Following it further if I go to the Jesus prophecy extract out of
the Book of Adam and Eve
The Promise of Jesus of
Nazareth
3:1-2 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and
years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them,
until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send
the Word that created you, and against which you have
transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the
garden, and that raised you when you were fallen. 2 Yes, the
Word that will again save you when the five and a half
days are fulfilled."
And if we look at five and a half days are fulfilled." and 1
day is a 1000 years in the time of the lord that would equal 5500
years which is now, from the Akkadian time, the time of the seal of
Mari. A look at what is said about this time and what is happening
in reality as we reflect and what the meaning we discover today,
through these connections and how it comes back to the bible.
Look at what Jesus says about the fulfilment of this mystery and we
are being drawn back to the garden, again Cyprus and has connections
to Bolivia with Akkadian/Mesopotamian prophecy fulfilling itself.
However looking further we see that Mari in Syria where this tablet
comes from was inhabited from the Ancient History
Tablet of King Zimri-Lim of Mari, ca. 1780 BC, Louvre MuseumMari
had been inhabited since the 5th millennium BCE, but the real
significance of the city was during the third and second
millennia BCE. The inhabitants of Mari were a Semitic people,
thought to be part of the same Eblaite and Akkadian migration.
Here is what I found in the Wikipedia on the word Manu.
Look up the word Manu in the Wikipedia
In Hindu mythology,
Manu is a title accorded the progenitor of humankind, first king
to rule this earth, who saves mankind from the universal flood. He
is honest which is why he is called "Satyavrata", or faster on to
the truth.
Extract
"The ten sons of Manu are known as Vena, Dhrishnu, Narishyan,
Nabhaga, Ikshvaku, Karusha, Saryati, the eighth, a daughter named
Ila, Prishadhru the ninth, and Nabhagarishta, the tenth. They
all betook themselves to the practices of Kshatriyas. Besides
these, Manu had fifty other sons on Earth. But we heard that
they all perished, quarrelling with one another."
Extract
The Matsya avatar of Vishnu is said to have appeared to King Manu
(whose original name was Satyavrata, the then King of Dravida),
while he washed his hands in a river.
The little fish asked the king to save it, and kept growing bigger
and bigger. It also informed the King of a huge flood which would
occur soon. The King builds a huge boat, which houses the fish and
his family and other seeds of animals to repopulate the earth.
This story is very similar to other deluge stories in ancient
Sumerian mythology which preceded the story of Noah's ark.
You have to copy and paste the link
Manu in the Wikipedia and its Hindu/Dravidian connection in Akkadian
Polynesian
Several different flood stories are recorded among the
Polynesians. None of them approach the scale of the Biblical
flood.
The people of Ra'iatea tell of two friends, Te-aho-aroa and Ro'o,
who went fishing and accidentally awoke the ocean god Ruahatu with
their fish hooks. Angered, he vowed to sink Ra'iatea below the
sea. Te-aho-aroa and Ro'o begged for forgiveness, and Ruahatu
warned them that they could escape only by bringing their familes
to the islet of Toamarama. These set sail, and during the
night, the island slipped under the ocean, only to rise again the
next morning. Nothing survived except for these families, who
erected sacred marae (temples) dedicated to the god Ruahatu.
Evidence of sea levels rising in the Pacific in the ancient past
through the legends of the Polynesians.
same thing Hawaii, evidence of rising sea levels
In Hawaii, a human couple, Nu'u and Lili-noe, survived a flood on
top of Mauna Kea on the Big Island. Nu'u made sacrifices to the
moon, to whom he mistakenly attributed his safety. Kāne, the
creator god, descended to earth on a rainbow, explained Nu'u's
mistake, and accepted his sacrifice.[4]
Hi Personally, I'm finding
allot of connections that have consistency in the general message
and the events that are foretold. I'm finding messages from across
the other side of the world that lead back to the location, in
discovery and interpretations of the message attached of artifacts.
Nothing against anyone in belief put I truly feel there is a
standard required to what is to come and is consistent with the
information that I'm finding.
Just don't disregard the essence of the message. That's all, its a
personal choice thing. But blow it away completely in reaction.
That's all I'm saying, it could be mistake.
I know Elmer might be a bit punchy and I know my message is not a
nice one for many. But I do find consistency in the message in all
the scripts and additional information and links that I've left
everywhere which does verify a strong unity in what is to come and
it does have consequences. The worst thing to do is disbelief and no
faith and rejection.
Personally, about witches and all that, I wont get into that, just
connect with God in your own way, research the research, the
message, have faith, see God as a friend from within you not as
something out there, I'm sure he has been leading without you
knowing. Cleanse yourself with a sincere prayer of any wrong doing
towards others. You know those things. If you feel compelled to go
to a church. do so.
There is a good message for ones with faith, and to be connected
with the message is not hard, there is no obstacles, just reflection
and sincere personal action in the way of response.
You know some 2 weeks ago, I think, I proclaimed a forty day test
and then it will happen, well I could be jumping the gun on that
one. But you know, if the conditions are right and the right
connections are being made through the cracking of the mysteries
through the right path. It could happen, just like that. A person
could just have the right keys in knowledge and faith that could
unlock the door, unlock the mystery. Like in the movies, a mystery
movie. But it could happen in real life.
Like Jesus went through a 40 day test in the Wilderness and the
Israelites through the 40 day test before they entered the promised
land. So with mankind, perhaps a 40 day test. Anyway I thought it
had consistency and I had a strong feeling about it.
Note the time markers as expressed in the bible. Like the 2 tower
time markers found in 2 sections Isaiah that combined, all point to
the man of terror in Afghanistan. Then the sevenfold reflection
straight after associated with the breach. The discovery of Cyprus
and then all the discovery in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Ezra about
the test, 40 day period where a Testamony will be written and a test
associated and a coming. Its everywhere.
What about Cyprus and all the evidence in script that points to it,
I find it overwhelming and harmonised. Being a witness is a real
testimony in itself all beforehand realizing after the action
written in scripture. That's my Testamony.
I'm so happy that I found the UB and how it complimented my research
in all the scripts and made me really love the old testament and all
the mysteries in it and the new testament. For me, today. I cant
wait to research the books. That's how compelling it is. Not to
mention all the other discoveries.
The best thing what I say will be tested. If nothing happens at all,
I was wrong and no doubt cope criticism, natural for man. If I'm
right well then, I'm right and before we realize that we will be in
a different reality, no time to say good bye.
It will be something like that. When that happens there will be a
great realisation, then the disappointment that will burn in there
souls and that will be like a hell in itself in amidst earth
changes.
I believe that is the case. I gave a time limit in accordance to the
scriptures and or a discovery on the hill. That is the test for me
and what I say.
see what happens. Just don't throw it away completely.
With Elmer you have to understand his background and the his
teachings in his environment, history and variant of the body of
Christ. I think he may be Mormon, I'm not sure. Where as myself I
have had experience of most Christian churches and a couple of Bible
colleges but i work alone and not influenced by anything except what
I read and know.
But note even from different and perhaps opposite ends but we do
still harmonized on the general end time message. I find that
interesting.
However if there is anything I uncover that is for the benefit of
the greater body. No worries go for it!! take , eat it, use it. If
there is truth in it.
Also I believe there is a space
connection unity going on here. As a witness in this journey of discovery. There
is much unity going on and I believe its from the Trinity of Paradise. I know
that sounds a little weird. But there is space time phenomena involved in all
these discoveries. I believe of a high level and is connected with lets the
Kingdom of Heaven.
Its a pretty serious thing gong on here. I'm so sure of it. There is witness to
it. Elmer says he feels something in the air. What is that he is feeling?
What is that feeling the effect of? A mutual witness in the scriptures and in
discovery? There owns investigations? You know if a major body sees this and is
sincere that's all its takes for the message to grow like soothing rain on a hot
day.
If the evidence is coming up well and it seems to be following a path of truth
and if it has witness or more than two, then there will be others. What the
message . Glad tidings towards others, the Jesus message.
I know there will others that will not like what is said. All I say is just
consider half-heartedness belief, that's ok.
Just a little open, even research all the matter about it.
It could be a life boat, really could be at this time, in this timeline.
I don't God is going to do a major campaign on this as he always knows the
outcome, How little, how big, when, how much time makes no difference.
Unfortunately, as prophesied there will be few at all that will proclaim this. A
self defeating prophecy in Ezra and Dead Seas scrolls about this test. That's
the great disappointment, either way there will be no good result for the
majority. Either in scorn from the majority if nothing happens with
disappointment or the majority in disappointment because they never listened and
there is no turning back.
Even with Eden on all papers and TV even in a documentary and the pathways left
behind in the research. The response is miserable from a sevenfold view.
People still do nothing about it. What's the point you might as well get it over
and done with and move on.
No point waiting around, for what? man wont do nothing about this in
proclamation or doing something, Oh unless there's bucks in it.
I somehow feel we are in probation time and when its done, its done and then III
personally present my report on CD. Bloody miserable, man failed to click on.
When he did, he did nothing. stalled in general. Its about a 10% percenter.
Thanks for the reply. I really enjoyed the post and the information.
I learnt allot in the link. I don't understand witchcraft or Wicca
and its history. I know my work is done alone but I do share it
straight away, so it can studied and scrutinized to make sure I'm on
the right track.
I sometimes have wondered many things with what I write and what I
find. That's why I invite Elmer, yourself, Robert and others to
check over things, make sure I'm not misleading. That is the very
last I want to do. I don't isolate myself from the world casting
spells that's for sure I just work in faith. Although I do get angry
at terrorism but I use the scripts to see if I can identify it and
where it will lead, which is no where. But in by doing this I find
other relevant information.
Quite the opposite, I give my all to the world in regards to the
research because I feel the Father wants me to do that, open up the
heart case, laying it up on the throne, sipping the hot coal from
the throne.
With this kind of information it has to be released to mankind and
not held back for whatever reason. All I want to do is a good job
for The Father in heaven and within us. Like a Father/Son
relationship and the thrill of discovery and sharing the thrill of
it. Venturing into the realms of truth and understanding where no
man has gone. The exploration in the most wholesome sense. The
inspiration of discovery and where it leads to. Like a faith son on
the faith ship into unchartered waters to the garden of infinite
joy.
Its this attitude that heaven loves and really gets inspired and
begins to move and show themselves in support through the scripts
and in physical action.
These are things that motivate me, along the path in faith. In the
path of discovery I'm led across things and recognise a truth
embedded, record it then release it.
Also I weigh heavily in scripture, I use the word and the words of
the ancients to verify the things that I'm finding and reflect back
to the realities that have occurred. The whole journey is like this.
I call it the beforehand phenomena, Its recorded and I recognise it
when I read it, looking back. That's a mystery, but when its
recognised the thrill of discovery and the oneness in the experience
is heavenly.
You know, I think heaven really gets inspired out of that. The
universal family involved directly in the Saga know about it as it
occurs and just warms up. The love connection in that is truly
amazing. That's is one very important aspect in the relationship of
man and God, a continual source of inspiration in finding truth,
everyday.
I suppose the greatest inspiration is the whole picture that is
forming through a discovery, the harmonisation of word and discovery
in physical not to mention the message behind it. Looking from every
aspect all the prophets outside/inside the bible had something to
say about the place.
Personally, I think what we are seeing in Israel is the process that
will lead to change. Somehow looking at all the circumstances and
the discovery at this time and the short range prophecies
fulfilling. It certainly looks intriguing, looking at all the
players getting involved falling heavier into the scenario, walking
blindly into it or tempting the scenario? You know? Even I have to
watch myself and that's why I rely on you guys.
But I do have faith and trust in the Lord for his guidance. I am
inspired with all the characters involved from my research. The
Father, Jesus, Ancient of Days, the Most Highs, the Melchizedek and
all the angels involved. I proclaimed this as an operation in faith
years ago and gave it identity and I look back at the path of
discovery and find it so unique and amazing.
Its an inspiration and I'm certainly not casting spells but leaving
myself open for them. But the thing is, I have no fear of that
because of what I know in my relationship the Father. God. Who else
is there?
Looking at the path of discovery there is no fear, because in him,
there is light as expressed by Jesus, a message that will lead to a
good ending for those with faith, the size of a mustard seed, that's
fine. They even said this in Bolivia 5500 years ago. Saying that a
demonstration will occur, the power of deity confirming our
conversation today, at this time.
1Adam and Eve.
The Promise of Jesus of
Nazareth
3:1-2 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and
years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them,
until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall
send the Word that created you, and against which you have
transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the garden,
and that raised you when you were fallen. 2 Yes, the
Word that will again save you when the five and a half days
are fulfilled."
5 .5 days is that 5500 years like the message from Bolivia created
around 5500 years ago and found 5500 years later relevant for today?
However looking at it late in the verse in this statement "I have
ordained on this earth days and years" God does relate to Days and
years so 5500 years must be close to right.
I reckon 5.5 days of 5500 years are pretty well fulfilled today,
there is a duality in the above verse,
1 One of Jesus being a
man who died on the cross and the second component attached to the
original Garden?
2 Jesus bringing us back to the Garden through his word.
exactly the case.
Thanks again Ishtar for your links, I always learn allot from them
and you do encourage me.
I'm just researching and posting and expressing myself. I've toned
down my aggressiveness as best as I can, in general. I initially
reacted to cat only being human, not a robot.
Also I know abs through email, he is a fellow researcher in the
Urantia truth, that's ok. Nothing wrong with that, he expresses
himself like we all do. He seems like a nice bloke. I invited him to
check out the research when I started posting the research. He
encouraged me to look into it further, like any good researcher
would, to leave no stone unturned.
I proceeded spending countless ours, posting for the benefit and
then you get provocations from cat.
Course I'm going to get all pissed off and react.
Anyway I wont pursue Cat. III behave myself with him, if he wants to
play games and waste time no worries, III carry one and be polite to
him.
Regarding his posts, I'm not going to search for his posts. How
about a bit on the run stuff, today's discoveries not yesterdays
from 3 years, if at all.
Its a different climate now new discoveries have been made, new
discoveries in literature have been discovered now. Lets see how the
hypothesis of 3 years fits today in light of this continual process.
Thanks for reviewing the information. I assume you have, hopefully. I started
this years ago to see if I could find a pathway in the bible and The BC books
that priests studied before Christ to the location of Cyprus for the Christian
faith.
I believe there is a definite pathway to Eden in the Bible with a message. Feel
free to use any scripture and interpretation that helps you formulate a positive
construct for your group for study and research. No worries its for the body.
I feel we are in a testing period and should be prepared within ourselves and be
aware of the signs and discoveries as they occur. Your one of the few Christians
that I know that has shown support for my posts and I appreciate it.
I feel things and realities are just travelling along and forming and the time
is coming somewhere, sometime. I think the best thing to do is really adhere to
the scriptures even more concisely that will be the life raft for the planet.
I'm sure of that.
The location is just sitting there and there is preparation for discovery and
the Father is very much involved in the events, the climax of spiritual forces
are building all around, as you can see. I have no idea if there is a
postponment. I just have faith that the Lord will move his hand to lay a path so
that the expedition goes to plan in quest for Atlantis and Eden. Even in amidst
war, all abound and the light of truth in the sea peace will shine forth as the
representatives of the universe descend upon this planet and deal with this
terrible state of stress and bring peace and universal government, the Paradise
Government to Earth with physical representatives.
Notice Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, is Daniel and is head
magician
17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers,
watchers is important,
23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven,
[/QB]
Ishtar, I found the above piece real
interesting, I note the decree from the watcher, like the power of deity decree
from Bolivia. From the same people who made the Seal of Mari next to the
location and the map of it.
The in the following the appearance and result of the decree. It seems to have
the same parallels of the today, a decree, a discovery, a proclamation and a
result of the same scenario as in Daniel.
How interesting is that and Daniel foresaw this.
What about this, Cyrus the shepherd of the Lord, a Persian helps in the
rebuilding of the second temple, now look at the leader of the 2nd expedition of
Cyprus , look at his linage and look at what he has opened up in, what I believe
in reestablishment of Zion, the Lords original place, temple, the foundation,
the original cornerstone. Also look at the name Cyrus like Cyprus.
The the confusing thing look at the politics.
Also if Akkadians where in charge of Mesopotamia and the king, who had a thirst
for knowledge it would make sense that he send out ships in search for truth
from Sumeria or inland to Japan and then across the Pacific.
They eventually discovered Bolivia/Peru and admixed with the Inca of whom the
new arrivals left there religions and knowledge which they impressed upon the
natives through race and culture. In addition they left a behind prophecy in
faith that would one day synchronise with world events and give further
assurance to the hypothesis of the end times. Its a voice from the past and it
resonates today.
Posted:
Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: Atlantis
Yes I am amazed by the pictures,
particulary the curved canal looking features at the base of the Acropolis
Hill. It seems that the Acropolis Hill was shaped in the same way. Curved
and circular. Looks very much manmade. I am amazed by the springs on top of
the Hill running down through the canals, I found in a recent discovery that
the Seal of Mari found in the Syrian museum. I feel a depction of the
location. Note the 2 springs on top of the Hill, similar to the courtyard in
Vatcian. 2 fountains, note the 7 concentric circles that surround the
springs. If you look at the top of the hill of Cyprus you can see the two
coplanar circular canals.
Also note the 12 gates below which allowed access to the location. Or could
it be the city surrounding the Hill.
This seal Akkaddian and originates from the 3500BC mark, 5500 years ago and
originates next to the location and is related to Ugarit scripts.
I think this is a incredible find.
regards
sevens
Hey Ideopraxist.
I reckon forget about looking for evidence for the Israelites in
Egyptian records, I reckon if there was a full interpretation of the
Tablets of Elba. I reckon you would find a fairly comprehensive
record of the Abram times and all the characters involved.
Dates does vary so III go the UB dates of in around 1970-1900 BC for
Abraham.
I sense that there is a huge record of there of the whole scenario
of around that time.
I must say the Semites had large empire going on before Abraham
Yeah thank God for puters, for sure, makes life and research so much
better.
Gee I don't why they are all in dispute today they are all more or
less the same family and look at em, fighting cannot get there act
together!
Its a useless affair religion and politics going no where fast.
Here is read of Melchezidek which includes Abraham and could be used
with the Elba tablets and the Bible to pinpoint truth with greater
accuracy.
It was 1,973 years
before the birth of Jesus that Machiventa was bestowed upon the
human races of Urantia. His coming was unspectacular; his
materialization was not witnessed by human eyes. He was first
observed by mortal man on that eventful day when he entered the
tent of Amdon, a Chaldean herder of Sumerian extraction. And the
proclamation of his mission was embodied in the simple statement
which he made to this shepherd, "I am Melchizedek, priest of El
Elyon, the Most High, the one and only God."
I thought the date could be used to back engineer. I noticed many
dates given do vary from one researcher to another. I figure the UB,
an accurate book. I thought I would work on this date given in the
above.
Could be a good study. I get the feeling that the dates given in our
history are out to a degree. You knows maybe the date above might
give us a more accurate timeline on our history with respect to the
area and its politics.
Also, from what I heard the 2nd
Expedition is still on track, They wont be able to do as as they want but its on
track, not sure on the dates but hopefully next month sometime. Note this could
change because of this disastrous and waste of time war in Israel. Over religion
and power the usual rubbish.
I wish they stop fighting and get there act together particularly the ones who
perpetuate this nonsense, whoever it is.
Anyway that's not going stop God in this adventure and neither the project. I
just have faith in that and I will believe it and it will happen as ordained by
the Kingdom of Heaven. Nothing will stop heaven at this time. Any attempt from
an evil point of view will be thwarted instantly.
Remembering that this truth is in background of all this folly and it has teeth,
Big Teeth. These leaders should take note particularly the religious controlled
types in power. But they are to blind to see by there own religious lusts
intermingled with power and doctrine gone crazy.
This is the test for them, I tell you what, what a failure at the end of the
day, like going back in the dark ages and especially in light of all this
beautiful truth realising itself through discovery and exploration. God/Man
working together for peace and prosperity for all not the other rubbish.
A far better and peaceful fence to be sitting on. There will be no prizes or
nothing for those who perpetuate terror. Absolutely nothing!!!! Total waste of
human resources for such folly.
Im looking at similarities of the Sumerian writing and symbols in Sumeria to see
if I can find similarities as to the Sumerian evidence found in Bolivia.
Here is a link to tablet that has the same rectangular features as in the bowl.
Its a direct match and clears up the Sth America mystery relating to the
transfer of Mesopotamian knowledge to the land of the Inca and to the
surrounding tribes in the general area.
Mesopotamia is the source knowledge, through the Andites that spread to the
Inca.
Note the star symbol on this Sumerian Black seal, I know there are more symbols
like this around.
In my mind there is no question that the Sumerian/Akaddian explorers reached the
Land of the Inca and relayed there knowledge which perpetuated throughout the
region in most main cultures over time.
They estimate the time of contact around 5,500 years ago.
That's pretty good to me. Hard to refute this evidence.
What about that piece about Jesus, he supports Jihad.
How is that possible, he admonished us to love neighbours, to love
and forgive. How is logically possible that Jesus would support
Jihad.
I think personally there is more truth amongst us that reveals
greater accuracy and a better message I just read.
I do find it interesting how there talking about change, about
something rising up. On a spiritual level there also talking about
something. Well I something is going to happen in the short I would
suggest my current thought hypothesis would offer more a life than
that Jihad.
As far as I'm concerned they are all in prophecy and identified in
Isaiah as the scribe who counts the towers and made them fall. In
Enoch 99:6 they are the ones who seek terror and find ways to do it
of which no one will help.
Its interesting while they have been forming there own hypothesis
about the end we have to amongst ourselves in discovering the truth
behind all this. I would think what we have discovering promotes the
message of peace is far better way to go and to explore that does
not take free will away. I believe the scriptures in our
explorations and discoveries in love is truly blessed with
information that will last and will eventually over come terror.
Look at the contrast and what they say. I personally think they are
playing out prophecy at this time. Surrounding Israel step by step.
Just in light of our discussions Eden is in the background and even
in the short time we can look back and already see events playing
out as read in the scriptures.
I have faith in the current path and the discoveries, our
discoveries. I believe its all leading somewhere good. The terror we
read is the kinds of things that will be dealt with as read. The
potency in our discoveries are real as compared to the other
message. We read the mysteries, discover and explore them, then
release them for scrutiny and research, its honest, open. I think
that's a truth in itself.
It a ridiculous situation and just an example of living in the past
without vision of the future drawn from the future. The saga
continues and the players seem to be more real as we observe and
look at things. Im sure these events are in the timeline as we have
been discovering and exploring. Just think, Eden in the background
and the message it promotes and you have the sons in quarrel at its
doorstep. Gee, come on guys.
You know in the spiritual you have the Trinity of Paradise present
and they observe this and they are from the highest levels and the
whole universe on every level witnessing this event and look at man.
Promoting wars of hatred, seen from the universe prospective this is
filth and will be cleaned out and the meek shall inherit the earth.
The people promoting the terror wilfully are blind to this, they
sense a second coming or change but they don't recognise or reflect
upon the actions in accordance to the 10 commandments. While they
pull the stick our of there brothers eye, they have log in there
own.
We know were not perfect but least we are trying to discover the
honest truth with an honest heart in peace and I know that will be
blessed and is blessed.
All the best everyone. Know there is some good light at the end of
the tunnel.
Because the bible and all the other scripts tells us so!
sevens
I was thinking I discovered last night there are 10 days to go on the test of
man when I proclaimed it. Well... see what happens, you never know!!! Lets see
how the reality shapes in this time as mystery unfolds. Lets have faith in the
scripts to combat this terror promotion. If its not in 10 days it could be
related to what's on the Acropolis Hill as what I've seen in the scripts notably
in Daniel and in Revelation. The stone cut out of the mountain and the measuring
of the temple, the face of his Testamony.
In regards to what they discover depends on what equipment they use. From what I
understand they'll use a sub bottom profiler that will penetrate the mud. I'm
not sure whether a R.O.V will be available because of war.
But anyway see what happens its all in our hands and in the Fathers hands. With
what I write and research is in faith, I hope its right.
all the best and lets see what the path unfolds as we walk this mystery and in
real life.
sevens
notice that the following
tablet on the top is similiar to the Mari Seal with the 2 springs on
the Acropolis Mount or the holy mountain. Look at the top of this
tablet.
Looking at it again its the 12 gates and the springs on top of the
Hill and the wall. However even though it could be seen stars but it
seems to fit the Mari seal
I know it can look like the 2 stars and an upside down crescent
moon. But if you looked at it from a mountain point of view. It
could look like 2 springs either side of the central ring where the
tree of life stood on top of the Acropolis Hill. 3 coplanar rings on
the hill?
Know the 12 gates and walled paths across the isthmus had 12 grand
divisions between the paths filled with all manner of wild beasts as
a part of the defense system of Eden. So that's 24 gates in total 12
outer gates and 12 inner gates, 12 pathways between them. If you
look at Russian bathymetric data you can see resemblance of the gate
system as they may have been built on a ridge system. then the 12
divisions on the flat piece and then onto next ridge with the inner
system of gates.
In the tablet below those rectangular shapes seem to symbolize the
walled pathways of the gates and the gate system. The wild beats and
serpents and scorpions in the middle section between the gates
appear to symbolize the 12 grand divisions.
For anyone interested here is the Urantia account of the 12 gates
Link
A zoological garden was created by building a smaller wall just
outside the main wall; the intervening space, occupied by
all manner of wild beasts, served as an additional defense
against hostile attacks. This menagerie was organized in twelve
grand divisions, and walled paths led between these groups to the
twelve gates of the Garden, the river and its adjacent
pastures occupying the central area.
So as you can read and see in the tablet above are the same thing as
with the Mari Seal. There is a commonality in type and in design,
both stones have the same representation and do have connections
with the rectangular shapes of the Sumerian bowl found in Bolivia.
Also Lake Titicaca was built in type to the location of Cyprus as
there now seems to be a link to Mesopotamia, it would make sense
that myth and religious knowledge would transmit and its message
today.
It kind of makes sense when there is some scripts that descibes the
place.
Heres some Ugarit scripts that describes the location. Note the
references to
s springs, two rivers, the deep, enthroned, palace, channels, deep,
the kinf, father of years, like in Book of the Dead. All remninscent
of the land of the location.
KYU is Ugarit script
The reference to "deep calling to deep" is based in the Canaanite
notion that the cosmic mountain where El makes his abode joins the
heavenly "Deep" (cf. Genesis 1:6) with the subterranean "deep"
contained within the mountain (cf. Job 28:9-11, 38:16-17). In the
Ugaritic Baal Epic, we read of the god Kothar heading "toward El
at the springs of the Double-Rivers, amidst the channels of the
Double-Deeps. He comes to the mountain of El and enters the tent
of the King, the Father of Years" (KTU 1.2 III 4-5). Similarly, in
another myth El's mountain palace is said to lie "at the springs
of the Two Rivers, at the meeting place of the Double-Deeps (mbk
nhrm b'dt thmtm, KTU 1.100 R 1-4). In the OT, we also read how
Yahweh "builds his palace on the waters above" and "sits enthroned
on the Flood" (Psalm 29:10; 104:2-3), and Ezekiel 28:2 has the
Phoenician king declare: "I am El ('l), in the dwelling of the
gods ('lhym); I dwell in the mid
and then you the Cannanite thoughts of the same place. Note the
words., Zion, holy hill, ancients gates (there in writing), holy
place, mountain, city of God, Gehenna, cosmic mountain, associated
with disaster.
Thus in Psalm 2:6-8,
Yahweh calls Zion "my holy hill," in Psalm 24:1-8 "Yahweh the
warrior" enters through the "ancient gates" of his "holy place" in
the "mountain of Yahweh", and in Psalm 46:4, the "city of God" is
called "the holy place where the Most High dwells." Zion appears
to be the mountain described in 1 Enoch 26, from which a deep
valley descends -- the "accursed valley" where the souls of the
wicked are tormented (i.e. Gehenna) according to 1 Enoch 27.
According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol lies at the base of the cosmic
mountain, and it is only natural for the deep valley below it to
be associated with the underworld.
In Ugarit script again, this place seems tio have a message that is
associated with the deluge, but also is a message of the future and
the purpose of this place in regards to the end of the rebellion,
which I feel is relevant for todays message.
"As the Abysses boil
above the foundations of the waters, their towering waves and
billows shall rage with the voice of their roaring; and as they
rage, Sheol and Abaddon shall open and all the flying arrows of
the Pit shall send out their voice to the Abyss. (the reflection
of the deluge used in the reflection of the future.)
And the gates of Sheol shall open on all the works of vanity and
the doors of the Pit shall close on the conceivers of
wickedness..... The torrents of Belial shall break into Abaddon,
and the deeps of the Abyss shall groan amid the roar of the
heaving mud....
(A voice comes from this place, it makes itslef obvious, it cries
from the deep. I think its a message for today. I feel it has to
do with this terror and wilfull destruction.)
The heavenly hosts shall cry out and the world's foundations shall
swagger and sway....The deeps resound to my groaning and my soul
has journeyed to the gates of death. (1QH 11:16-19, 32-35)
(There you go Heaven reacts and the perpetrators are dealt with.)
From Ugarit scripts, unbelievable not to mention the message from
Bolivia.
So all the stones seem to have a message, they seem to be talking
some how through its art and its truth.
Also I've seen 3 circles in a co planar fashion in other seals, bit I lost track
of them. I think they are significant and further supports the idea, also I
think the 3 circles resembles not only the canals on the Acropolis Hill but the
Paradise Trinity in a cosmic sense.
Just follow the arrows it a little messy.
Is this what they mean by the sacred stones, a map to the land of the Gods
A four winged angels, like the one
described in Ezekiel, actually there Seraphims. Can be a look into the Nephilim
or the Annanuki in this stone, the watchers!!
Its interesting all the realities going on now in the world is very much apart
of the spiritual reality! Spiritual forces in the kingdoms of men. I thank God
for Jesus and his great message.
Here is a link to Dilmun in Bahrain close to the original home of the Nephilim
in physical many thousands of years ago, before our known recognised history.
Further travels of the Andites that leads to figure from the
past waving hello to us
A four winged angels, like
the one described in Ezekiel, actually there Seraphims. Can be a
look into the Nephilim or the Annanuki in this stone, the watchers!!
Its interesting all the realities going on now in the world is very
much apart of the spiritual reality! Spiritual forces in the
kingdoms of men. I thank God for Jesus and his great message.
Now the final step in
the Eye journey and a message from the past, greeting us in working
out this mystery. All the way from Peru , the Nazca lines. All
seen beforehand, from the lost generation of the Andites in Peru. Say
hi!
What a sense of Humor the early Sumerian/Inca had.
I would take that as a confirmation of the journey from
Mesopotamia to Peru with a between 5000 -10,000 year or more year message and wave for today
for today's generation in the transition and change of knowledge.
Here is a link to Dilmun in Bahrain close to the original home of
the Nephilim in physical many thousands of years ago, before our
known recognized history.
Also I've seen 3 circles in a co planar fashion in other seals, bit I lost track
of them. I think they are significant and further supports the idea, also I
think the 3 circles resembles not only the canals on the Acropolis Hill but the
Paradise Trinity in a cosmic sense.
Just follow the arrows it a little messy.
Is this what they mean by the sacred stones, a map to the land of the Gods
Here is seven concentric circle seal, the same representation as in The Mari
Seal which in my mind depicts the springs on top of the Acropolis Hill. To me it
seems like a connection symbolism, part of the mysteries of mysteries,
time/space unification in meaning for me.
Source Link
Just scroll down and look at the images and it relation to Sumerian
commonalities.
Also the whale image in my mind is the isle of the Gods of Cyprus another map.
Note the isthmus and the river outline in the middle running out of the
location.
And the island jutting out of coastal outline.
Again in the Hummingbird image in the link above To me it looks an outline of an
island connected to the mainland by an isthmus, like in the location?
This must be the confirmation surely,
here another Olmec version.
Another Version of the Tree of Life
The Eye of Creation and the Snake=Human DNA
To me it look like another depiction of the isle of the Gods with the tree of
life present, the isle is like a tree but looking at it from an lisand point of
view it could look like the location connected by an isthmus with two gates
running across the isthmus as you can see. And you can see the 3 co-planar
circles at the base of the tree.
Tells the same story and all the characters are in the saga.
Note the tree of life perpetuation from the Americas
I went to the pic and went to the link and briefed through it, amazed. All the
same features, I read about the 7 cities, surrounded by 7 hills...incredible.
The whole story seems like the Atlantis story for sure.
The one thing that will determine much would be the result of core samples in
around the location of Cyprus. I say around 34,000 years ago, the deluge others
say 14,000 years or less. Unfortunately I dont think they will be doing core
samples in this next expedition because of the war. So the debate will rage on
for a while yet.
Im thinking in my heart that the legend migrated up there through the family way
in the past by a truth seeker within the family or the family are actual
descendants and survivors of the Atlanteans and migrated and brought the legend
with them.
The Adamite's did penetrate Europe after the deluge. I enjoyed the UB parallels,
like to Vaner has links to Van, Lake Van Turkey, where Van custodian of the tree
lived 150,000 years ago to 38,0000. Van built a civilisation, the forerunners of
the Urartians. Van built the Garden of Eden/Atlantis Cyprus and transplanted the
tree of life on the location. Adam and Eve materialised and ate of the tree for
100 years and were expelled.
Note the Sevens and the deluge.
Note that on the location the Acropolis Hill is surrounded by seven hills.
To me it describes the location and everything. However its the core samples
that will tell the story.
All the best
thanks sevens
Hi Im on the tablet thing.
Here is a link to the Tablets of Elba, dates vary from 2400BC to 3500BC.
somewhere I say the record of Abraham 1970BC
All the information has links to the seal of Mari in my view.
Al have aspects of patriarchs and is thought to have information of the
Melchizedeks and information on Abraham and Sodom and Gommorah.
I reckon forget about looking for evidence for the Israelites in
Egyptian records, I reckon if there was a full interpretation of the
Tablets of Elba. I reckon you would find a fairly comprehensive
record of the Abram times and all the characters involved.
Dates does vary so III go the UB dates of in around 1970-1870 BC for
Abraham.
I sense that there is a huge record of there of the whole scenario
of around that time.
I must say the Semites had large empire going on before Abraham
Yeah thank God for puters, for sure, makes life and research so much
better.
Gee I don't why they are all in dispute today they are all more or
less the same family and look at em, fighting cannot get there act
together!
Its a useless affair religion and politics going no where fast.
Here is read of Melchezidek which includes Abraham and could be used
with the Elba tablets and the Bible to pinpoint truth with greater
accuracy.
It was 1,973 years
before the birth of Jesus that Machiventa was bestowed upon the
human races of Urantia. His coming was unspectacular; his
materialization was not witnessed by human eyes. He was first
observed by mortal man on that eventful day when he entered the
tent of Amdon, a Chaldean herder of Sumerian extraction. And the
proclamation of his mission was embodied in the simple statement
which he made to this shepherd, "I am Melchizedek, priest of El
Elyon, the Most High, the one and only God."
I thought the date could be used to back engineer. I noticed many
dates given do vary from one researcher to another. I figure the UB,
an accurate book. I thought I would work on this date given in the
above.
Could be a good study. I get the feeling that the dates given in our
history are out to a degree. You knows maybe the date above might
give us a more accurate timeline on our history with respect to the
area and its politics.
Also, from what I heard the 2nd
Expedition is still on track, They wont be able to do as as they want but its on
track, not sure on the dates but hopefully next month sometime. Note this could
change because of this disastrous and waste of time war in Israel. Over religion
and power the usual rubbish.
I wish they stop fighting and get there act together particularly the ones who
perpetuate this nonsense, whoever it is.
Anyway that's not going stop God in this adventure and neither the project. I
just have faith in that and I will believe it and it will happen. Nothing will
stop heaven at this time. No one is going to stop the quest for truth, beauty
and goodness. No way!
Remembering that this truth is in background of all this folly and it has teeth,
Big Teeth. These leaders should take note particularly the religious controlled
types in power. But they are to blind to see by there own religious lusts
intermingled with power and doctrine gone crazy.
This is the test for them, I tell you what, what a failure at the end of the
day, like going back in the dark ages and especially in light of all this
beautiful truth realising itself through discovery and exploration. God/Man
working together for peace and prosperity for all not the other rubbish.
A far better and peaceful fence to be sitting on. There will be no prizes for
those who perpetuate conflict. Total waste of human resources for such folly.
I notice that the following
tablet on the top is similiar to the Mari Seal with the 2 springs on
the Acropolis Mount or the holy mountain. Look at the top of this
tablet.
Looking at it again its the 12 gates and the springs on top of the
Hill and the wall. However even though it could be seen stars but it
seems to fit the Mari seal
I know it can look like the 2 stars and an upside down crescent
moon. But if you looked at it from a mountain point of view. It
could look like 2 springs either side of the central ring where the
tree of life stood on top of the Acropolis Hill. 3 coplanar rings on
the hill?
Know the 12 gates and walled paths across the isthmus had 12 grand
divisions btween the paths filled with all manner of wild beasts as
a part of the defense system of Eden. So that's 24 gates in total 12
outer gates and 12 inner gates, 12 pathways between them. If you
look at Russian bathymetric data you can see resemblance of the gate
system as they may have been built on a ridge system. then the 12
divisions on the flat piece and then onto next ridge with the inner
system of gates.
In the tablet below those rectangular shapes seem to symbolize the
walled pathways of the gates and the gate system. The wild beats and
serpents and scorpions in the middle section between the gates
appear to symbolize the 12 grand divisions.
For anyone interested here is the Urantia account of the 12 gates
Link
A zoological garden was created by building a smaller wall just
outside the main wall; the intervening space, occupied by
all manner of wild beasts, served as an additional defense
against hostile attacks. This menagerie was organized in twelve
grand divisions, and walled paths led between these groups to the
twelve gates of the Garden, the river and its adjacent
pastures occupying the central area.
So as you can read and see in the tablet above are the same thing as
with the Mari Seal. There is a commonality in type and in design,
both stones have the same representation and do have connections
with the rectangular shapes of the Sumerian bowl found in Bolivia.
Also Lake Titicaca was built in type to the location of Cyprus as
there now seems to be a link to Mesopotamia, it would make sense
that myth and religious knowledge would transmit and its message
today.
It kind of makes sense when there is some scripts that descibes the
place.
Heres some Ugarit scripts that describes the location. Note the
references to
2 springs, two rivers, the deep, enthroned, palace, channels, deep,
the king, father of years, like in Book of the Dead. All reminscent
of the land of the location.
KYU is Ugarit script
The reference to "deep calling to deep" is based in the Canaanite
notion that the cosmic mountain where El makes his abode joins the
heavenly "Deep" (cf. Genesis 1:6) with the subterranean "deep"
contained within the mountain (cf. Job 28:9-11, 38:16-17). In the
Ugaritic Baal Epic, we read of the god Kothar heading "toward El
at the springs of the Double-Rivers, amidst the channels of the
Double-Deeps. He comes to the mountain of El and enters the tent
of the King, the Father of Years" (KTU 1.2 III 4-5). Similarly, in
another myth El's mountain palace is said to lie "at the springs
of the Two Rivers, at the meeting place of the Double-Deeps (mbk
nhrm b'dt thmtm, KTU 1.100 R 1-4). In the OT, we also read how
Yahweh "builds his palace on the waters above" and "sits enthroned
on the Flood" (Psalm 29:10; 104:2-3), and Ezekiel 28:2 has the
Phoenician king declare: "I am El ('l), in the dwelling of the
gods ('lhym); I dwell in the mid
and then you the Cannanite thoughts of the same place. Note the
words., Zion, holy hill, ancients gates (there in writing), holy
place, mountain, city of God, Gehenna, cosmic mountain, associated
with disaster.
Thus in Psalm 2:6-8,
Yahweh calls Zion "my holy hill," in Psalm 24:1-8 "Yahweh the
warrior" enters through the "ancient gates" of his "holy place" in
the "mountain of Yahweh", and in Psalm 46:4, the "city of God" is
called "the holy place where the Most High dwells." Zion appears
to be the mountain described in 1 Enoch 26, from which a deep
valley descends -- the "accursed valley" where the souls of the
wicked are tormented (i.e. Gehenna) according to 1 Enoch 27.
According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol lies at the base of the cosmic
mountain, and it is only natural for the deep valley below it to
be associated with the underworld.
In Ugarit script again, this place seems to have a similar message
that is associated with the deluge, but also is a message of the
future and the purpose of this place in regards to the end of the
rebellion, which I feel is relevant for today's message.
"As the Abysses boil
above the foundations of the waters, their towering waves and
billows shall rage with the voice of their roaring; and as they
rage, Sheol and Abaddon shall open and all the flying arrows of
the Pit shall send out their voice to the Abyss.
(the reflection of the deluge used in the reflection of the future
of potential earth changes.)
And the gates of Sheol shall open on all the works of vanity and
the doors of the Pit shall close on the conceivers of
wickedness..... The torrents of Belial shall break into Abaddon,
and the deeps of the Abyss shall groan amid the roar of the
heaving mud....
(A voice comes from this place, it makes itself obvious, it cries
from the deep. I think its a message for today. I feel it has to
do with this terror and wilfull destruction.)
The heavenly hosts shall cry out and the world's foundations shall
swagger and sway....The deeps resound to my groaning and my soul
has journeyed to the gates of death. (1QH 11:16-19, 32-35)
(There you go Heaven reacts and the perpetrators are dealt with
and implies earth changes.)
From Ugarit scripts, unbelievable not to mention the message from
Bolivia.
So all the stones seem to have a message, they seem to be talking
some how through its art and its truth.
And note this message comes from all the surrounding regions of the
area that were related to 1stEden and note that a voice from the
past is making it voice felt today, Like a warning from the past,
from the pit.
However, we don't have to worry because we know the truth and
understand the true message of the place which is truth, beauty and
goodness. The Jesus message of love and forgiveness and move
forward. That is I feel is the life raft through this journey,
through the valley of the shadow of death. Look at what is being
promoted today. Have faith it all turn out ok.
So now in the current timeline you have.
Isreal surrounded by
people who want to destroy it.
A people who want hegemony over a large part of the area.
You have a voice from the past religions of the area warning us of
judgement through the stones.
You have the discovery 1st Eden/Atlantis.
You have timeline markers that can be recognised.
You have a conjunction in the scripts that harmonise with science.
You have a message of peace and message of destruction of those
who seek destruction wilfully upon others.
Its a real space/time unification going on here with revelation and
reality forming a oneness in truth and how it plays out.
There seems to be many connections here of a great saga, a great
spiritual battle. Like watching the movies and we are the actors in
physical and you have the spiritual actors and the earth. Its
interesting.
Also I've seen 3 circles in a co planar fashion in other seals, bit I lost track
of them. I think they are significant and further supports the idea, also I
think the 3 circles resembles not only the canals on the Acropolis Hill but the
Paradise Trinity in a cosmic sense.
Just follow the arrows it a little messy.
Is this what they mean by the sacred stones, a map to the land of the Gods
A four winged angels, like
the one described in Ezekiel, actually there Seraphim's. Can be a
look into the Nephilim or the Annanuki in this stone, the watchers!!
Its interesting all the realities going on now in the world is very
much apart of the spiritual reality! Spiritual forces in the
kingdoms of men. I thank God for Jesus and his great message.
Now the final step in
the Eye journey and a message from the past, greeting us in working
out this mystery. All the way from Peru , the Nazca lines. The saw
it all beforehand, from the lost generation. Say hi!
I would take that as a confirmation of the journey from
Mesopotamia to Peru with 5500 year old message and wave for today.
April 11
2007: Now that we are further down the
track we see the waving hand of the waving man of Dilmun with a
triangular headdress.
Dilmun, the home of the original Andites.
Also
note: Now that we are further down in the timeline the
relevance of the messages of the Seven tablets
seem more relevant now that we have identified the
breach of Dilmun and perhaps in Isaiah
in the sevenfold timeline regarding the breach, a conjunction of
manifestation, truth and point of realisation.
and now consider this thread of thought and
discovery of the Breach of Dilmun
also
further mystery Does the "double deeps" as referred to
excerpts in the Sevens tablet refer to the two locations of
discovery,
Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel. The two locations of the
Seven commands discovery?
Here is a link to Dilmun in Bahrain close to the original home of
the Nephilim in physical many thousands of years ago, before our
known recognized history.
Here is seven concentric circle seal, the same representation as in The Mari
Seal which in my mind depicts the springs on top of the Acropolis Hill. To me it
seems like a connection symbolism, part of the mysteries of mysteries,
time/space unification in meaning for me.
Source Link
Just scroll down and look at the images and it relation to Sumerian
commonalities.
Also the whale image in my mind is the isle of the Gods of Cyprus another map.
Note the isthmus and the river outline in the middle running out of the
location.
And the island jutting out of coastal outline.
Again in the Hummingbird image in the link above To me it looks an outline of an
island connected to the mainland by an isthmus, like in the location?
This must be the confirmation surely,
here another Olmec version.
Another Version of the Tree of Life
The Eye of Creation and the Snake=Human DNA
To me it look like another depiction of the isle of the Gods with the tree of
life present, the isle is like a tree but looking at it from an island point of
view it could look like the location connected by an isthmus with two gates
running across the isthmus as you can see. And you can see the 3 co-planar
circles at the base of the tree.
Tells the same story and all the characters are in the saga.
Note the tree of life perpetuation from the Americas
I went to the pic and went to the link and briefed through it, amazed. All the
same features, I read about the 7 cities, surrounded by 7 hills...incredible.
The whole story seems like the Atlantis story for sure.
The one thing that will determine much would be the result of core samples in
around the location of Cyprus. I say around 34,000 years ago, the deluge others
say 14,000 years or less. Unfortunately I dont think they will be doing core
samples in this next expedition becuase of the war. So the debate will rage on
for a while yet.
Im thinking in my heart that the legend migrated up there through the family way
in the past by a truth seeker within the family or the family are actual
descendants and survivors of the Atlanteans and migrated and brought the legend
with them.
The Admaites did penetrate Europe after the deluge. I enjoyed the UB parallels,
like to Vaner has links to Van, Lake Van Turkey, where Van custodian of the tree
lived 150,000 years ago to 38,0000. Van built a civilisation, the forerunners of
the Urartians. Van built the Garden of Eden/Atlantis Cyprus and transplanted the
tree of life on the location. Adam and Eve materialised and ate of the tree for
100 years and were expelled.
Note the Sevens and the deluge.
Note that on the location the Acropolis Hill is surrounded by seven hills.
To me it describes the location and everything. However its the core samples
that will tell the story.
April 11th 2007
Read the following post The Beginnings of the
search for Dalamatia
Hi Rockessence.
I know its a big study, I briefed through it as quick as could to
give you some reply. I have to go through it methodically, I tried
listening to a audio tape but I couldn't understand the person very
well. But it seems like a very old family legend, it quite amazing
that a record like this could survive all those years.
Its funny all these discoveries, when you put the pieces together,
and still there that 10% of wandering or is it right with anything.
That's where I think science really helps as it helps make
determination.
I really appreciate the link and will study it, What about the cave
and the rock seal. The size of it!
Its quite incredible how there seems to be links to the tree of life
all over the world or at least some mythology where the fruit of a
tree gave immortality. Ive been researching the tree aspect and
following it through to Dilmun, near where the home of the Nephilim
lived. Apparently Sumerian texts has a record of this mythical land
of the Gods that was between 2 seas,
(11 April 2007 could be a peninsula,
like in dilmun), the very birth of civilisation.
Then you go North East Cyprus, where the Adamics also had the tree
of life for a short time They also held the legend in there myths in
the 2nd garden which became confused in the record of the tree.
Dalamatia was a place I feel, that may have been located off Bahrain
on a submerged spit of land between 2 seas that connected to the
mainland. The place was submerged after a tidal wave 150,000 then
re emerged, then to resubmerge again. However from what I read there
are vestiges still left of the lost city. However
Here is a link of a sketch I put together sometime ago, its only speculation, it
could one of a couple of places, either Bahrain or near the mouth of
the Mesopotamian rivers.
Having a look at it, I would say the Mesopotamia option looks the
most compelling as it fits the story and you have anomalous objects
seen there with they look symmetrical.
Early links Where do you think the
lost city of
Dalamatia exists.
It might help piece the overall picture, to have a hypothesis and
then back engineer to see if the evidence fits.
You know I think a new study should be launched into the Sumerian
tablets in light of this new knowledge and discovery. Looking at it
from this point of view.
11 April 2007
Look where are now. We have discovered all the ancient
places 1stEden,Dalamatia, Dilmun,Babel and the
Adamson
civilisation and have revealed the places where its knowledge is
needed most on the run. The journey has elevated so much and
has hit no dead ends.
Also in the above was an initial search I did
for the ancient places.
The Discovery of Dalamatia
down in the timeline.
Early thoughts.
Where do you think the lost city of
Dalamatia exists.
Hi Ideopraxist
I read Life on The Other Side of the Flood that was great. I really enjoyed that
and felt it was balanced. I could see the face in the stone, it was quite
amazing seeing it pop out like that, These stones are so unusual aren't they.
Its been flat out here following the path to see if I can uncover more,
uncovering more stones trying to see whats on them, under them. You know.
What did you think of those wall relief's of the Angels harvesting the fruits of
the tree of life. I thought the high res pics where majestic. Certainly a story
of the past, Im just thinking about it relevance for today.
If its right where this is all leading, the tree of life could very much be
apart of the future. Seeing those majestic relief's but in context to the reality
could be significant to today.
Rising out of the stone.
Anyway Im sure all this, everything links up and all points to the message of
the day, somehow. Finding all these clues of the ancients being led here, there,
everywhere is a real journey in itself. In both physical and spiritual its a
real oneness.
Just some thoughts.
all the best and enjoyed your links.
regards
sevens
Hi
Been following the Seven track to find out more on a spiritual level
and how Sevenfold ties in since we see Sevenfold in all culture in
one way or another. Here is what I found, its a read but interesting
and does have strong links to the Sevenfold.
Here is an extract from the UB which I think is very relevant for
today and it provides better understanding of the parallels and
linkages to all the discoveries that are happening now, in our own
individual way.
But these mistakes of the intellect in no way interfered with the
believer's great progress in growth in spirit. In less than a
month after the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth, the apostles made
more individual spiritual progress than during their almost four
years of personal and loving association with the Master. Neither
did this substitution of the fact of the resurrection of Jesus for
the saving gospel truth of sonship with God in any way interfere
with the rapid spread of their teachings; on the contrary, this
overshadowing of Jesus' message by the new teachings about his
person and resurrection seemed greatly to facilitate the preaching
of the good news.
The term "baptism of the spirit," which came into such
general use about this time, merely signified the conscious
reception of this gift of the Spirit of Truth and the personal
acknowledgment of this new spiritual power as an augmentation
of all spiritual influences previously experienced by God-knowing
souls.
Since the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth, man is subject to
the teaching and guidance of a threefold spirit endowment: the
spirit of the Father, the Thought Adjuster; the spirit of the Son,
the Spirit of Truth; the spirit of the Spirit, the Holy Spirit.
In a way, mankind is subject to the double influence of the
sevenfold appeal of the universe spirit influences. The early
evolutionary races of mortals are subject to the progressive
contact of the seven adjutant mind-spirits of the local universe
Mother Spirit. As man progresses upward in the scale of
intelligence and spiritual perception, there eventually come
to hover over him and dwell within him the seven higher spirit
influences. And these seven spirits of the advancing worlds
are:
1. The bestowed spirit of the Universal Father-the Thought
Adjusters.
2. The spirit presence of the Eternal Son--the spirit gravity of
the universe of universes and the certain channel of all spirit
communion.
3. The spirit presence of the Infinite Spirit--the universal
spirit-mind of all creation, the spiritual source of the
intellectual kinship of all progressive intelligences.
4. The spirit of the Universal Father and the Creator Son--the
Spirit of Truth, generally regarded as the spirit of the
Universe Son.
5. The spirit of the Infinite Spirit and the Universe Mother
Spirit--the Holy Spirit, generally regarded as the spirit of the
Universe Spirit.
6. The mind-spirit of the Universe Mother Spirit--the seven
adjutant mind-spirits of the local universe.
7. The spirit of the Father, Sons, and Spirits--the new-name
spirit of the ascending mortals of the realms after the fusion
of the mortal spirit-born soul with the Paradise Thought
Adjuster and after the subsequent attainment of the divinity and
glorification of the status of the Paradise Corps of the
Finality.
And so did the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth bring to the world
and its peoples the last of the spirit endowment designed to
aid in the ascending search for God.
I hope you didn't mind that but its good to explore and its the best
cosmology around as one can personally witness it in there own life.
Good information for all.
Here is another little Gem I
just found that completely confirms my explorations and discoveries
with relation to the journey to Eden through the scripts and the
Sevenfold connection with ancient and today's truth. To me it
confirms my studies in the stars constellations of Orion and its
Sevenfold connection with constellations like Orion and its starmap
links with the Sphinxes riddle and other seven connections.
I found in the following an extract out of the UB about Amos and his
association of the Father with the seven truth of the Stars and also
makes association to Orion. How Ironic, so in effect it endorsees
the research in Job 38 as well.
Said Amos: "He who formed the mountains and created the wind,
seek him who formed the seven stars and Orion, who turns the
shadow of death into the morning and makes the day dark as night."
And in denouncing his half-religious, timeserving, and
sometimes immoral fellows, he sought to portray the inexorable
justice of an unchanging Yahweh when he said of the evildoers:
"Though they dig into hell, thence shall I take them; though they
climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down." "And though
they go into captivity before their enemies, thence will I direct
the sword of justice, and it shall slay them." Amos further
startled his hearers when, pointing a reproving and accusing
finger at them, he declared in the name of Yahweh: "Surely I will
never forget any of your works." "And I will sift the house of
Israel among all nations as wheat is sifted in a sieve."
Note: the reference to Judgement!
Whats been presented in the last 2 posts is connections with the
Sevenfold, The Father, The Holy Spirit and its Sevenfold
augmentation, the Seven stars and Orion in the bible.
quote:
seek him who formed
the seven stars and Orion, who turns the shadow of death into the
morning and makes the day dark as night."
I must say this is
interesting in its direct references to Amos with the mention of the
Seven Stars and Orion, the Ancient Sethite truth. Also note its
connection to some judgement. Whilst Amos in the past was speaking
to his brethren in that time, however all good prophecy has a
duality in the timeline and its interesting to note the Authors of
the UB would insert such as statement and its connection to the
Seven Stars and Orion perhaps for this time in this conversation.
Makes you think! Whether this is a subtle endorsement from the UB
and the authors for time of realisation. Also this links with
Revelations references to the Seven Stars and the Seven Churches and
its connection to the mystery of the Sevens Stars.
Makes you really think about it.
Only time will tell.
Quite an interesting conjunction. Not to mention all the support
from Archaeology and its parallels in discovery. Im noticing more
that with all the fragments pieced together there is a very strong
conjunction of knowledge and common thread that goes straight to
Paradise and all the characters are becoming more evident as we go
in the journey.
The Supreme Being has a threefold function in the experience of
mortal man: First, he is the unifier of time-space
divinity, God the Sevenfold; second, he is the maximum of
Deity which finite creatures can actually comprehend; third,
he is mortal man's only avenue of approach to the
transcendental experience of consorting with absonite mind,
eternal spirit, and Paradise personality.
On Urantia there is a widespread belief that the purpose of a
Son's bestowal is, in some manner, to influence the attitude of
the Universal Father. But your enlightenment should indicate
that this is not true. The bestowals of
the Avonal and the Michael Sons are a necessary part of the experiential process
designed to make these Sons safe and sympathetic magistrates
and rulers of the peoples and planets of time and space.
The career of sevenfold bestowal is the supreme goal of all
Paradise Creator Sons. And all Magisterial Sons are
motivated by this same spirit of service which so abundantly
characterizes the primary Creator Sons and the Eternal Son of
Paradise.
here is a little about Jesus and might ad light to the Jesus and
Mary Magdalene.
The UB Link in the link above
On a mortal-bestowal mission a Paradise Son is always born of
woman and grows up as a male child of the realm, as Jesus did on
Urantia. These Sons of supreme service all pass from infancy
through youth to manhood just as does a human being. In every
respect they become like the mortals of the race into which they
are born. They make petitions to the Father as do the children of
the realms in which they serve. From a material viewpoint, these
human-divine Sons live ordinary lives with just one exception:
They do not beget offspring on the worlds of their sojourn; that
is a universal restriction imposed on all orders of the Paradise
bestowal Sons.
Zoroastrianism is the only Urantian creed that perpetuates the
Dalamatian and Edenic teachings about the Seven Master Spirits.
While failing to evolve the Trinity concept, it did in a
certain way approach that of God the Sevenfold. Original
Zoroastrianism was not a pure dualism; though the early teachings
did picture evil as a time co-ordinate of goodness, it was
definitely eternity-submerged in the ultimate reality of the good.
Only in later times did the belief gain credence that good and
evil contended on equal terms.
becuase I just found this on net. After reading the following rough
quote from Herodotus it appears that the Pillars of Heracles was in
a number of places besides Gilbraltor.
Here's a rough quote
from Herodotus:
In the wish to get the best information that I could on these
matters, I made a voyage to Tyre in Phoenicia, hearing
there was a temple of Heracles at that place, very highly
venerated. I visited the temple, and found it richly adorned with
a number of offerings, among which were two pillars, one of
pure gold, the other of smaragdos, shining with great
brilliancy at night.
In a conversation which I held with the priests, I inquired how
long their temple had been built, and found by their answer that
they, too, differed from the Hellenes. They said that the temple
was built at the same time that the city was founded, and that the
foundation of the city took place 2,300 years ago. (that's almost
3000BC, 5000 years ago, pretty close to Urgarit times in History.)
I thought it was interesting. There was probably pillars in the
temple of Hellenes that seems to have religious undertones, in some
ways being associated with a temple. Also assuming Pillars in the
temple of Hellenes Plato probably referred to some pillars more
close by. Perhaps!
Personaly I feel the Pillars are representative of the 12 gates that
was built across the Isthmus of the submerged location, the neck.
The 12 Gates are associated with the location and is in Parallel to
the Pillars in the temple as seen in Tyre and in Egypt. Like a
duality. This duality persisted throughout myth and Legend and in
the Plato rendition of the location.
So now we have the The Pillars of Heracles and the temple in Tyre,
Egypt and Hellenes. I suppose in Athens, I assume. Three locations
of the pillars of Heracles. Such a high concentration of Pillars of
Heracles that surround the location of Cyprus. Atlantis in my mind
and Eden. The Pillars was smashed by Heracles and the deluge
occurred and the memory perpetuated within the med.
After the first garden
was vacated by Adam, it was occupied variously by the Nodites,
Cutites, and the Suntites. It later became the dwelling
place of the northern Nodites who opposed co-operation with the
Adamites. The peninsula had been overrun by these lower-grade
Nodites for almost four thousand years after Adam left the
Garden when, in connection with the violent activity of the
surrounding volcanoes and the submergence of the Sicilian land
bridge to Africa, the eastern floor of the Mediterranean Sea sank,
carrying down beneath the waters the whole of the Edenic
peninsula. Concomitant with this vast submergence the coast line
of the eastern Mediterranean was greatly elevated. And this
I was interested in the Cutites, and the Suntites and maybe the
Northern Nodites (The Giants in mythology) where the Atlanteans that
Plato and the ancient Greeks was referring to. The ancient Greeks
being direct progeny of the eldest son of Adam, that's where they
get the notion that there heritage is from the Gods in mythology,
its a blend of truth but does have threads.
Also note the Atlanteans were the Northern Nodites, The Northern
Nodites seems to have 3 different sub cultures who controlled the
place in 4000 years.
The Northern Nodites
The Suntites
The Cutites
The only thing in can associates the Suntites is with Sun worship
culture, The Cutites maybe the Gutites where in conflict with the
Adamics, maybe.
I did a search in Google on "The Gutites" and came up the following
forum link out of nothing much. I was drawn to the following quote:
In the case of Iran, the Elamites, Susians and others also
mentioned in SEMITIC LITERATURE LIKE THE BIBLE, were the
original people in Persia and after the migrations of the
Gutites from Zagros Mountains, the mixing of races began. Yet,
for thousannds of years a certain segment of the original
population remained in the Southern part of Iran.
Here is the google search, so little info mation about the Gutites.
1. The violet race--Adamites and Adamsonites. The chief center of
Adamite culture was in the second garden, located in the triangle
of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers; this was indeed the cradle of
Occidental and Indian civilizations. The secondary or northern
center of the violet race was the Adamsonite headquarters,
situated east of the southern shore of the Caspian Sea near the
Kopet mountains. From these two centers there went forth to the
surrounding lands the culture and life plasm which so immediately
quickened all the races.
Here is a little something of where the early Greeks came from
This center of civilization was situated in the region east of
the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short
way up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was
onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In
these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile
belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range, there
successively arose at various periods four diverse cultures
respectively fostered by four different groups of Adamson's
descendants. It was the second of these groups which
migrated westward to Greece and the islands of the Mediterranean.
The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated north and west to
enter Europe with the blended stock of the last Andite wave
coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered among
the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.
This could one of the Cultures that were in conflict with the
Atlanteans The Gutites/The Cutites or The Northern Nodites?? Could
this be the third culture that took over Atlantis after the
expulsion of Adam?
Eden being inhabited by the Adamic originally.
Ok looking at it further Looks all these cultures as mentioned above
where sub cultures of the Northern Nodites and here is a little
something about them.
When Adam elected to leave the first garden to the Nodites
unopposed, he and his followers could not go west, for the
Edenites had no boats suitable for such a marine adventure. They
could not go north; the northern Nodites were already on the march
toward Eden. They feared to go south; the hills of that region
were infested with hostile tribes. The only way open was to the
east, and so they journeyed eastward toward the then pleasant
regions between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. And many of those
who were left behind later journeyed eastward to join the Adamites
in their new valley home.
No worries Im probably a little off
topic, got carried away.
I just wanted to explore the possible connection with the Egyptians and
Atlantean cultures that inhabited the location before the deluge.
Actually, thinking about it after reading the post abuot the Guti, I was on the
wrong track in the timelne, Im talking about a pre history that goes back let
say 34,000 years.
Thanks it was interesting reading about the Guti.
Maybe the Guti were tha last and the distinct race to come out of the area of
the Kopet Dagh and surrounding areas but in the timeline of the Guti?
Moon worship preceded sun worship. Veneration of the moon was at
its height during the hunting era, while sun worship became the
chief religious ceremony of the subsequent agricultural ages.
Solar worship first took extensive root in India, and there it
persisted the longest. In Persia sun veneration gave rise to the
later Mithraic cult.
Among many peoples the sun was regarded as the ancestor of
their kings.
The Chaldeans put the sun in the center of "the seven
circles of the universe." Later civilizations honored the sun
by giving its name to the first day of the week.
I thought that was an interesting link to the seven concentric
circles found all over the world and explains the ancient stones of
circles note to mention the Babylonian stones.
Here is a link to the Schools of the Seven Circles
The training of Technical Advisers, begun in the Melchizedek
colleges of the local universes, continues to the courts of the
Ancients of Days. From this superuniverse training they proceed to
the "schools of the seven circles" located on the pilot
worlds of the Havona circuits. And from the pilot worlds they are
received into the "college of the ethics of law and the
technique of Supremacy," the Paradise training school
for the perfecting of Technical Advisers.
All very interesting the relevance of the Seven Circles on the many
levels.
a search on Sevens in the UB and a desription of Paradise
Each of the seven sectors of Paradise is subdivided into
residential units suitable for the lodgment headquarters of one
billion glorified individual working groups. One thousand of these
units constitute a division. One hundred thousand divisions equal
one congregation. Ten million congregations constitute an
assembly. One billion assemblies make one grand unit. And this
ascending series continues through the second grand unit, the
third, and so on to the seventh grand unit. And ] seven
of the grand units [/Bmake up the master units, and seven of the
master units constitute a superior unit; and thus by sevens the
ascending series expands through the superior, supersuperior,
celestial, supercelestial, to the supreme units. But even this
does not utilize all the space available. This staggering number
of residential designations on Paradise, a number beyond your
concept, occupies considerably less than one per cent of the
assigned [b] area of the Holy Land. There is still plenty of
room for those who are on their way inward, even for those who
shall not start the Paradise climb until the times of the eternal
future.
and here is the manifestion of Sevens reoccuring in the physical
of our reality today, The Sevenfold manifestation.
This sevenfold persistence of creative constitution is
exhibited in the chemical domains as a recurrence of similar
physical and chemical properties in segregated periods of seven
when the basic elements are arranged in the order of their atomic
weights.
When the Urantia chemical elements are thus arranged in a row, any
given quality or property tends to recur by sevens. This periodic
change by sevens recurs diminishingly and with variations
throughout the entire chemical table, being most markedly
observable in the earlier or lighter atomic groupings. Starting
from any one element, after noting some one property, such a
quality will change for six consecutive elements, but on reaching
the eighth, it tends to reappear, that is, the eighth chemically
active element resembles the first, the ninth the second, and so
on. Such a fact of the physical world unmistakably points to
the sevenfold constitution of ancestral energy and is
indicative of the fundamental reality of the sevenfold
diversity of the creations of time and space. Man should also
note that there are seven colors in the natural spectrum.
You know could work out the size of Paradise by the size of Isreal,
the Holy Land and then from there you could work out the size of the
universe? Population lation of Paradise not even 1%, lets .05%. Now
multiply that by the area of Isreal?
Real food for thought, the whole Sevenfold constitution on all
levels of reality, physical and spiritual.
Although the culture and religion of Egypt were chiefly derived
from Andite Mesopotamia and largely transmitted to subsequent
civilizations through the Hebrews and Greeks, much, very
much, of the social and ethical idealism of the Egyptians arose in
the valley of the Nile as a purely evolutionary development.
Notwithstanding the importation of much truth and culture of
Andite origin, there evolved in Egypt more of moral culture as
a purely human development than appeared by similar natural
techniques in any other circumscribed area prior to the
bestowal of Michael.
[list]
[*][b] But if the end times are indeed near, why would there be any point in
working toward fostering peace?[/b]
Right now the [b] Church of Jesus Christ[/b] is busy in the spiritual vein of
trying to win people to Christ. We’re concerned about the salvation of
individual souls. [b] This whole thing has heightened the spirit of
evangelism.[/b] Wars have always done that. But never have we had a war that is
so specifically following the pattern of the scripture.
and this
[b] So the Revelation should not be interpreted, for example, as a polemic
against Rome?[/b]
That’s what they say. We believe that [b] the Bible should be understood
literally whenever possible. [/b] The next [b] big event [/b]is the [b] second
coming of Christ.[/b] That’s preceded by [b] a number of signs.[/b] And some of
those [b] signs [/b]could be [b] stage-setting right now.[/b] They’re not going
to come out of nowhere. For example, the Bible predicts when the antichrist
comes and sits at his kingdom after [b] the Rapture,[/b] he’s going to have one
world economy and one world government and one world religion. We’re already
moving rapidly in the direction of those very things.
[/list]
Sounds like there is an awareness of similar vein to what we've been discussing.
There appears to be an activation going on and man is beginning to perceive. He
mentioned signs, well I think we've been discovering is signs enough.
Something stirring in the heavens? and in the light of the timeline of the signs
I think we are in the moment. Surely in relation to the threads of truth!
We must be getting close to something, just in the short time being here I've
noticed a difference in the general conversation, like there an up-tempo in
awareness and discovery in a personal way.
I think the test period is coming close to the finish. Ah see what happens, but
I feel things and realities are becoming more concentrated and intense.
People are proclaiming and there seems to be activation, that's good. Least the
body of Christ is gearing up and the message is not exclusive. This is there
whole purpose in this sense, for the end times and the message that Jesus
provided and demonstrated as he is demonstrating now through expanded
consciousness in exploration and discovery.
Well I hope in this time what we've been discovering has helped in to a deeper
understanding of the unfolding. Still walking in faith.
Gee! even Newsweek are prepared to run a story like this which mirrors, in
essence what we have been discussing. It shows there that there are people out
there who are concerned about destiny and willing to support the print of it.
Lets see what's around the corner, see what unfolds in this steady stream of
truth discovery.
You know the big sign in Cyprus, representative of the large truth could be the
life raft, people might start looking at it or at the truth behind it for the
answer which includes major Governments. Deep down in there soul there might be
those who may see this as a key, which it is and may let it happen, the
unfolding perhaps!
I'm thinking this is a walk between God and man . In that walk, man can find it
hard in his faith with what he sees. Because he is sincere, God opens the doors
for him to unlock the steady stream of truth in reality in the timeline.
I mean to say, what are we talking, no odds for that, one would have to have
real faith to see this regardless. That's the test of man in his persistence
which is rewarded with seeing realties that unlocks truth and change.
I'm sure there is real potency in this knowledge and understanding and that's
why its is imperative for man to be honest, sincere and truthful who has to
share the discoveries. So there is no holding back for gain. I'm sure this
allows God to act and to operate in the realities of time and space with man
more fully in real unison and conjunction with man, a unification of time/space.
In that faith, I feel the mountain can move and things can change.
regards
sevens
Good find Riven,
I liked the following parts, speaks of an island, springs-more than
one, nice climate like a garden on an island with springs and more.
quote:
Yet these abodes to
Elis I prefer,
No clime to me so sweet, no place so dear.
These springs I Arethusa now possess,
And this my seat, o gracious Goddess, bless:
This island why I love, and why I crost
Such spacious seas to reach Ortygia's coast,
also this part.
Is that Sevens in association with a flood and a hypothesis.
Springs, (Springs on the Acropolis Hill)
Island (Cyprus in my view, submerged island)
Seat (The Acropolis Hill, the location)
Its all related.
quote:
Their routed godheads
to the sev'n-mouth'd flood;
Forc'd every God, his fury to escape.
seven mouthed flood,
(related to the message, message from the ancients, Sevenfold,
seven, the message.)
Flood (part of the message, The Hypothesis)
Fury (judgement, revealed)
Escape (Everyone ran for cover)
this part i liked to
quote:
At this confession
Atlas ghastly star'd,
Mindful of what an oracle declar'd, That the dark womb of Time conceal'd a day,
Which should, disclos'd, the bloomy gold betray:
All should at once be ravish'd from his eyes,
And Jove's own progeny enjoy the prize.
For this, the fruit he loftily immur'd,
Atlas(God)
Oracle (message of the day)
Dark womb of time (the Location, hidden place)
Concealed (hidden)
Disclosed (revealed)
Ravished at once (The conviction, the message comes to light)
Gold betray,(Material things mean nothing)
Own progeny,(Those of faith)
Prize, (prize of faith)
Fruit, (Tree of life and what represents)
quote:
Nor falsly dare thy
acts and race to boast.
In vain the heroe for one night entreats,
Is this the another sign
of the times, the timeline. I believe its related to those who
seek for terror who claim hero ship through false ideas connected
to death. Note how this ends suddenly in one night. Are we getting
close?
Then you have the Daniel 2 prophecy about the stone cut out of the
mountain and that mountain that filled the whole earth.
Gone mad, totally. You could only hope this is only the last playing itself out
with irrational talk. Notice how bizarre its all seeming, like rhetoric gone
crazy with out discovery.
Its a worry but I have faith that it will come good. I hope so!
Enforcement, assertion of personal will over others, no respect for the present
or the past.
All characteristics of what and whom. Makes you think. What drives him,
prophecy?? I suppose that's why its a time for learning and researching for
everyone in what's happening and the truth behind it all. Look at the
alternative! I'm sure there is no help from Heaven for those who discover terror
and use it to manipulate mankind into fear. Like what we saw in Afghanistan some
years ago. Is that the alternative!
I know there is much talk of religion and end times but really it is a great
possibility when you look at the message today. I'm deeply sure that message we
are discovering today, through discovery reflects the right message of the times
and the universe, a construct welded together with love for one another and in
that we learn and understand each other. I'm sure there will be no room for
terrors in the new world.
Anyway I feel its more of a battle of truth and this is the manifestation. I
just pray there is no major catastrophe??
Its good what we know, least we can clearly identify truth. I feel the problem
and the solution comes from religion itself. Its the true source problem that is
leading to this crazy spiritual condition we have here on earth.
But if the end times
are indeed near, why would there be any point in working toward
fostering peace?
Right now the Church of Jesus Christ is busy in the
spiritual vein of trying to win people to Christ. We’re concerned
about the salvation of individual souls. This whole thing has
heightened the spirit of evangelism. Wars have always done
that. But never have we had a war that is so specifically
following the pattern of the scripture.
and this
So the Revelation should not be interpreted, for example, as a
polemic against Rome?
That’s what they say. We believe that the Bible should be
understood literally whenever possible. The next big event
is the second coming of Christ. That’s preceded by a
number of signs. And some of those signs could be
stage-setting right now. They’re not going to come out of
nowhere. For example, the Bible predicts when the antichrist comes
and sits at his kingdom after the Rapture, he’s going to
have one world economy and one world government and one world
religion. We’re already moving rapidly in the direction of those
very things.
Sounds like there is an awareness of similar vein to what we've been
discussing. There appears to be an activation going on and man is
beginning to perceive. He mentioned signs, well I think we've been
discovering is signs enough.
Something stirring in the heavens? and in the light of the timeline
of the signs I think we are in the moment. Surely in relation to the
threads of truth!
We must be getting close to something, just in the short time being
here I've noticed a difference in the general conversation, like
there an up-tempo in awareness and discovery in a personal way.
I think the test period is coming close to the finish. Ah see what
happens, but I feel things and realities are becoming more
concentrated and intense.
People are proclaiming and there seems to be activation, that's
good. Least the body of Christ is gearing up and the message is not
exclusive. This is there whole purpose in this sense, for the end
times and the message that Jesus provided and demonstrated as he is
demonstrating now through expanded consciousness in exploration and
discovery.
Well I hope in this time what we've been discovering has helped in
to a deeper understanding of the unfolding. Still walking in faith.
Gee! even Newsweek are prepared to run a story like this which
mirrors, in essence what we have been discussing. It shows there are
people out there who are concerned about destiny and willing to
support the print of it.
Lets see what's around the corner, see what unfolds in this steady
stream of truth discovery.
You know the big sign in Cyprus, representative of the large truth
could be the life raft, people might start looking at it or at the
truth behind it for the answer which includes major Governments.
Deep down in there soul there might be those who may see this as a
key, which it is and may let it happen, the unfolding perhaps!
I'm thinking this is a walk between God and man . In that walk, man
finds it hard in his faith with what he sees but because he is
sincere, God opens the doors for him to unlock the steady stream of
truth, in reality, in the timeline.
I mean to say, what are we talking about, no odds for that, one
would have to have real faith to see this regardless. That's the
test of man in his persistence which is rewarded with seeing
realties that unlocks truth and change.
I'm sure there is real potency in this knowledge and understanding
and that's why its is imperative for man to be honest, sincere and
truthful who has to share the discoveries with man. So there is no
holding back for whatever motive. I'm sure this allows God to act
and to operate in the realities of time and space with man more
fully in real unison and conjunction with man, a unification of
time/space. In that faith, I feel the mountain can move and things
can change.
But with a message that provides hope and happiness in truth not all
this other rubbish. gotta be kidding.
regards
sevens
Pretty cool, all reveals the
current reality.
quote:
with due rite,
the god who moves those lips, and reveal my beloved
Delphi and the heavens themselves, and unlock the
oracles of that sublime mind. I will speak of mighty
matters, not fathomed by earlier greatness, things long hidden.
I delight in journeying among the distant stars: I delight
in leaving earth and its dull spaces, to ride the clouds; to stand
on the shoulders of mighty Atlas,
due rite ( the
right of God) moves lip (shares the truth) reveals (reveals the secrets) Delphi (Reveals the temple, the submerged temple.( Heavens themselves (revealing all the truth of the past and
today.) Oracles (unlocking the great mystery pf mystery, mind of
God) Mighty matters (matters of truth)
Pretty cool, all reveals the current reality. not fathomed (not known, kept but when revealed expands
truth and the message not understood nor received.) earlier times (ancient times before known history) long hidden (long hidden from the past) delight (its an excellent journey of discovering truth) distant stars (finding the truth of the stars and its
message for today.)
rapture leaving the earth (sounds like rapture, the event before
the event.)
Sounds like another set of strong parallels to what is happening
today with great accuracy and its related around
Atlantis/Atlas/God
How fascinating was that article. Its interesting how
the conversation about the End Times seems to be more
prevalent. Many people seem to be talking about it,
especially in the press, quite surprising.
Maybe there is a quickening going on, note how there are
changes happening in our solar system, according to the
article. It all seems to be something going within the
scenes and does parallel our conversation quite directly
especially in relation to our own research.
Time will tell on this one, maybe the planet is about to
enter another level of time/space but towards the
Absonite?? like a blend of time space mixed in with
Absonite/Absolute paradigms. But eternal levels will
outstrip time/space through its evolution. If the Solar
system is showing changes then the Paradise Trinity must
be close or even here. They effect everything physical
which does alter when there presence is felt. Just by
there presence.
All Puissant energy does come forth from Paradise and
does explain the many changes that are occurring on many
levels of existence, not just this level of existence,
but lock, stock and barrel...all existences.
Anyway food for thought. Personally, I would see all
these observations as parts of the major planetary
reality playing itself out, I wouldn't be surprised that
the scenario of End Times is building its own momentum
to the moment and is approaching fast. I'm starting to
think that all our personal discoveries are happening
allot quicker, more condensed and with fuller meaning.
Its all starting to fall in place and makes sense, its
quite logical considering the info attached to this
scenario, not to mention the timeline and its markers
that we know off.
I agree with you on this. The only thing we know is that we are
discussing a period where sea levels were very much lower than today,
that land along the coasts of almost all continents and island groups
was habitable but is now underwater, and that investigation has proved
early humans lived in many of these marginal lands. We have no proof of
great civilizations from that period and would be premature in naming
them if they did exist - except for Atlantis.
General knowledge at the time of Plato did not include the rise of sea
levels around the world nor the specific date when this rise occurred.
What is compelling is that Plato's written accounts match the date the
Celtic Shelf was inundated. The size of the plain described by Plato
matches the size of the plain on the Celtic Shelf. The location of
Atlantis as facing the district of Gades matches the location of the
Celtic Shelf, which is north of Gades.
The people who live along the edges of the Celtic Shelf have lived there
since before it sunk. Folklore handed down through the generations
speaks of a "land under the waves" and a people who were "gods and not
gods". We know these are the descendants of those people because we have
DNA evidence to prove it. We know they were "advanced" for their time
because we have the evidence in their cave art and their toolkits to
prove it.
We are beginning to suspect that they migrated north and south, that
some of them may have been responsible for the first civilizations in
the Middle East, including the rise of the "Indo-Europeans", but we have
yet to discover their origins and why they were so advanced for their
time. Until we know the answers to those questions, until we know what
lies beneath the waves, we cannot be certain - but generally, if it
waddles like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
Don't take me wrong. I agree
that at a time of lower ocean levels and probably at the time of
Atlantis, there very well could have been civilizations now sunken and
forgotten. But these civilizations were not Lemuria or Mu any more than
Gotham is New York City. When these civilizations are found they will
have their own names and histories. Sevens: Yes Eden existed. The first
books of the Bible were written long after the fact. I consider them
parables; true in context but not very explicit. When Adam and Eve were
driven from the garden, God placed an angel with a flaming sword at the
entrance of the garden to prevent Adams return to it. The Bible says
nothing about it being submerged in water though I suppose it was,
later, during the flood. Could the flaming sword have been a blazing
asteroid impact?
It could shed light on the Deluge of the Eastern Med.
also
Here is a small extract out the book of Adam and Eve that in my mind
speak of the Flood of Eden and the destruction of an evil empire. I
believe this extract is a direct reference to the location and Atlantis,
4000 years after Adam and Eve.
In the following, I feel is
the Atlantis/Urantia/1st Adam and Eve book connection after the
expulsion of Adam from 1st Eden (Cyprus) and information of the people
who inhabited the garden after the Adamic expulsion but before the
deluge which is also mentioned.
Note: The First garden of Eden (Cyprus) is to the west of the 2nd
Garden of Eden (Iraq, East) Adam and Eve are in the second garden.
(East of the original garden)
extract
53:6-7 For in this western border, (the location, due west) O Adam,
there will go from you a descendant, that shall replenish it; and that
will defile themselves with their sins, and with their yielding to the
commands of Satan, and by following his works. (The Atlanteans)
7 Therefore will I bring over them the waters (job 28 & 1enoch ) of
a flood, and overwhelm them all. (The Deluge of the Eastern Med)
But I will deliver what is left of the righteous among them; and I
will bring them to a distant land, and the land in which you live
now shall remain desolate and without one inhabitant in it.
(Now we are talking about a race of people that inhabited the Garden
in the West and perpetuated their ideals and then a flood comes and
overwhelms them, sounds similar to the Atlantis account. Further in
the account there is Jesus and his promise bringing Adams descendants
(faith believers) back to the garden like in today's reality.
When you think about it further here is what I see.
this western border (Assuming this is written in the 2nd
Garden, to the East. The Western border could very mean the Eastern
Mediterranean shoreline. In addition we know that the location of
Cyprus is submerged of the Eastern Med.) Adam Reference to Adam, the Beginning of this Paradigm.
Remembering the Beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.
Selah a descendant Descendant from Adam or related will go back into
the Garden or perhaps partake of the questionable practices of the
culture in the garden. I wonder if this the progeny of Cain or related
to him?? that shall replenish it; This person builds an Empire where its
base is Atlantis. The Cyprus location. defile themselves Looks like this culture are perverse in there
ways. That's mentioned in Enoch for today. their sins Willingly sinning yielding to the commands of Satan Submission to the will of
Satan and his ways. by following his works By following his example, his manifesto. bring over them "Bring over them" sounds like a Tsunami. A
match to the Cyprus Hypothesis.
will bring over them a flood, like the filling of the Med Basin. Its a
direct reference to The Deluge of the Eastern Med. of a flood, and overwhelm them all In this section After the
Tsunami and the following flood overwhelm the area assumes that flood
never receded and sounds consistent to the Cyprus case.
But I will deliver what
is left of the righteous among them;
I will deliver God will warn and save through revealment. what is left Before the flood God will warn and save the people
who were perceptive and listened to the beforehand message of the
event. righteous among them; Those who hear the warning are the
righteous, they perceive the message and believe and activate. will bring them to a distant land, The righteous will evacuated
and God himself will save his people before the flood. land in which you live now Whilst this and the following maybe
about Earth changes it also Kind of feels like a message for today for
us now, what we read is a direct message for us through the demise of
this ancient culture Atlantis that went down in a flood. Its like
today with message of the test and we see today and the rediscovery of
Eden/Atlantis. What we see today and read in the past is a duality and
a message, its a time/space unification of the past and the present
and the future. anyway! shall remain desolate After the earth changes the land we live
in will not be recognizable. without one inhabitant in it. No one left all gone, I suppose
because of the earth changes.
This to me this fits in perfectly with the timeline as presented in the
scripts, all of them. Not just Bible.
Looks like this saving business has happened many times before. I
suppose this time is no different with respect to mans belief and
acceptance.
Just searching it further, if you look at the Book of Noah in this
rendition you can read a clear description of the deluge.
The following has my thoughts in between.
here is a description
of the Mediterranean deluge
Enoch 67.4 And they will shut up those Angels, who showed
iniquity, in that burning valley, (Eden Valley) which my
great-grandfather Enoch had shown to me previously, in the
west, (assuming Noah is in Mesopotamia to the east of the 1st
Eden location) near the mountains of gold and silver and iron and
soft metal and tin. (the location)
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which
there was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the
waters. (tsunami effect, A Tsunami)
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which
disturbed the waters in that place, a smell of sulphur
(volcanic) was produced, and it was associated with those
waters. (Water from the Atlantic, from the west) And that
valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st Eden), who led men
astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out
rivers of fire (personal conviction) where those Angels will
be punished, who led astray those on the dry ground.
Sounds like Judgement attached to the "same place"
(The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that the area that is
now submerged, destroyed by a Tsunami.) Images of 1st Eden
When you combine both scripts of Adam and Eve and Noah you have the
a complete description of who, when and where of the deluge that
occurred in the Eastern Med. Also it appears to be a duality of
todays message of the Tsunami of the times with respect to this
planet. No different in todays times.
Man that is so good, I really glad your having a great time exploring and
discovering new things. No thing nicer than being on the truth path and
particularly when you find things that compliments your search.
Its like those pictures that I put together from the creek over here, the way
they turned out was incredible. Its amazing that this very creek is where the
aboriginals used to hangout during the summer for thousands of years. It was a
real spiritual place for them.
It reminds me of a few verses in the Jesus papers of the Essenes.
Its just like this
Through the light of the mind, Through the light of nature,
And through the study of the Holy Word,
It nice to actually experience this oneness in nature and through revealment.
All the best prax with your search and discoveries.
regards
sevens
Hey ideopraxist,
How is it going, Glad you having a great time finding and exploring,
There is nothing nicer than finding a picture that fits, its all
very intriguing and brings us all closer to God as he impresses us
with his handy work. As we discover this we find him more. What an
inspiration, its like your secret place, whilst there is turmoil
about, yet you are at peace with your discoveries because you know
where it leads as revealed along the journey.
As for me I was going over some old posts looking into the pillars
of Heracles or Hercules and I stumbled across this in the Timeaus
and Critias
A description of the
Land of Atlantis and the inland sea.
How shall I establish my words? and what part of it can be truly
called a remnant of the land that then was? The whole
country is only a long promontory extending far into the sea
away from the rest of the continent, while the surrounding
basin of the sea is everywhere deep in the neighbourhood of
the shore.
Whilst one may think straightway ..oh he meant Gilbraltor. I see it
differently.
But by reading the above and placing yourself at the location I find
it describes the original inland sea that surrounded the Island
connected by a peninsula within a basin, exactly what you see at the
location.
Here is a link to a 3d images of the inland and the peninsula
surrounded by an Inland basin of sea, that was deep.
3d Images of the island and the sea.
I find when you combine this out of the Book of Adam and Eve.
A description of the
culture that inhabited Atlantis after the expulsion of Adam and
Eve and before the deluge.
extract
53:6-7 For in this western border, (the location, due west) O
Adam, [b] there will go from you a descendant, that shall
replenish it; and that will defile themselves with their sins, and
with their yielding to the commands of Satan, and by following his
works. (The Atlanteans)
7 Therefore will I bring over them the waters (job 28 & 1enoch
) of a flood, and overwhelm them all. (The Deluge of the
Eastern Med)
But I will deliver what is left of the righteous among them;
and I will bring them to a distant land, and the land in which
you live now shall remain desolate and without one inhabitant in
it.
(Now we are talking about a race of people that inhabited the
Garden in the West and perpetuated their ideals and then a flood
comes and overwhelms them, sounds similar to the Atlantis account.
Further in the account there is Jesus and his promise bringing
Adams descendants (faith believers) back to the garden like in
today's reality.
When you think about it further here is what I see.
this western border (Assuming this is written in the 2nd
Garden, to the East. The Western border could very well mean the
Eastern Mediterranean shoreline. In addition we know that the
location of Cyprus is submerged of the Eastern Med.) Adam Reference to Adam, the Beginning of this Paradigm.
Remembering the Beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.
Selah a descendant Descendant from Adam or related will go back
into the Garden or perhaps partake of the questionable practices
of the culture in the garden. I wonder if this the progeny of Cain
or related to him?? that shall replenish it; This person builds an Empire where
its base is Atlantis. The Cyprus location. defile themselves Looks like this culture are perverse in
there ways. That's mentioned in Enoch for today. their sins Willingly sinning yielding to the commands of Satan Submission to the will of
Satan and his ways. by following his works By following his example, his
manifesto. bring over them "Bring over them" sounds like a Tsunami. A
match to the Cyprus Hypothesis.
will bring over them a flood, like the filling of the Med Basin.
Its a direct reference to The Deluge of the Eastern Med. of a flood, and overwhelm them all In this section After
the Tsunami and the following flood overwhelm the area assumes
that flood never receded and sounds consistent to the Cyprus case.
Then combine it the rendition of the Deluge found in 2nd Enoch here
what you get
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which
there was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the
waters. (tsunami effect, A Tsunami)
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which
disturbed the waters in that place, a smell of sulphur
(volcanic) was produced, and it was associated with those
waters. (Water from the Atlantic, from the west) And that
valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st Eden), who led men
astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out
rivers of fire (personal conviction) where those Angels will
be punished, who led astray those on the dry ground.
67.5 And I saw that valley, (The valley of Eden) in which there
was a great disturbance, and a heaving of the waters. (tsunami
effect, A Tsunami)
67.6 And when all this happened, from the fiery molten metal,
(Volcanic) and the disturbance, (earthquake) which disturbed the
waters in that place, a smell of sulphur (volcanic) was produced,
and it was associated with those waters. (Water from the Atlantic,
from the west) And that valley (valley of Eden) of the Angels (1st
Eden), who led men astray, burns under the ground. (submerged)
67.7 And through the valleys of that same area, flow out rivers of
fire (personal conviction) where those Angels will be punished,
who led astray those on the dry ground.
Sounds like Judgement attached to the "same place"
(The Valley was once on dry ground inferring that the area that is
now submerged, destroyed by a Tsunami.) Images of 1st Eden
Even if you look at extracts out of the Book of Jubilees you see a
clear rendition of the Flood of Eden and its purpose as a seal for a
future event.
Jubilees 8:13 "And for
Ham came out as the second portion, beyond the Gejon (Nile),
toward the south, to the right of the garden, and it
proceeds to all the fire mountains, and goes toward the west
to the sea of Atil and goes west until it
reaches the sea of Mauk the one of which everything descends
that is destroyed
In the above we see the general description of the 2 inland seas
that were within the Med. In addition the Sea of Mauk is to the
West "the one of which everything descends" we see that the Deluge
emanated from the West as the flood came from the 2nd Sea from the
west to flood the sea of Atil (Atlantis) the Sea of the Gods to
the East.
The Pillars of Gilbraltor never existed 34,000 years ago.
Now in verse 23 we see the purpose of the place, the location.
testified against
(them) all. And he was taken from amongst the children of men,
and we conducted him into the Garden of Eden in majesty and
honour, and behold there he writes down the condemnation.24
and judgment of the world, and all the wickedness of the
children of men. And on account of it (God) brought the
waters of the flood upon all the land of Eden; for
there he was set as a sign and that he should testify
against all the children of men, that he should recount all
the 25 deeds of the generations until the day of
condemnation. And he burnt the incense of the sanctuary,
note: Sea of Atil and Eden is that a subtle association of Atil/Eden
or Atlantis/Eden??
We see in the above that submerged Eden/Atlantis is set as a
sign or seal for a future event. Its is related to the flood and
the judgment of mankind. The verse directly tells you about the
flood, the seal and the judgement or lets say change. It has all
the characters and physical markers and is endorsed by the other
scripts including Plato.
I mean to say that last piece in Jubilees really tells the whole
story and associates itself to Eden and Judgement directly. Its
a direct parallel and is inline with our discussions.
There is no where in the world where this conjunction is
happening. No where! Except of Cyprus.
I also see the same duality in the above Jubilees as with the
excerpt out of Adam and Eve. Its about the same place, the same
inhabitants and the purpose for today. But in today's timeline
the flood is a spiritual flood first followed by a planetary
physical change.
I think when all the information is combined it tells and
compliments the Atlantis story as a local Eastern Mediterranean
event rather than in the Atlantis beyond the later Pillars of
Heracles.
Also Brig here is a direct association of Eden and the flood and its
purpose through the scriptures.
Hi Since no one replies to
this thread I suppose the next information will be equally
irrelevant for most but anyway, here goes.
In the following are the dates of the Test period as inspired by the
40 days of Jesus in the wilderness and 40 years before the
Israelites came into the promised land and excerpts in Ezra as later
found (after the proclamation) of a record, written in 40 days with
a later record to be released at another time all beforehand of an
event. I thought a 40 day test was fitting but it was spontaneous
rather than calculated, on the spur as realised....kind of thing. In
the latter note the 7 parallel to significant dates and note that
there were 3 conjunction in the birth date of Jesus. Like a little
key in our timeline.
The proclamation.
4thJuly 2006
Test completion 14th August 2006
I just realised it was the 4th July independence day that I
proclaimed without realising it. Also the test completion date falls
on the Seven days before the Urantia Book birth date of Jesus.
August 21, 7 B.C Quite a significant date.
lets look at this again
The proclamation.
4thJuly 2006 1st week.
Test completion 14th August 2006, 6th week.
Jesus Birth date August 21, 7 B.C. 7th week.
all subject to slight variation but in the general area.
my hearts racing, that is a pattern of sevens 7s that is connected
in time/space in a pattern of proclamation and a seven pattern
"The Test of man faith" The test completion in complete, On his
birthday, the birth of Christ in 7th year BC in a conjunction
year, 3 of them of Jupiter and Saturn according JPL.
Here is possibly another clue.
in in the following Enoch extract you have this
Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall
arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected
from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them
shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation,
This could mean in the Seventh week of the
new Millennium of Jesus' birthdate August 21st 07 BC
The Seventh week is 1st - 8th is the Seventh week.
Now in relation to the test proclaimed on the 4th
july(Independence day!!) to the end of the test is around 14th
August,(the 6th week), Then after which we are in the seventh week
which I calculate 21st August(jesus birthdaye UB)
after the 21st August we are in the Seventh week and now look at
what Enoch says about the Seventh week during its completion.
Afterwards, in the seventh week, the week after Jesus' birth date,
in that week, in the period on 21st-28th August 7 days. That would
be a seven weeks completion since proclamation of the Test of mans
faith and embraces the patterns of Sevens perfectly.
So if I break it down further
Here is another view
4th July, test
start, 1st week
July 31st-6th August, 4th week
7th-14th August, 5th week 14th (Test completion, 40 days)
14th - 21st August, 6th week 21st-28th August, 7th week (Jesus birth date 21st August)
And what may occur maybe a great realisation??
Also there are other sevens phenomena in relation to other
birthdates within my own family equally 7 days apart in the 5th
month. Its like when I realised this on the cusp of the 5th week.
1, 7, 14(me) three 7s, personal parallel. We've often wandered
that. confirmation, maybe, coincidence...its interesting, another
little mystery. All these subtle things.
And again note in the seventh week in Enoch.
In the Seventh
week, During its completion,
righteous shall be selected from the plant of everlasting
righteousness;
This is not conscious plan, its on the run, the test date 4th July
was never planned it just happened but interestingly the beginning
of the seven week falls close to Jesus' birthday. amazing, how
significant!
Im sure this is the almighty pattern of Paradise in experiential
experience of the unfoldment of this.
Its all interesting, I hope you understand all this. To me it makes
all sense and is consistent with the pattern and looking at it
further its a combination of an on the spur proclamation upon
realisation of the test period as prophesied before the event, and
the the Seventh week prophesied in Enoch which falls on Jesus'
birthday in the Seventh week of the test. Its parallel to the Enoch
prophecy, specific for this time/date/timeline in our discussion. It
also marries the seven factor, perfect and in harmonisation with
this time/space unification.
Its like a birthday present and would be fitting day for an event.
That last Piece in Jubliees, in the above is just a massive prophecy on all
dimensions, Im realising how big it really is, in context to where we are at,
right now.
That's a SUPER JAG. 400 ton+
For me that is big and the duality in time/space is a duality in meaning and
events regardless of time space. Even though it reflects in the past it has a
duality in discovering it today in the record which has meaning for the destiny
of the future...now.
When was this book written? , the Book of Jubilees? How accurate is that in
theme and our discussions, the author might as well join this thread.
Importantly note: notice how this all is proclaimed beforehand, until the day.
Beforehand. I mean we are talking about the Land of the Gods aren't we!! They
are eternal, supernal and sublime. What would one expect when you discover the
land of the Gods and combine all there handy work in all the texts and then
piece all the evidence together. To find this huge message and the current
timeline.
Surely this is a sign, isn't it!! Maybe we should take note of, seems to have
all the factors combined. I would think there would be no other sign, to be
honest. Just how it combines all knowledge and unifies it to a point in
time/space of past, present and future in one reality. Wouldn't that be the
pattern of Paradise when you think about it, a unifying event an conjunction of
time/space and the Absolute/Absonite.
It must be a revelation of the mystery or the key that allows a higher level of
knowledge to become.
I reckon personally that the 7th Mystery or the Mystery of Mysteries is decoded,
in essence. The mystery of the Seven Stars is done! I'm bold enough to say that.
I think if someone looks into all the research who has more resources could find
allot more. But its a path, a small path in the sea of truth and peace. To me it
feels like a matter of awaiting the trumpet of the Seventh Angel and the
Paradise representatives and it will become in a world revelation.
Ahh! see what happens! But its a good time to be of good tidings and sharing.
Now!! would be a great time to be warm. Its not just me saying this but many
people now are spreading and proclaiming this message of Good tidings and
goodwill amongst your fellow brother.
If feel this is the message, in essence of this place.
Thanks Elmer, I really
appreciate your words of encouragement. I hope its the truth and nothing but
with what I'm finding and publishing. I hope it helps mankind in this journey.
However just by judging things, even with the best and the most truthful
presentation, it wouldn't make much difference really, you might as well get it
over and done with. In the next 16 days or so should be interesting. Even coming
down to around the seventh week date around the 21st August following a seven
pattern. I did a study on it in the Moses prophecy thread. There are multiple
sevens happening here not just what I published. UB birth date of Jesus, 21st
August 7BC. Anyway that's what it says. Now everything in the test as I'm
realizing is following this sevens thing.
Its a time/space of phenomena of activation and response.
I hope you understand what I'm saying or can relate to it. But then again its
good that all is published so you can test it for yourself. That's is good and
that I would want.
Elmer I hope you are finding things to.
Hey what do you think of the of the date of proclamation of the test. 4th July
Independence Day! I didn't realize that until today, 4th July wow realizing it
today, that was not a conscious plan then, all inspired in the moment! How
fitting! All in the seven pattern, a good milestone in history to begin from.
Also when you mentioned being whisked away, I've been thinking about that. Just
today! I was thinking about it. I thought it would be like going on a long
holiday for 3 months (heaven time) totally refreshed and imbibed, and return in
the 2 earth days or something. I actually thought that, doing the job and then
suddenly I'm gone and others. Lets say it really happens as spoken!! Wouldn't
that be interesting!
And then to expand further.
What if that occurred where there is a mass exodus as prophesied and the
remaining people suddenly realized that we were speaking the truth and then
began this almighty search for the truth and the lost individuals, looking high
and low in there search which led them straight back here. A seven circle. he!
Wouldn't that be even more bizarre and all in line with prophecy!! I ask?
Anyway see what happens eh! If there is a choice Elmer, I'm going.
All the best for you in your endeavors and great blessings.
regards
sevens
Thinking it further based on
the information above.
Lets suppose that what has been uncovered in the current timeline is
true and correct and it occurs.
Similar to Elmer, I believe a rapture could be in the making.
But lets see what happens, as you see this forum is full of
speculation and this another speculation based on research, but in
this case we a live situation, a true event brewing. One of which
needs real attention.
If this is correct, what I propose occurs in the 7th week. I feel a
rapture event could possibly happen as stipulated in revelation. I
feel that at the end of the first stage of this process will finish
with the rapture, when it says that the elect will be called up to
heaven. Two people are present and then suddenly one disappears??
Heaven knows that the current presentation of truth and its
parallels is not enough to get mans attention except for the faith
sons, they respond. So an event has to occur in order to get mans
attention.
I feel this would be reflected by the Father through a revelation
and a demonstration or an act, an event, an impression and to
endorse the current discovery by his own his faith and love.
So now we enter into stage 2 of the judgment process.
Now in stage stage 2 is the period after the disappearance and
before judgement. This is the burning period of mans soul where he
realises the truth about everything, en masse planetary. Upon
realisation many will repent and show glad tidings and show love
towards one another, others will reject completely, a trying time
for man. This stage maybe a very short one, like 3 days perhaps, not
long as God will not waste time in this 2 stage, it will be swift.
Also in Isaiah, he mentions that in this period a large
investigation will be formed to find out the truth of what happened
which leads them straight to this kind of information, the Testamony
of man. Upon discovery man will research this rapidly and get his
house into order, quick smart. Least he a second chance but only the
sincere will be considered.
At the conclusion of this second stage
I f feel, The Seventh Angel will call the end of the
Seventh/Sevenfold mystery at the beginning of judgment and the holy
race and the Elect will come down with the Angels and then the
process of final judgment begins, the 3rd and last stage.
The ones that reject the truth completely and who are out right evil
will run to the hills as the earth changes occur, the ones that are
saved will be evacuated. I think after 3 years they will return to a
New earth and heaven which means alterations on that level to.
It appears to be 2 fold stage of mercy, The opportunity offered in
these earlier message before the rapture of the elect stage one,
then stage 2 the decision time for mankind. Stage two will be the
last opportunity, I feel. However I'm not sure in stage 2 because in
the bible does speak about people who will ask for mercy and non is
given out? Could this be after judgment?
Anyway that's I what I say, its in faith and in truth. But as I
think about it and reflect on all our experiences I feel there is
definite Paradise pattern in the time timeline that appears to have
all the characteristics as described in all the texts.
What a journey of exploration and discovery. There is no mystery
like this one.
And what if???? what if? Lets see if it happens! Stupendous. What a
Testamony of mans faith in the Gods words, all of them. What a life
raft that will become and it will be true and happen.
Its could possibly be around the corner, around the 21st - 28th
August, around about that time.
All I say to everyone, be very vigilant, remember good works with a
sincere heart and forgiveness will all go along way. Its a test of
attitude for mans survival, a test of faith in God.
So Jesus birthday is on the 21st August 7BC, So in the true
timeline so 2006 less 7 years is 1999 in accordance to UB Jesus' birthday.
That's is 2000 years exactly. Its like the start of the new year with
festivities in the new world, based on this date. The day of change. Probably!
Next year in 2007 will be 2000 the new millennium, next year in the new world.
Egyptian Book of the Dead speaks about when God, Ammam comes back in the 21st
Pylon/century. In effect this year is the real end of the millennium based on
Jesus' birthday.
Just remember the saving attitude in all of this the Jesus message, simple
forgiveness for another and glad tidings with good will and acknowledgement of
the Father with desire but even half-heartedness is ok to.
food for thought.
all the best
sevens
Going on a hunch,
I did further calculations, but wil contumualy revised but s far.
Looking at the above calculations in accordance to the test
proclamation.
4th July test
proclamation,
48 day interim = 7 weeks = the 7th week is around 15/16th August
06 - 21st/22nd August 06, Enoch pattern in the seventh week = 7
week
21st August Jesus Birthday, the 49th day 7x7 pattern.
However we are one day out and that is taken into account by the
extra day in July being the 31st.
Here is the Enoch Seventh Connection
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse
generation shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its
deeds perverse. During its completion, the righteous shall be
selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to
them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting
every part of his whole creation,
Now if we break it down into actual dates and weeks from July 4th
remembering there an extra day in July being the 31st then we have
this which does equal the take into account and equals the the 49
day period
4 july -11th
12-18
19-25
26-1st aug
2-8
9-15
16-22th aug, the 7th week period as discussed in... Enoch in
the seventh week,...and ..During its completion, the righteous
shall be selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and
to them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation.
I hope this makes it a bit more accurate and does demonstrate the 7
x7 pattern in the time, date, weeks, proclamation, and in prophecy.
Now, if this is right and I'm not just getting carried away, in this
period 16-22 aug, we could possibly witness a rapturous event, the
beginning of a process of Judgement or some change or something. Its
quite possible. Just be alert.
Its all perplexing seeing a pattern like this and wandering if there
is something to it , or is it coincidence. We should find out soon.
regards
sevens
Jesus Birthdate from the
Urantia Book, the 49 day from the 4th July, The test - 21st August
7BC, Jesus birthdate 7x7=49 Seven pattern, in the seven week.
These wise men saw no
star to guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star
of Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born August 21
at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there occurred an
extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the
constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic
fact that similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and
December 5 of the same year.
The conjunction is proven by Jet propulsion Labratory.
Jesus Birthdate from the
Urantia Book, the 49 day from the 4th July, The test - 21st August
7BC, Jesus birthdate 7x7=49 Seven pattern, in the seven week.
These wise men saw no
star to guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star
of Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born August 21
at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there occurred an
extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the
constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic
fact that similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and
December 5 of the same year.
The 3 conjunctions has been proven by Jet propulsion Labratory.
7 Walk, my children,
in long-suffering, in meekness, honesty, in provocation, in grief,
in faith and in truth, in reliance on promises, in illness, in
abuse, in wounds, in temptation, in nakedness, in privation,
loving one another, till you go out from this age of ills,
that you become inheritors of endless time. (The new Epoch.)
8 Blessed are the just who shall escape the great judgment,
for they shall shine forth more than the sun sevenfold,
for in this world the seventh part is taken off from
all, light, darkness, food, enjoyment, sorrow, paradise, torture,
fire, frost, and other things; he put all down in writing,
that you might read and understand. (Could this mean
that the Sevenfold team is evacuated brfore the event?)
and further evidence from Enoch of change of its theme with some
of my own thoughts.
10And as the inflammation of their bodies shall be great, so
shall their spirits undergo a change for ever.
11For no word which is uttered before the Lord of spirits shall
be in vain.
(This research is no joke and is not a waste of time, This is also
repeated in the dead sea scrolls, the Bible and in the Egyptian
Book of the Dead, a 3 way parallel. Don't take this to lightly.)
12Judgment has come upon them, because they trusted in
their carnal revelry, and denied the Lord of spirits.
13 In those days shall the waters of that valley be changed;
for when the angels shall be judged, then shall the heat
of those springs of water experience an alteration.
14And when
the angels shall ascend, (Rapture, the first
stage) the water of the springs shall again undergo a change,
and be frozen. (The
knowledge changes) Then I heard
holy Michael answering and saying,(Jesus)
This judgment,
with which the angels shall be judged, shall bear testimony
against the kings, the princes, and those who possess the
earth. (The testimony being written all beforehand as
discovered in the simple search for Eden/Atlantis released, on the
go. Before the event. This is the testamony.)
15For these waters of judgment shall be for their
healing, and for the death of their bodies.
But they shall
not perceive and believe that the waters will be changed,
and become a fire, which shall blaze for ever.
Take big note of that!!!!!
(All the books and The Urantia Book and the Testamony.)
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line 27: John the Baptist was born March 25, 7 B.C., in accordance
with the promise that Gabriel made to Elizabeth in June of the previous year.
For five months Elizabeth kept secret Gabriel's visitation; and when she told
her husband, Zacharias, he was greatly troubled and fully believed her narrative
only after he had an unusual dream about six weeks before the birth of John.
Excepting the visit of Gabriel to Elizabeth and the dream of Zacharias, there
was nothing unusual or supernatural connected with the birth of John the
Baptist.
line 133: These wise men saw no star to guide them to Bethlehem.
The beautiful legend of the star of Bethlehem originated in this way:
Jesus
was born August 21 at noon, 7 B.C.
356 days in the year, difference between Jesus' birth and John the Baptist is
six months. 178 days, 6 months, in the seventh month begins change
At the noontide birth of Jesus the seraphim of Urantia,
assembled under their directors, did sing anthems of glory over
the Bethlehem manger, but these utterances of praise were not
heard by human ears. No shepherds nor any other mortal creatures
came to pay homage to the babe of Bethlehem until the day of
the arrival of certain priests from Ur, who were sent down from
Jerusalem by Zacharias.
These priests from Mesopotamia had been told sometime before
by a strange religious teacher of their country that he had a
dream in which he was informed that "the light of life"
was about to appear on earth as a babe and among the Jews.
And thither went these three teachers looking for this
"light of life." After many weeks of futile search in
Jerusalem, they were about to return to Ur when
Zacharias met them and disclosed his belief that Jesus was the
object of their quest and sent them on to Bethlehem, where
they found the babe and left their gifts with Mary, his earth
mother. The babe was almost three weeks old at the time of
their visit.
Interesting all beforehand as seen from Ur, !!Sevenfold country!!
I would say that was the Sevenfold connection directly connected
to Jesus in acknowledgement, Sevenfold in ultimacy being connected
to Ancients of Days and The Trinity of Paradise. From Ur eh!,
strange and religious!
Here is the beginninng of a religion inspired by a dream in Ur.
This founder of a new
religion was a virile and adventurous youth, who, on his first
pilgrimage to Ur in Mesopotamia, had learned of the traditions
of the Caligastia and the Lucifer rebellion--along with many other
traditions--all of which had made a strong appeal to his
religious nature. Accordingly, as the result of a dream
while in Ur, he settled upon a program of returning to his
northern home to undertake the remodeling of the religion of his
people. He had imbibed the Hebraic idea of a God of justice,
the Mosaic concept of divinity. The idea of a supreme God was
clear in his mind, and he set down all other gods as devils,
consigned them to the ranks of the demons of which he had heard in
Mesopotamia.
He had learned of the story of the Seven Master Spirits as the
tradition lingered in Ur, and, accordingly, he created a
galaxy of seven supreme gods with Ahura-Mazda at its head.
These subordinate gods he associated with the idealization of
Right Law, Good Thought, Noble Government, Holy Character, Health,
and Immortality.
From just a dream and a desire. You know in the ultimate sense
Chrsitianity bore out of this mans dream. I know 600BC there was an
accumulation of Arch Angels on this planet for 100 year period in
that time 5 or 6 world religions began as well as Plato.
then you have the Ur scenario again, it seems to be a very
spiritualy and influential place.
Terah and his whole
family were halfhearted converts to the Salem religion,
which had been preached in Chaldea; they learned of Melchizedek
through the preaching of Ovid, a Phoenician teacher who proclaimed
the Salem doctrines in Ur. They left Ur intending to go directly
through to Salem, but Nahor, Abraham's brother, not having
seen Melchizedek, was lukewarm and persuaded them to tarry at
Haran. And it was a long time after they arrived in Palestine
before they were willing to destroy all of the household gods they
had brought with them; they were slow to give up the many gods of
Mesopotamia for the one God of Salem.
the you have this perpetuation and commonality with Mesopotamia and
Egypt.
line 44: 5. Elohim.
In Kish and Ur there long persisted Sumerian-Chaldean groups who
taught a three-in-one God concept founded on the traditions of the
days of Adam and Melchizedek.
This doctrine was carried to Egypt, where this Trinity was
worshiped under the name of Elohim, or in the singular as Eloah.
The philosophic circles of Egypt and later Alexandrian teachers of
Hebraic extraction taught this unity of pluralistic Gods, and
many of Moses' advisers at the time of the exodus believed in this
Trinity.
But the concept of the trinitarian Elohim never became a real part
of Hebrew theology until after they had come under the political
influence of the Babylonians.
and here is more information about Ur and the Salem priests there.
Note in the last the message from Ur.
line 134: The
variegated picture of Deity presented in the Book of Job was
the product of more than a score of Mesopotamian religious
teachers extending over a period of almost three hundred years.
And when you read the lofty concept of divinity found in this
compilation of Mesopotamian beliefs, you will recognize that it
was in the neighborhood of Ur of Chaldea that the idea of a real
God was best preserved during the dark days in Palestine.
line 136: Only at Ur did a voice arise to cry out the mercy
of God, saying: "He shall pray to God and shall find favor with
him and shall see his face with joy, for God will give to man
divine righteousness."
Thus from Ur there is preached salvation, divine favor,
by faith: "He is gracious to the repentant and says, `Deliver him
from going down in the pit, for I have found a ransom.' If any
say, `I have sinned and perverted that which was right, and it
profited me not,' God will deliver his soul from going into the
pit, and he shall see the light." Not since the times of
Melchizedek had the Levantine world heard such a ringing and
cheering
line 140: message of human salvation as this extraordinary
teaching of Elihu, the prophet of Ur and priest of the Salem
believers, that is, the remnant of the onetime Melchizedek colony
in Mesopotamia.
Here is the Jesus connection to Ur
line 180: The caravan
trip across the desert was not a new experience for these much-traveled
men. After Ganid had watched his teacher help with the loading of
their twenty camels and observed him volunteer to drive their own
animal, he exclaimed, "Teacher, is there anything that you
cannot do?"
Jesus only
smiled, saying, "The teacher surely is not without honor in the
eyes of a diligent pupil."
And so they set forth for the ancient city of Ur.
Jesus was much interested in the early history of Ur, the
birthplace of Abraham, and he was equally fascinated with the
ruins and traditions of Susa, so much so that Gonod and Ganid
extended their stay in these parts three weeks in order to afford
Jesus more time to conduct his investigations and also to provide
the better opportunity to persuade him to go back to India with
them.
It was at Ur that Ganid had a long talk with Jesus regarding the
difference between knowledge, wisdom, and truth. And he was
greatly charmed with the saying of the Hebrew wise man:
"Wisdom is the
principal thing; therefore get wisdom. With all your quest for
knowledge, get understanding. Exalt wisdom and she will promote
you. She will bring you to honor if you will but embrace her."
And what was happening around
600BC at the time of Plato, here is a glimpse.
line 111: About
six hundred years before the arrival of Michael, it seemed
to Melchizedek, long since departed from the flesh, that the
purity of his teaching on earth was being unduly jeopardized by
general absorption into the older Urantia beliefs. It
appeared for a time that his mission as a forerunner of Michael
might be in danger of failing.
And in the sixth century before Christ, through an unusual
co-ordination of spiritual agencies, not all of which are
understood even by the planetary supervisors, Urantia witnessed a
most unusual presentation of manifold religious truth. Through
the agency of several human teachers the Salem gospel was restated
and revitalized, and as it was then presented, much has persisted
to the times of this writing.
I feel this one is a very important one that explains much of what
is happening.
The archangel corps
of Nebadon is directed by the first-born of this order, and in
more recent times a divisional headquarters of the archangels has
been maintained on Urantia. It is this unusual fact that
soon arrests the attention of extra-Nebadon student visitors.
Among their early observations of intrauniverse transactions is
the discovery that many ascendant activities of the Brilliant
Evening Stars are directed from the capital of a local system,
Satania. On
Page 409
further examination they discover that certain archangel
activities are directed from a small and apparently insignificant
inhabited world called Urantia. And then ensues the
revelation of Michael's bestowal on Urantia and their immediately
quickened interest in you and your lowly sphere.
Do you grasp the significance of the fact that your lowly and
confused planet has become a divisional headquarters for the
universe administration and direction of certain archangel
activities having to do with the Paradise ascension scheme?
(This is a big revelation for me I just discovered this but look
at what Ive saying and look in reflection to this.)
link
This undoubtedly presages the future concentration of other
ascendant activities on the bestowal world of Michael and lends a
tremendous and solemn import to the Master's personal promise, "I
will come again."
quote:
"I will come again."
Look at that , "I will
come again" and this planet is a divisional headquarters for the
universal ascension scheme that has all to do with Paradise and
the Sevenfold...I was right! and right on track! The whole time,
this must be a confirmation and a message that Jesus is coming
again. Like he is saying this to us as I discover this in context.
In his own words again.
You know when I proclaimed the test I wasnt aware of this in my mind
at all. After all these weks and finding much I never expected to
find this last. Just to think all our converse upon this subject and
to find this direct message and to see my actions reflects perhaps
the action of the divisional headquarters of Paradise on Urantia
which is all to do wit the ascension/Sevenfold scheme.
Tantalising...."I will come again" Direct message form Jesus himself
in light of our conversation.
And sometimes we are visited by representatives of the Central
Universe Paradise,
The Most High
Assistants are a group of volunteering beings, of origin outside
the local universe, who are temporarily assigned as central and
superuniverse representatives to, or observers of, the local
creations. Their number varies constantly but is always far up
in the millions.
From time to time we thus benefit from the ministry and
assistance of such Paradise-origin beings as Perfectors of Wisdom,
Divine Counselors, Universal Censors, Inspired Trinity Spirits,
Trinitized Sons, Solitary Messengers, supernaphim, seconaphim,
tertiaphim, and other gracious ministers, who sojourn with us for
the purpose of helping our native personalities in the effort to
bring all Nebadon into fuller harmony with the ideas of Orvonton
and the ideals of Paradise.
Any of these beings may be voluntarily serving in Nebadon and
hence be technically outside our jurisdiction, but when
functioning by assignment, such personalities of the super- and
central universes are not wholly exempt from the regulations of
the local universe of their sojourn, though they continue to
function as representatives of the higher universes and to work in
accordance with the instructions which constitute their mission in
our realm. Their general headquarters is situated in the
Salvington sector of the Union of Days, and they operate in
Nebadon subject to the oversupervision of this ambassador of the
Paradise Trinity. When serving in unattached groups, these
personalities from the higher realms are usually self-directing,
but when serving on request, they often voluntarily place
themselves wholly under the jurisdiction of the supervising
directors of the realms of assigned function.
Hi I thought this was
interesting, its about change on the spritual levels due to
realisation and actualisation.
The reactions and
fluctuations of spirit gravity are ever true to the content of
spiritual values, the qualitative spiritual status of an
individual or a world.
This drawing power is instantly responsive to the inter- and
intraspirit values of any universe situation or planetary
condition.
Every time a spiritual reality actualizes in the universes,
this change necessitates the immediate and instantaneous
readjustment of spirit gravity.
Such a new spirit is actually a part of the Second Source and
Center;
and just as certainly as mortal man becomes a spiritized being, he
will attain the spiritual Son, the center and source of spirit
gravity.
Thats interesting to me that kind of says that upon realisation and
acuatlisation man experiences a new spirit and spirit gravity which
happens instantaneously, change. I feel this happens in the physical
through realisation and the right conditions.
I also noticed that this can happen to an individual or to a planet,
a world. Lets in our conversation if we are being led through the
scriptures and as we discover and realise and actualise in our
actions and lets say it the right conditions as for example found in
the scripts, could there be a spirit/gravity response as a result
that happens in an instant that could affect the planet?? I just
wonder about that in context to what we are talking about, an
actualisation in response could occur!!
I was thinking with in relation to the second coming. In essence
does man actualy initiate the second coming through his own
realisation and search, For example, man realises, actualises, the
right conditions and the spirit responds to a new spirit gravity
inaccordance to mans realisation. something like that.
Here is a little more about Epochal change in relation to our
planet.
When such an era is
attained on your world, no doubt Machiventa Melchizedek, now
the vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, will occupy the seat
of the Planetary Sovereign;
and it has long been conjectured on Jerusem that he will be
accompanied by a son and daughter of the Urantia Adam and Eve who
are now held on Edentia as wards of the Most Highs of Norlatiadek.
These children of Adam might so serve on Urantia in association
with the Melchizedek-Sovereign since they were deprived of
procreative powers almost 37,000 years ago at the time they gave
up their material bodies on Urantia in preparation for transit to
Edentia.
Here is one from Jesus
directly about this time and note the "all beforehand"
"And now, as I am about
to leave you, I would speak words of comfort. Peace I leave with
you; my peace I give to you. I make these gifts not as the world
gives--by measure--I give each of you all you will receive.
Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be fearful. I
have overcome the world, and in me you shall all triumph through
faith. I have warned you that the Son of Man will be killed,
but I assure you I will come back before I go to the Father, even
though it be for only a little while. And after I have ascended to
the Father, I will surely send the new teacher to be with you and
to abide in your very hearts. And when you see all this come to
pass, be not dismayed, but rather believe, inasmuch as you knew it
all beforehand.
I have loved you with a great affection, and I would not leave
you, but it is the Father's will. My hour has come.
and here is another excerpt on instruction about expression of this
truth. I thought it was relevant.
Always respect the
personality of man. Never should a righteous cause be promoted by
force; spiritual victories can be won only by spiritual power.
This injunction against the employment of material influences
refers to psychic force as well as to physical force. Overpowering
arguments and mental superiority are not to be employed to coerce
men and women into the kingdom. Man's mind is not to be crushed by
the mere weight of logic or overawed by shrewd eloquence.
While emotion as a factor in human decisions cannot be wholly
eliminated, it should not be directly appealed to in the teachings
of those who would advance the cause of the kingdom.
Make your appeals directly to the divine spirit that dwells within
the minds of men. Do not appeal to fear, pity, or mere sentiment.
In appealing to men, be fair; exercise self-control and exhibit
due restraint; show proper respect for the personalities of your
pupils.
Remember that I have said: "Behold, I stand at the door and
knock, and if any man will open, I will come in."
here ia another about Jesus
There was one feature of the bestowal of Michael which was utterly
foreign to the Jewish conception of the Messiah, and that was the
union of the two natures, the human and the divine. The Jews had
variously conceived of the Messiah as perfected human, superhuman,
and even as divine, but they never entertained the concept of the
union of the human and the divine. And this was the great
stumbling block of Jesus' early disciples.
They grasped the human concept of the Messiah as the son of David,
as presented by the earlier prophets; as the Son of Man, the
superhuman idea of Daniel and some of the later prophets; and even
as the Son of God, as depicted by the author of the Book of Enoch
and by certain of his contemporaries; but never had they for a
single moment entertained the true concept of the union in one
earth personality of the two natures, the human and the divine.
The incarnation of the Creator in the form of the creature had
not been revealed beforehand. It was revealed only in Jesus; the
world knew nothing of such things until the Creator Son was made
flesh and dwelt among the mortals of the realm.
3. Has a subject who
has made the supreme decision, has entered into a solemn and
sincere betrothal with the Adjuster. The Adjuster looks beforehand
to the time of actual fusion and reckons the union as an event of
fact.
her is some more
same time innately harmonious. In the seven superuniverses,
however, there is great divergence; there is a wide gulf between
cosmic energy and divine spirit; therefore is there a greater
experiential potential for mind action in harmonizing and
eventually unifying physical pattern with spiritual purposes.
In the time-evolving universes of space there is greater divinity
attenuation, more difficult problems to be solved, and larger
opportunity to acquire experience in their solution. And this
entire superuniverse situation brings into being a larger arena of
evolutionary existence in which the possibility of cosmic
experience is made available alike to creature and Creator--even
to Supreme Deity.
In the evolutionary superuniverses energy-matter is dominant
except in personality, where spirit through the mediation of
mind is struggling for the mastery.
The goal of the evolutionary universes is the subjugation of
energy-matter by mind, the co-ordination of mind with spirit, and
all of this by virtue of the creative and unifying presence of
personality.
Thus, in relation to personality, do physical systems become
subordinate; mind systems, co-ordinate; and spirit systems,
directive.
Revealed religion is the unifying
element of human existence. Revelation unifies history, co-ordinates geology,
astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, sociology, and psychology. Spiritual
experience is the real soul of man's cosmos.
The Supreme Being is not a direct
creator, except that he is the father of Majeston, but he is a synthetic
co-ordinator of all creature-Creator universe activities. The Supreme Being,
now actualizing in the evolutionary universes, is the Deity correlator and
synthesizer of time-space divinity, of triune Paradise Deity in experiential
association with the Supreme Creators of time and space.
When finally actualized, this evolutionary Deity will constitute the
eternal fusion of the finite and the infinite—the everlasting and indissoluble
union of experiential power and spirit personality.
says it all, all unifying.
These are lessons on how to be a creator. Exactly. In the latter are all the key
elements, we are being taught the fundamentals of creation. Its like our
education begins now becuase let me say that our future is related directly to
the administration of the new worlds beyond. Like time/space worlds came into
being in a instant so will the new worlds of the absonite perhaps.
or here another
Some of the amazingly fortuitous
conditions occasionally prevailing on the evolutionary worlds may be due to
the gradually emerging presence of the Supreme, the foretasting of his future
universe activities.
Most of what a mortal would call providential is not; his judgment of such
matters is very handicapped by lack of farsighted vision into the true
meanings of the circumstances of life.
Much of what a mortal would call good luck might really be bad luck; the
smile of fortune that bestows unearned leisure and undeserved wealth may be
the greatest of human afflictions;
the apparent cruelty of a perverse fate that heaps tribulation upon some
suffering mortal may in reality be the tempering fire that is transmuting the
soft iron of immature personality into the tempered steel of real character.
another
No one knows how long these twenty-four Urantia counselors will continue in
their present status, detached from the regular program of universe
activities.
They will no doubt continue to serve in their present capacities until some
change in planetary status ensues, such as the end of a dispensation, the
assumption of full authority by Machiventa Melchizedek, the final adjudication
of the Lucifer rebellion, or the reappearance of Michael on the world of his
final bestowal.
The present resident governor general of Urantia seems inclined to the opinion
that all but Machiventa may be released for Paradise ascension the moment the
system of Satania is restored to the constellation circuits. But other
opinions are also current.
For sure Ideo, I totaly
aggree, I sure do hope they get out there soon on top of the
location. Regardless of war, however I do sense that there is extra
momentum as man becomes concious of this discovery and through sheer
collective desire to discover, man will make this happen. In that I
have faith in man, that when he finds truth he locks on and doesnt
let go and researches.
i was so encouraged by Hoagland I hope that gives the project a good
boost. Lets see what inspired souls can do in this one. Somehow I
feel this will get support even from governments quietly. I reckon
man is desperately trying to find the answer before it becomes a
runaway situation and you know what, you and I are involved in the
answer just through our trailblazing research.
Thats makes a big difference as man becomes concious of the fact. If
its true, my personal hypothesis about this whole adventure
including the test and my calculations Heaven would have to respond
if heaven is part of the mystery. Else it would of been hot air and
a loss of credibility. So that the test for me, head on the chopping
block in what I say.
However God forbide I appear to be tempting the spirits, no way but
If Im finding this and interpreting with a honest heart using all
the information and if its right, then there would have to be a
response from heaven, going by faith and that is the test.
Even heaven doesn't even know the exact moment because the last piece of the key
is the Paradise response which is exclusive to The Father. When I mean the
Sevenfold response or call I mean the seventh Angel in Revelation in the Seventh
week in Enoch. The call and the selection. I suppose in the world of the heaven
its like everyone is in a ready state of activation but no one knows the time of
the call. But the conditions have appear to be ripe and be consistent to what
was foreseen some thousands of years ago by the prophets of old. How appropriate
is that the big mystery, unlocked by the words of the ancients, the Sevenfold.
There words today still ring loud as they saw outside of space/time of this
event then. Such honour for them, for there words to be used in bringing this
puzzle together today. As if they were alive today and present for the special
occasion, Like the Jedi all present in the halls of the Gods.
Like a whole universe coming alive at the sound of the call from Paradise, a
response. And now could be the time. A spontaneous moment that rivets through
the universe in a flash that rips the time/space fabric with infinity, like the
ripped curtain in the temple upon the death of Jesus. Something related to that.
Its happens in a moment and what occurs is a realisation a personal conviction,
unfortunately they are the fires of that valley which Enoch speaks about, I
reckon. But honestly if man had to awake to a message it would have to be done
in a way that man would notice. I suppose. But not in a destructive way, no way
man. But in a discovery or exploration or something on a revelatory way that is
open for all man to discover for himself in truth. In beautiful sublime and
splendid way that would appeal to the spirit of man. But I must there is also a
sever message for insincerity and evil and the perpetuation of it, like
terrorism, wilful murder and unrepentant. Things that should be put on the altar
and taken out of man.
Anyway just some thoughts. I know its not about the book but it could be related
to the location.
And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a
new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a
rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with
the old.
and
Genesis 4:23 And Lamech
said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of
Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my
wounding, and a young man to my hurt. 24 If Cain shall be avenged
sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called
his name Seth: (The originator of the Sethite
priesthood)[9] For God, said she, hath appointed me another
seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him
also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: [10]
then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.
Enos was the first generation of the Sethite priesthood.
then we have Enoch
21 And Enoch lived
sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: [5] 22 And Enoch
walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years,
and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were
three hundred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God:
and he was not; for God took him. (translation), Fusion of the
personality and the thought adjuster, as one.
Is this the Enoch related to the Book of Enoch and its relevance of
today?
But what the Sevenfold tie in with Lamech, the Father of Noah. Could
we compare The Noah story in todays times regarding the second
coming? I would say it would some relevance. Look at the age of
Lamech when he died.
28 And Lamech lived
an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: 29 And he called
his name Noah, [7] saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the Lord hath cursed. 30 And Lamech lived after he
begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons
and daughters: 31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred
seventy and seven years: and he died
So thats Sevenfold and 777 years associated with The length of
Lamechs life. Seems like a Sevenfold link there somewhere. Some
parallel part of a larger connection. Looking at it further in
todays terms could it mean, Sevenfold the Father/Author of change
as represented as change. Faith sons the Noahs of todays forcoming
change. The you have Cain, Sevenfold, the Lamech 70 X sevenfold.
Like a larger Sevenfold scenario that is that part the 7 pattern
which is related to todays climate.
Remebering this is an ancient mystery and there is only one
scenario that will fulfill the mystery.
Judges 14:18 And the
men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun
went down, What is sweeter than honey? and what is stronger than a
lion? And he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer,
ye had not found out my riddle.
Riddle Eh!
The Glory of the temple
in Haggai, It may have clues for todays scenario. note the months
and the dates, there may a clue.
Then there is this little piece on the 21st day, Im kind of
paralleling this with Jesus birthdate UB 21 Aust 7BC
Exodus 12:18 (Read all
of Exodus 12)
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even,
ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of
the month at even.
The latter seems to be a time period of the 14th - the 21st. Now
the seventh week is the test scenario is 15th -22nd, These date
period seems to be clear. Also the message seems to indicate a
time for personal obiedience and humulity.
food for thought.
Now in read the above in conteext and notice the Seven and also note
how it associates itself with coming out of the land of Egypt and is
held as an ordinance for generations, a time period to be respected.
Is that time period significant for todays scenario!.
15 Seven days shall
ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away
leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread
from the first day until the seventh day, (A time of self
reflection) that soul shall be cut off from Israel. 16 And in the
first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh
day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work
shall be done in them, save that which every man [5] must eat,
that only may be done of you. 17 And ye shall observe the feast of
unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your
armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this
day in your generations by an ordinance for ever. (Here is the
time period) 18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of
the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the
one and twentieth day of the month at even. 19 Seven days
shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever
eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off
from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born
in the land. 20 Ye shall eat nothing leavened; in all your
habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.
Well on the 21st of this
month signifies an important time, like the Birthday of Jesus UB
21st Aug 7 BC. Also this date, this year marks the end of the
millenium entering in the 21st pylon or 21st Century on the 21st
August 06
21st Pylon link
referring the Egyptian Book of the Dead
THE OSIRIS AUFANKH,
WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, SAITH: Hail, saith Horus, O Twenty-first
(21st century) pylon of the Still-Heart!
I have made the way. I know thee. I know thy name. I know
the name of the goddess who guardeth thee. "Sword that smiteth at
the utterance
posted
07-09-2006 05:18
