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I reckon you're all wrong about Atlantis, you're all in the wrong time frame. Right of the mark.

The Egyptians got there religions from Dilmun The Andites who came from the East spreading there empire to the west. There homeland of legends sunk, simple and brought the story which became part of the Egyptian culture.


 

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Enki describes Dilmun
 

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"...Bit-Iakin on the shore of the Bitter Sea, as far as Dilmun's border- all these I brought under one rule..." (p. 335. Potts)

"...Uperi, king of Dilmun, whose camp is situated, like a fish, thirty beru (double-hours) away in the midst of the sea of the rising sun..." (p. 334. Potts)

Hymns to Enki, who resided at Eridu, stated that the city was at the edge of _the sea_ and the shadow cast by its fruit trees panted by his shrine fell upon the nearby snake marsh.

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The Mesopotamians called the salt-marshes marattu meaning "bitter" (marah = bitter), perhaps the Hawr Hammar preserves in Arabic the earlier Mesopotamian marattu ?

(Seems almost to match dilmun, submerged Northeastern Persian Gulf.)

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The outline of Dilmun does have a North South aspect and if it did reside on a peninsula backed by freshwater bays and quays it would of been literally seen as in the midst of the sea. appearing to be jutting out in the sea of water on spit of land or a isthmus. It also makes reference to his shrine Babel which of course was close to the sea on the spit of land within Dilmun. This shrine Enki makes reference to is the tower of Babel being of a circular structure, raised and close to the sea and is evident in the images;. The Design of Dilmun including the Circular temple and the walls of Dilmun does look like a fish jutting out into the midst of the sea on an isthmus.

His fruit trees cast shadows upon his shrine, upon examination there is a walled area close to the shrine where farming would of taken place, this would be next to the shrine, like the Kings Gardens. When you look to the North of the shrine there are walls that run for miles fully enclosed and used for protection, farming and produce. Also the Shrine is adjacent to the Snake marsh or a body of water close by it. The walls seem to be next to the snake marsh that extended to the marshy swamp area to the North.

Note that Dalamatia has the same rectangular walled area used for growing produce.


Also the City of Dilmun, possibly on a isthmus in the North South aspect looks like a fish, the outline of Dilmun looks like an actual fish. With protection all around. Also the snake marsh could be the depressed area on the eastern side of the walls. It appears that Dilmun was almost surrounded by water, swamp marshes lakes and lagoons. It was a well protected commercial centre.

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Here is Enki. Note the power ring of Dilmun.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/enki.jpg

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/enki1.jpg

Here is the shrine of Dilmun Babel

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel10_thumb.jpg

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel7_thumb.jpg

And there in lies a city in the circle of Dilmun that sunk around 10,000 years from 600BC generally.

This is where the Egyptians got part of the Atlantis story, the builders of the Egyptian empire migrated from here and brought the myths and legends.

I reckon there is admixation of a number of accounts in the Atlantis story. But really the true land of the Gods came from here.
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Which was the first place that sunk 150,000 years ago.
1stEden was 38,000 - 34,000
Dilmun was 50,000 - 10,000BC from 300BC

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/overview.jpg

I think the Atlantis story is combination of aspects of Dilmun and 1Eden and Dalamatia all rolled up in a bag of literal myth.

Forget about the 1200 - 800 BC time range all that is recent history.

Robert Sarmast is right, Im right and Nikas is wrong! hehehe

Nah Nikas is partially correct about a civilisation but it was the Andites from the East who inhabited the island. These Andites came from Dilmun and Mesopotamia as the sea levels rose and flooded the ancient cities. These migrating Andites brought circle maker with them and nurtured the symbol of there homeland in there religions. These circle markers are in Malta. But Malta was colony of the Andites and wasn't the first place of the legendary Atlantis . The same spread of this culture can be seen in Spain in regards to the spread of the circle emblem the Andite/Babel/Circle culture.


sevens

[ 02-06-2007, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

 

Hey Cooooolter and hi Stephen

How is going? I hope you are well!

Gee its great to hear from you and to see your post. I haven't read that discourse for a while but its exactly what Im experiencing in this path.

Truly supernal and just fantastic those words of Jesu,s its truly the experience as the expressed in Jesus' words particularly in this discovery experience where I was free to venture forth and discover for myself this truly supernal truth and experience.

Ive been here for week just sharing the research in order to test it with other Jesus minded people, to see and check for weakness or even error. I wanted to be here to share this with the Christian community to see how they feel about what I put forward and to share the general experience. I always wanted to find a bridge between the UB and Christianity and I think 1stEden, Dalamatia and Dilmun are the tickets. However we all have to go through the physical experience of discovery and turn up what we expect beforehand.

I figure it would be a good test of the research. I haven't being going berserk on the UB stuff however Ive been drawing much from the Bible and other related books to make connection. I only draw from the UB if there is nothing else or to make a point about something. I have found much interesting information here and many scripture connections. Its been a good journey and I appreciate Stephens concern and curiosity. No problem at all.

Obviously there is concern about deception in the Christian ideology about end times so I figure by testing all the information here beforehand to check for deception and eventually go through physical discovery should dispel all error if its exists. So basically by putting the UB and the books on the table and testing the scriptures in relation to the reality going on in physical discovery should be a thorough testing ground and would be compatible with the scientific method.

Personally I feel 100% confident and have no worries, however other people have to check and research themselves of "the matter of fact"

If its correct and we actually physically discover the 7 commandments on a stone slab in Dalamatia and can read the writing then I figure no one has any excuses to deny. Truth is truth and everyone, agree or disagree has been on the journey to witness themselves.

Stephen, thanks for the opportunity to allow this research up, I know its a little sensitive and long but it could be a real pinnacle point in religion and could mean worldwide change in the perception of religion in the way of expansion of the Jesus truth and reality. We are all honest, truthful and transparent in the discovery of truth that can be substantiated in the physical through the 7 commands.

Also note nearly all of the UB readers have been through the Christian experiences and many people because of the UB appreciate the Bible and other Christian works more fully. Understand that our faith has been increased and we all sense things more accurately. Like when reading the Bible I see many things more than ever before. Always remember the UB is not anti Christian or anyone all the researchers still research the bible in there own way because they can appreciate the Bible so much more because of the expanded information given by the UB. Also nothing is given in fear or in doctrine.

Anyway that was a little witness of my experience in the UB and Bible embracing all.

I would like to research the unknown church more fully to see its characteristics and to see if there is a match or connection for today?

What is the unknown church and its characteristics?

Has anyone got ideas on that thought line?

thanks sevens

Hi Epsilon

No worries to what you say. I was just being tardy when I said you're all wrong. aah I was just having a fun and stirring you all. Give you all a hard time.

But anyway I do feel that the Atlantis story is a blend of many ancient places of the Gods. Going by gut here the Atlantis story has many characteristics that seem to match all the submerged places.

Ive been researching the fact of the matter for a while and the more I discover the more it appears that the Atlantis story is admixed with other relevant details of the other ancient places.

If you combine all the elements of the Atlantis story in detail I feel I see characteristics and elements that pertain to each ancient place in specific details.

For example the circles of Atlantis and circle of Babel I believe is the same connection also you can see the same circle in Sumerian tablets coming from the same area. We know the Sumerians followed the Nodite idea of the Gods rather than the 1Eden truth of Adam. I feel the Sumerian notion has direct connection to Dilmun the bright place.

Dilmun was submerged by rising sea levels around 10,000 years ago from 600BC like in Atlantis. That fits perfect with the submergence of Dilmun. The inhabitants of Dilmun and the Persian Gulf migrated to the West, Egypt and through to Europe bringing there legends and symbols.

Also the destruction of 1Eden and the Gilbraltor break fits perfect with the Atlantis destruction.
another subtle connection but this time related to 1Eden not Dilmun. Dilmun I would think submerged over time slowly compared to the destruction of 1stEden.

I'm not sure if I can prove any of this but I feel its worth considering all the other ancient places that been discovered which are connected together in one way or another.

just some thoughts
sevens

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001713#000036

Hi Epsilon

No worries to what you say. I was just being tardy when I said you're all wrong. aah I was just having a fun and stirring you all. Give you all a hard time.

But anyway I do feel that the Atlantis story is a blend of many ancient places of the Gods. Going by gut here the Atlantis story has many characteristics that seem to have specific matches to each submerged places speaking of Dalamatia, Dilmun, Babel and Eden.

Ive been researching the fact of the matter for a while and the more I discover the more it appears that the Atlantis story is admixed with other relevant details of the other ancient places.

If you combine all the elements of the Atlantis story in detail I feel I see characteristics and elements that pertain to each ancient place in specific details.

For example the circles of Atlantis and circle of Babel I believe is the same connection also you can see the same circle in Sumerian tablets coming from the same area. We know the Sumerians followed the Nodite idea of the Gods rather than the 1Eden truth of Adam. I feel the Sumerian notion has direct connection to Dilmun the bright place.

We also know that the Sumerian legends of old are all a garbled memories of the Gods and there fate being a combination of 1Eden(Adam) and Dalamatia (The first home of the Gods). Therefore there is an amount of confusion, Im assuming by what I see is the Atlantis story any also be affected in the same way. Garbled memories of the Gods and spread over a number of places with elements of each ancient place in specific detail of happened there or how it happened.

for example
Dilmun was submerged by rising sea levels around 10,000 years ago from 600BC like in Atlantis. That fits perfect with the submergence of Dilmun. The inhabitants of Dilmun and the Persian Gulf migrated to the West, Egypt and through to Europe bringing there legends and symbols.

Also the destruction of 1Eden and the Gilbraltor break fits perfect with the Atlantis destruction.
another subtle connection but this time related to 1Eden not Dilmun. Dilmun I would think submerged over time slowly compared to the destruction of 1stEden.

I'm not sure if I can prove any of this but I feel its worth considering all the other ancient places that been discovered which are connected together in one way or another.

just some thoughts
sevens

 

Posted: Wed 2 month Feb 07, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: look at the time of post I just saw that!!  and look at the sevens upon this proclamation.  The 7 occurrence feature in the timeline was not planned or thought off, just spontaneous.

The Quest for the Seven Commands
"The Fathers way" 7/2/07 at 7:02 am  made public

Seems like a worthy quest for the ancient tablets of the Seven commands in the test of everything. Presented to the world if the Fathers way tablets are found should be something worthy of research and study for future generations as they see the trail in all the books of faith, working together in tandem, and in a oneness and unification in the discovery of the foundations where the 7 commands have the last word.

How symbolic is that? the seven commands have the last say but it could be the beginning. Commands directly from the Father where the original tablets (Hopefully written on large stone slabs) written in the hands of the Sons of Gods in Dalamatia when there was harmony.

Gee could that be symbolic of the book of life? the seven commands, the Fathers way?

It seems so fitting that the sevens commands should be found there.

I'm just reflecting upon the post and Ive just noticed the time stamp of the post and the sequence of 7s in the time and date. It seems to have the official 7s (The Fathers) marker. I feel this was a small timeline experience only realising later much of this research has happened that way.

Maybe this is the "Seal of the Father"?

In our timeline experience here. Could this be a seal in the timeline in this reality?

I know this experience! I even posted up something of this from the UB, its the only way the Paradise Trinity can speak to us directly in those beforehand as foreseen as written by the authors of old and discovered in the books through the experiential experience of the actual discovery reality and realising later through further discovery in the books that you experienced it. It has to be defined better but I can recognise those things.



sevens

The Quest for the Seven Commands
"The Fathers way" 7/2/07 at 7:02 am made public

Seems like a worthy quest for the ancient tablets of the Seven commands in the test of everything. Presented to the world if the Fathers way tablets are found should be something worthy of research and study for future generations as they see the trail in all the books of faith, working together in tandem, and in a oneness and unification in the discovery of the foundations where the 7 commands have the last word.

How symbolic is that? the seven commands have the last say but it could be the beginning. Commands directly from the Father where the original tablets (Hopefully written on large stone slabs) written in the hands of the "Sons of Gods in Dalamatia when there was harmony.

Gee could that be symbolic of the book of life? the seven commands, the Fathers way?

It seems so fitting that the sevens commands should be found there.

Im just reflecting upon the post and Ive just noticed the time stamp of the post and the sequence of 7s in the time and date. It seems to have the official 7s (The Fathers) marker. I feel this was a small timeline experience only realising later much of this research has happened that way.

Maybe this is the "Seal of the Father"?

In our timeline experience here. Could this be a seal in the timeline in this reality?

I know this experience! I even posted up something of this from the UB, its the only way the Paradise Trinity can speak to us directly in those beforehand as foreseen as written by the authors of old and discovered in the books through the experiential experience of the actual discovery reality and realising later through further discovery in the books that you experienced it. It has to be defined better but I can recognise those things.

You know here is a link to various scriptures that caught my eye and I recorded about the seal. All the thoughts are my own and are seen in view of the search for Eden at the time. However, all these thought could relate to these places. Also many other things can be seen in these scriptures but Im only viewing them in lieu of 1stEden.

Consider , what was written then as i was seeing it seems different and needs further work as this reality has been ever unfolding.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/the_seal.htm

I thought this was fascinating

 

"Hail, thou who makest sweet the time of the Two Lands" Wow! and its association with the tree of life. I go about his egg Gee could that be a reference to the seven commands?

Then "I shine at the moment of the mighty of strength," He shines with strength as in conviction. Makest sweet to the times of the two lands, I understand it could be a reference upper and lower Egypt but it could have wider ramifications.

"dweller among the celestial food." Absolute clear reference to the tree of life and its association with the one how maketh the sweet times of the two lands. I would suggest the resurrection of the memory of the original places that housed the tree of life, Adam and Eve and the Sons of God in the sweet time. 1stEden and Dalamatia.




sevens

The Quest for the Seven Commands
"The Fathers way" 7/2/07 at 7:02 am made public

The test of all faith

Seems like a worthy quest for the ancient tablets of the Seven commands in the test of everything. Presented to the world if the Fathers way tablets are found should be something worthy of research and study for future generations as they see the trail in all the books of faith, working together in tandem, and in a oneness and unification in the discovery of the foundations where the 7 commands have the last word.

How symbolic is that? the seven commands have the last say but it could be the beginning. Commands directly from the Father where the original tablets (Hopefully written on large stone slabs) written in the hands of the "Sons of Gods in Dalamatia when there was harmony.

Gee could that be symbolic of the book of life? the seven commands, the Fathers way?

It seems so fitting that the sevens commands should be found there.

Im just reflecting upon the post and Ive just noticed the time stamp of the post and the sequence of 7s in the time and date. It seems to have the official 7s (The Fathers) marker. I feel this was a small timeline experience only realising later much of this research has happened that way.

Maybe this is the "Seal of the Father"?

In our timeline experience here. Could this be a seal in the timeline in this reality?

I know this experience! I even posted up something of this from the UB, its the only way the Paradise Trinity can speak to us directly in those beforehand as foreseen as written by the authors of old and discovered in the books through the experiential experience of the actual discovery reality and realising later through further discovery in the books that you experienced it. It has to be defined better but I can recognise those things.

You know here is a link to various scriptures that caught my eye and I recorded about the seal. All the thoughts are my own and are seen in view of the search for Eden at the time. However, all these thought could relate to these places. Also many other things can be seen in these scriptures but Im only viewing them in lieu of 1stEden.

Consider , what was written then as i was seeing it seems different and needs further work as this reality has been ever unfolding.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/the_seal.htm

I thought this was fascinating

 

"Hail, thou who makest sweet the time of the Two Lands" Wow! is that reference to the lands and its association with the tree of life. I go about his egg Could that be a reference to the seven commands?

Then "I shine at the moment of the mighty of strength," He shines with strength as in conviction. Makest sweet to the times of the two lands, I understand it could be a reference upper and lower Egypt but it could have wider ramifications. Like raising the knowledge of the 2 lands as we see today.

"dweller among the celestial food." Absolute clear reference to the tree of life and its association with the one how maketh the sweet times of the two lands. I would suggest the resurrection of the memory of the original places that housed the tree of life, Adam and Eve and the Sons of God in the sweet time. 1stEden and Dalamatia.

Im reviewing the Seal collection in the above link. I must say that since I am down the timeline at this juction speaking now of all the places, I see so much more. Those early thoughts were very accurate in many ways.

Here is a Bible code 2 interpretation I did well over a year ago and look at where we are at with respect to the

Quest of the Seven commands
"The Fathers Way"

Just proclaimed today.

The following thoughts on the Bible code 2 was just read and posted without any edit from the seal link. Remember this what I feel over a year ago and look where we are at in proclamation of the Seven commands. The tablets and the language of Dalamatia as revealed in the books.
 

How uncanny was that and how relevant is it today going over them right now and considering was what proclaimed earlier today in relation to the "Quest for the Seven commands"

sevens

Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject:

Stephen

You should rely on the scriptures and show evidence to back your thoughts. Many people have spent years searching this and you blow it off just like that.

Why don't we do a study on the deceptions.

What is the deception? How does it entail? How does it happen? In this study why don't you prove it in the scriptures.

Also Stephen and Petra I use the scriptures you don't use nothing to refute. Just shallow responses with no understanding and particularly scriptures.

Prove that this is a deception through the scriptures.

Show me the evidence not the usual fear laden rhetoric. That only shows very little faith and nothing to offer.

People demand much more than the usual fear ridden rhetoric.

Show something and relate it to what I have presented.

Also, How do you know that I'm wrong!

And what if this is right.

Also how do propose the second coming will happen.

Petra, don't answer in 2 liner replies that an insult considering the research that have gone into this research.

Please don't try and ride on the back of others.

Please show your research and justify your position.

I'm mean if your position was presented in a court of law on this study it would be thrown and treated as irrelevant. Show something, I want to see it

Also you guys really deny the power of the Holy Spirit and seem to prop up fear in your use of demons. Demons have no power since Pentecost at all, only what fear people give to them. Also the spiritual administration has changed since Pentecost. All demons are interned except one but I feel that time drawing to an end.

Lets do a study on the deception in the end days. That would be more constructive to the things we are debating.

III start it off

Like I said previously its not the places, its the attitude or the motive that could be used in these ancient places that could be used in the wrong way. Like a person could use the discovery of the ancient places for self purpose. Like disregard the information that led to the place. They may claim the ancient place to there religion and claim some prophethood sent by God and deceive the world therefore defiling the temple in some self vain glorious way, Dalamatia was a city that had an ancient temple. In essence, its holy ground and can be defiled if its used in the wrong way particulary to decieve people.

Now consider the religious tensions over there and the feelings of desperation which includes extremism. Think of "who" over there could proclaim himself through the ancient places?? Particularly religious leaders! The reason I say that its for protection of the truth that these thoughts are shared so we can see the timeline as things appear and perhaps see prophecy come to pass! But we know the truth and the concerns beforehand and we are testing it along the way.

This is very hot information and can be used in the wrong way. As for me I'm sharing my scenario of the End Times of the Epoch in my studies of all the books. I'm testing my material with the you since your the only one that replies plus Coulter and Petra. There will come a time when this test will be done. Cant go forever and personally I think if ever there was a time it could be now or real soon.

Isaiah instructs us to prophecy when you see the signs. This scenario I believe details all the constructs and elements that it fulfills many things in the right conditions.

There is definitely judgment or some change connected to the ancient places. III definitely stand by my research. I believe the Seven commands has something to do with it. It just seems so logical to me, makes all sense!

Nothing conflicts in the search for the ancient places. I have seen all the clues, well most of them and they don't conflict and they all speak of the foundations of old and of what is hidden is found and many more things All these things form a combined harmonization of all levels of knowledge.

Anyway have a think about the motives and its possible connection to deception.

What I present is honest research in the books. If we don't find the tablets or the city when there diving then I'm wrong. I would admit that. However If we do the 7 commands as in the UB then the information is just spot on.

Right on and has always been right on target. That would conclude the debate and change many things.

The Quest for the 7 commands
The Fathers Way
the test of everything

or the "Test of All Faith"

Absolutely with conviction. The Father in heaven, creator of all Heaven and Earth.

This I believe is the source of all things that have occurred. This is bigger than sliced bread. Everyone would literally be silenced as these Seven commands are read out and broadcast literally to the world and fulfill all prophecy. Doesn't that just make sense? How could this be a deception in the harmonisation of scripture and other information along with science. Working together to find out the fact of the matter even scripture endorses that. Reading out the Seven commandments the object, of the search for the hidden tablets (Stone slabs). Found exactly where they should be!

There is nothing on the planet that compares to this and mind you I feel there is judgement attached or some change and I think its knowledge on all levels pointing to something very obvious.

Also can you tell me about it, the unknown church???



sevens

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject:

Gee you guys are bit paranoid

I mean I appreciate your opinions however you have not demonstrated anything in scripture. Yes you've cast your opinions but showed no backing in the scriptures to find connection.

[quote]You are totally out of it if you think that- demons are still around us in this world-[/quote]

I think in truth there has been lots of changes and as far as Im aware there is one rebellious son left.

You talk about Paganism, what paganism? There is no ritual All this research is objective and intuitive. You say I use psychology against.

What are you talking about? I feel quite confused listening to you guys.

Stephen can you demonstrate false doctrine in the UB please. Just copy some extracts and we will study it. No problem.

Lets investigate it the matter and see how it stands up.

I can tell you guys don't read the posts much.

Ive used scripts out of the Bible, the ub and information from other one God religion and everything I could find and pieced the fragments together to find the track.

What's wrong with that. Ive been objective Ive used evidence where I can find it to support the contention. Its been a really honest journey and here are you guys still controlled by fear and a lack of faith into exploring. Where is your adventure in the Bible and the other books. There is certainly nothing secular or ritualistic in the research.

Its just straight out adventure and discovery get the soul of going and stimulate his fear ridden doctrine into something supernal and sublime.

I think this project is so perfected that you guys cannot argue against it. No one can argue against it in real truth. There is simply no reply good enough to convince me otherwise.

Absolutely not! There is no evidence that you can show me that I should stop this direction. Yet on the other hand there is an abundance of evidence where eventually the Father will stop all this small minded argument which is virtually over doctrinal argument.

By they way about the Bible who was it that decided to outlaw the Book of Enoch of the Bible? Was it at the council of Nice in 300AD. How do we know they where right when the Catholic church decided Enoch was wrong to include in the Bible.

Yet the Essenes studied the Book of Enoch, all the prophets looked into it and drew from it, some of the new testament writers included its passages out of Enoch in there books, John the Baptist and would of studied it and Jesus did study it and coined the term Son of Man.

And yet Christians think its demonic or something weird. That only should shows how wrong man can be and displays the effect of thinking demons are all around us and have this so called power over mankind.

They have no power in light of truth and the is up for that one last rebellious son.

That as far as I'm concerned is the truth of the matter.

I would everyone do a thorough study of all the books in the project and see what happens in the timeline and see the outcome of the journey, let that be the witness of the father in heaven and his marvelous work and wonder.

I reckon the 7 commands will be discovered and presented to the planet and I foresee another great presentation of our wonderful Father, Brother and friend Jesus. Joshua ben Joseph! The whole story of his life as a continued progression of the 7 commands.

Another test and standard of the test of all faith.

If we locate the 7 commands as stipulated in the UB then the Jesus presentation goes ahead OK!

If we don't locate the 7 commands then the Jesus presentation will not manifest in this research. OK!

I think that is fair and is an extension to "the test of all faith"

So that's the plan after the presentation of the discovery of the Seven commands, if found. The Jesus presentation goes ahead and manifests as in the UB.

The discovery of the 7 commands would be the confirmation of new knowledge and would also confirm the Jesus presentation.




sevens

Hi Coulter

That was an excellent section of the Bible you posted. Exactly what I feel to.

It really says it all.

Like this other post I found of yours

 

How true is that, i agree completely.


sevens

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject:

Hi Colter

That was an excellent section of the Bible you posted. Exactly what I feel to.

It really says it all.

Like this other post I found of yours

 

How true is that, i agree completely.

A cystallised doctrine can have a limited effect on the spiritual growth of a person and the Father can only use a person to that extent within the limitation or boundaries. I think the Father wants Christians to look into the matter further and investigate the books and locations and look in the Bible.

Personally, I have all faith that this is a good path, it was followed by the bidding of the Father in the scriptures just leading me on to the Seven commands after all these years and the many, many discoveries along the way, unbelievable connection discoveries and in not just the UB but in all the books of religion.

I'm telling you things are moving forward, I can sense a quickening or a sense about it the whole thing, I think I see it rather clearly as outlined in the above posts of the Seven command action progression and the way its supposed to happen. I feel we are in the right place in the right moment just going with the waves of the reality of the Father manifesting. I dont think there is anything wrong with this and Im only following the bidding of the father in the books and getting all excited about it.

Could you ever believe it? Worlds greatest secret under our noses the whole time but now with technology we can get a glimpse of our past with a full account of our origins and his whole creation.

I really praise the Father and Jesus and the new Jesus administration of this planet for there guidance in the bidding of the Father and coming to rescue planet earth from self destruction over time.

Particularly in the way they have done this and executed there way of revealing truth. Such a noble estate, this is absolutely worthy of the highest. Truly incredible that The Father would show himself through the discovery of the Seven commands and the path to city of our lost disappointments and hopes, the connection.

As I wrote the lost cities in the above, it just occured to me this piece (in virtual time)

In the following is a piece of the most beautiful story in the UB called "The young man that was afraid"

I have read this many times over the years and has always tuoched my soul. I feel can really relate to this. For me its most touching piece in the book.

Here is an extract that is real personal. for example just as you read in the following "As you so well know the trails to Phenix, having traversed them many times, so do I well know the way to the city of your disappointed hopes and thwarted ambitions. I can relate personally to that considering the discoveries of the cites of great disappointment. Dalamatia, 1stEden, and Dilmun they all cites of disappointment! In the personal record Jesus.

In the following is an extract from the

From the young man that was afraid
 

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper130.html#6.%20THE%20YOUNG%20MAN%20WHO%20WAS%20AFRAID

I think that would touch the soul of any young dislocated person.

Just amazing!!

Ive read this piece so many times and always has it touched my heart and filled my soul, I can relate to it. Its only now that I see Jesus' personal connection with the cities of his disappointed hopes and thwarted ambitions manifesting in the actual reality as in the discovery of the lost cities of 1stEden, Dalamatia Dilmun and Babel.

I propose this excerpt as the pilot presentation of the hugest Jesus presentation you've ever seen in your life, post Seven commands discovery presentation. This is all about Jesus' lost cities. There is personal connection in writing, Jesus must be personally involved in this project and has high ambitions of the result.

Gee its only tonight that I find this connectivity of Jesus directly with these submerged cities in this piece right under my nose the whole time, over all the years and it led to this and it was in this piece the whole time Jesus and the cities and the combing fragments. Wow! makes all sense and connects. right on!

Fantastic!!

Glory be to the Father!!]


Here is a clue to what is written on the stone slabs in Dalamatia perhaps near the "house of Fad"

 

So in Dalamatia we should expect stone slabs with either

The Seven commands
The Seven chants of worship, they could be fragmented.
or fragments of the Fathers prayer

We know the alphabet is 25 character.

 

heres another clue

 

Glory be to the Father!!

sevens

Hi Colter

 

I often wonder about that to. Just in these examples the Bible has been connected and used quite often and judgment is upon us. The again this exactly the response Jesus received with his truth. I would expect exactly the same in this current age of doctrine. Its the same thing going, history is truly repeating itself here.

Stephen I still like to hear your thoughts on the unknown church in the end times.

What is there role, it sounds like its a group that are close to the truth but not in the ritual and tradition of Christians. Its sounds like just individuals who simply follows Jesus' teachings and The Father uses this group to bring about the call. By the sounds of it the Father has great respect for this unknown group that is involved in the end times and a group the Father himself teaches!

Stephen What are your thoughts on the unknown church?

sevens

Last edited by sevens on Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:56 am

Hi Colter

I really enjoyed your science post. I also found great connectivity in the UB and what scientists have discovered.

Quite enlightening!



sevens

[quote]Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:[/quote]

Hi I was thinking about this excerpt
[b]
the sun be darkened, and the moon[/b]

Could the sun and the moon be representative of religions that pertain or sun and moon worship where religions in those days and does reflect in religions of today in the Sun and Moon worship origins.

Does it mean that truth will change and make the light of these religions obsolete instantly due to a obvious change of knowledge.

Also the Stars are representative of the angels and the spiritual world. Does the "and the stars shall fall from heaven," mean simply adjudication of the rebellion. Where all the rebels angels are judged? Its seems to relate to the next verse "the powers of the heavens shall be shaken" As you can see its all about the change of religion and the adjudication of the Angels that are related to the powers of heaven.

I personally don't think its nuclear bombs that this verse is referring to, I think its representative of change of religion and the adjudication of the Ancient of Days.

Obviously there is an instrument or tool that enable this to happen that would produce this result. I believe the instrument is the "Test of all faiths" as related to the ancient foundations and could very well related to the 7 commands and its manifestation.

There must be something that changes the sun and the moon, I think its where we are right now.



regards
sevens

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10324#10324

Hi Petra.

I cant accept much of things you say , sorry

 

What about the above post that was all drawn from a previous Biblical post of one of your colleagues.

I can tell you haven't done a detailed study of the UB yourself, like reading and researching the whole book properly without pride or prejudice.

How could you possibly judge another work particularly when you have not studied the book fully. This is indicated by your refusal to even spell Urantia properly.

The couple of scriptures you use is not relevant to the discussion as you are using them to judge me personally but you know nothing about me at all. I do serve the Lord Jesus and the Father everyday. I don't know where you coming from but that's all I do everyday is serve the lord in this work and my life is the evidence so don't come onto me with that judgment.

Perhaps judge yourself but not me. Perhaps it is you that has to research into the "fact of the matter" more so and remember when some people ask Jesus for mercy during judgement who claimed things in jesus' name. Jesus doesn't know them? Because of their attitude even though they healed people in Jesus' name.

That is directly pointing towards the Church because of there failed attitude in fearing people into the Church by using fear with doctrine as the tool to convert not through knowledge, enlightenment, personal discovery and revelation without prejudice. And also for rejecting and persecuting the call when it comes because of there stiff necks and failure to research all things of all religions in order to learn more.

I think the Church has much more to learn but will be unable to due to some fear based bad doctrine made by men in institutions.

 

There is nothing wrong in enquiry and looking into things. My interpretations are based on my research and experience in all the books. My interpretation of the above posts seems consistent. There are many gaps in the Bible and the Bible has undergone edit in its past, so much for the so called word of God that was editied! Science and religion work together, your views are the result of limitations of doctrines that you where taught which reminds of when the Church taught the earth was flat in the dark ages

Please explain the new book mentioned in revelation of which the standards of judgement will based on. Also what about the books also mentioned in Rev connected to the new book???? it says other books, not one book, but books......get it!...all the books!

The Seven commands are the first laws given to man which the Hebrews extended in the edit of there religion.

How do you know that Christianity in doctrine is not influenced by other religions of the past. Remember the Jews where in captivity and edited all there scriptures in Persia/Babylon. that's what I was taught in Bible college. Also it is where they also discovered the Psalms from the earlier Melchizedek Salem teachers who where there previously.


Here is a demonstration


 

Here in the following image is a Babylonian Tablet with the three circles of the Salem teachers. No doubt scholars today have no idea what the 3 circles mean.



and

 

I thought that was an interesting demonstration of the 3 circles and the connection of history and the above Sumerian tablet. I feel the UB and the tablets makes a powerful connection in the above.


Who is to say what the Jews edited, adopted and introduced in that time of captivity within there books?

I'm sorry you have shown me no evidence other than just judgements in the vain hope to establish the UB as error or a deception.

Here is something in the UB that has a duality in relation to the foundations discovered.

The below are all from Paper 195 UB

 

Here is some home truths and should be considered.

 

and another home truth for Christianity

 

Exactly the same as in what is being attempted here to stop truth with no evidence in scripture regarding the UB and its planetary Jesus operations. This is only history repeating itself and Man does not like expansion but the Father has different ideas and its all to do with his church.

Also some churches should do away with the enforced 10% rubbish that has no basis at all. A man should give what he wants to give and that's it. Man cannot buy his way into heaven and no church should use emotional blackmail on the individual regarding the the 10% money grab, that is an abomination and the Father is not interested in that at all and especially the individuals who use scripture in there inner mindal schemes. I know there are heaps of churches that do this and its where it goes all wrong. Jesus never required that, why should the church think differently.

If the preacher is worth it, people will give but people shouldn't be forced or harassed to give. Let that be an act of his own will rather than the churches will. No scripture in the bible should be used at all for grabbing money from faith bearing people.

and another big home truth

 

trumpet blasts of the Middle Ages, isn't that what's happening today currently in the Middle East. Looks like man has not learnt a thing from his church. Looks like man is repeating the same mistake and church/government is involved in this error. Thats why these ancient foundations is the path that will bring peace, not the war cry of the middle ages which was a disaster, again influenced by religion. The same thing can be seen in the pulpits of Christianity today in the attitude that is promoted in the churches. Exclusive, the chosen ones, Im safe but you go to hell and all the demonic espousing who have no power becuase of Pentecost, except the power people give the one demon that still exists but I believe not for long!

Believe me democracy as being espoused is not the answer to the troubled areas but its the new enlarged revelation and discovery that will make man think again because its in his face and has nowhere to run or take cover. No doctrine will save man but the truth of Jesus and his relationship with the Father and with mankind in the aspiration of truth, beauty and goodness. That would be doing the Fathers will rather than all this judging others in their research.

and

 

Just opinions based on no study of the "fact of the matter" Gee what do they teach in Bible College these days. Im sure its become a very shallow overview because of gross exclusivity and limited thinking. The whole thing about truth is finding it for yourself and make your own enquiries.

lastly another ub clue using Isaiah to what I feel refers to the ancient foundations and its rebuilding for Gods purpose.

[quote]




 

and I wonder if this is a message to the Catholic church today through Peter.

 

Still remember in this thread we are testing everything, just everything, no exclusivity and The Father is going strip all the false doctrine that affect his church. It will be a real refinement of his church and the leaders cannot escape from this.

This is the tribulation for Christianity more so than any other religion on the planet because its the church that supposedly espouses Jesus' teachings so its the one that will undergo the greater refinement and will be humbled as the bad doctrine are cut out of the vine. So I would get of the back side and research, research, research and do more research and save the judging for the ancient of Days who I think are very close to us in this time. Because man for the first time is locked on to the target of the ancient foundations and places. God and man will walk together in the manifestation of the ancient places into the reality of mankind.


sevens

 JL Canton

No problem at all, it was just as I see it.

About

 

I agree you. However I feel we are in the tribulation of our faith right now and will become more apparent as we move along the timeline and come to that point of transition or when the call is made.

Then our tribulation will be over.

Just some thoughts

thanks for your reply
sevens

Hi JL Canton

No problem at all, it was just as I see it.

About

 

I agree you. However I feel we are in the tribulation of our faith right now and will become more apparent as we move along the timeline and come to that point of transition or when the call is made.

Then our tribulation will be over. But then the tribulation of the world of no faith begins, the call is the wake up call. But we will all be gone and the world left will have to fend for itself in its real judgement tribulation.

I don't think the prophets and servants of the lord will not actually witness judgement or perhaps they will but from a very safe place as in observation.

Just some thoughts

thanks for your reply
sevens

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject:

Apart from my feelings in the above I found this to prehaps hold clues.

 

This journey is like the perfect journey that changes all things through an immeadiate realisation of our ancient foundations in a journey of faith that entails all the relevant books of our past religions and also included in fragments of myth and legend and through scientific archaeology.

This journey of faith is like seeing the almighty pices of the puzzle coming together that could realise spiritual stability on this planet. The Seven commands and probably more is mostly related to it.

I can see the above quote relating to the what is happening today, in this reality and can see real potential of world peace coming from the ancient places through its message and the information it points to.

To me it feels like a completion of all the books and in truth!

 

I feel the following could be a subtle message from Jesus through the UB in relation to the future dispute between Abner and Paul with the understanding of the Trinity concept but I feel this message could be for this time between the religions as we go through this current timeline. Abner and his Seventy disciples became the Eastern Christian church (The Philadelphian Church) whose teachings became absorbed in Islam some hundreds of years later.

Remnants of Abner's teachings still exist within the Quran in fragmentary form.

Here is revelation and the church of Philadelphia, it could be a reflection of the small following that still adhere to Abner's message, maybe its for the small remnant of the Eastern Christian church. Its just a thought.

The Message to Philadelphia

 

I was drawn to this 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God Could a pillar been seen as a stone that is honoured in a temple? Where people would surround it and walk around the stone? or Pillar. What religion today has a pillar in the temple? What religion ideolizes a pillar in the middle of a temple? See the 70 where a combination of John the Baptist followers and maybe the some of the Essenes perhaps. They had there own ideas that was different to the Jesus meassge. Abner there leader who took over from John the Baptist was also instructed by Jesus and given guidance. After Jesus passed on, differences arose between Paul and Abner.

Becuase Abners teachings was absorbed in Isalm. Maybe the Revelation is reflecting Philadelphia church in its final evolution but also reflecting the small band of truth believers of Abners teachings within the main faith Islam but also encompasses the remaining John the Baptist followers in Iraq or the Chaldean Christians and other John the Baptist groups which encompasses Mesopotamian and Sryiac groups who are a weak group but have persisted overtime and is recognized by the Spirit of the Churches in this final hour. Food for thought!

I thought the clue was in the pillar in the temple and the stone mecca perhaps! Philadephia church evolution of the time.

 

And here is the Parables of the Pounds.

I think there are many clues here to next connection to the next Epochal revelation.

 

I think that last piece was beautiful and has many clues to what I feel is manifesting.

and a decree from Jesus

 

sevens

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject:

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject:

Hi Petra No worries whatever we feel

 

Where is your scriptures to prove the UB unbiblical?


 

Perhaps there talking about you, Who knows?. We just have to see what is uncovered, lets see the evidence speak for itself then we can make the final assessment. Much will balance on that final conclusion no matter how or what view we beieve. But I have full living faith in this work.

 

How do you know the Bible has been affected by earlier religions in evolution over the ages. You sound like some preacher on some pulpit un bending and unwilling to look into things. The New Testament expanded religon about Jesus so can we in the age be expanded by the Holy Spirit of the religion of Jesus through a Book fom the Father directly and something meaningful which does connect with all knowledge working together, harmonized.

 

What!! No way, what customs? sure they weren't talking about inferior religions of the times then. You must be mad to think what you saying and equate that with me. I find great pleasure in looking into the books of religion and Im inspired with the what the Father of heaven, the one God has done. You haven't demonstrated anything yourself. What are views on how it will happen in detail and something that I can equate to?

But anyway we will see the test of the evidence. If it can be substantiated through honest enquiry then it must be true and with out pride or prejudice. The evidence of the ancient places should speak for itself. All this has nothing to do Paganism but religion, you don't know what you talking about. You are doctrine biased and I think viewing this with real limitation.

Also I devote everyday to Bible study as if you haven't noticed and study in other books and post thoughts and verses to where feel have commonality.

 

Then you say this, accusing me of being heathen when I study and read the bible all the time and I am totally impressed with the bible more than ever before and how it parallels and connects my research and parallels with what we are seeing in the submerged places. Isaiah I feel is pointing to this point in timeline now. This is all about religion the whole lot of it. It has nothing to with ritual, creeds, Sunday church, collections, sermons, preachers, judging others and calling them heathens or set prayers...... just flat out research......Like a lizard flat out having a drink but sipping of the eternal springs of the tree of life as truth and understanding in finding the truth of the matter behind all that is proclaimed.

Just sifting using my whole mind and body with the Father in heaven and Jesus as my Guide.


 

How about follow the life and teachings of Jesus Christ and really get a glimpse of his message. Do you have the faith to explore things for yourself!

Also before Jesus came into the lives of the Apostles. All Apostles were influenced by the current thinking on all different levels of religious thought and ideas. Consider that. They all had notions of a deliver coming down establishing a kingdom physically on earth at the time and take over the place. Similar notions can be found in Mithraism beliefs, Zorostarism all about some end time similar constructs similiar to that in Revelation. They all have to similar constructs. Was John slightly influenced by earlier thoughts of endtime from earlier personal thoughts befoe Jesus as reflected in revelation.

Also there are some Mithra Ideas Like the Angles on the White Horse coming down from heaven, that can be found in Mithra belief, and like the Son, Mithra slaying the dragon and judgement day that is contained in that earlier mystery cult and through the absorption and channel of the RCC we find the same features in revelation.

 

I honour the Lord in the highest above all in this research its just we can use the scientific method in finding the evidence which verifies the path as mentioned in the Job and in four other places in the Bible as discovered.

The Ub is claimed to written in hands of Angels so we are simply testing the information in a worthy journey of faith. That's fair and reasonable and I would think most normal folk would appreciate that. For what its worth in the discovery and in the evidence.

as in

Dalamatia

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/overview.jpg

Babel in Dilmun

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel7.jpg

Well this knowledge comes from God. I know that for sure and my witness to the journey has been fantastic and enthralling to say the least and full of liberty and freedom to explore the threads as I see them upon the bidding of the Father in Heaven through his Holy Spirit.

 

It seems to be connected to the books, that are opened in the way of research and discovery. The judgment of mankind is a process of time which began perhaps upon discovery. In which I believe the 7 mystery is, in the books and connected to the ancient cities where there history is also contained in a new book. When the mystery is realized in all the books that are involved in the mystery. Then the mystery is finished and called in and judgment is concluded and is based on the standards of God within the books.

That what I see anyway. Take it or leave it!


All the best
sevens

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10626#10626

Hi

The following is from the above Hebron post.

 

I dont expect a reply, no worries but I was intruiged by the above verse.

The kingdom that comes the foundation of the world...how interesting!

Be interesting what people think about the verse and what it means in the way they see it!!

It seems that a people will be blessed by the Father with a kingdom that is connected to the foundation of the world. You cant blame me to think in light of my research that this verse refers to the discoveries of the foundations and the information related to it.

It seems to be somehow related to the Kingdom that is to to be inherited by people related to the foundation of the world.

Its interesting how this verse is in the middle of a judgment of mankind process.

I also found this verse interesting.

 

Its interesting how this process of judgment begins with the sounding of the last trumpet. Is the trumpet a message or declaration or something coming from the foundation or related to it?

Further to this line of enquiry I did a bit more digging regarding the foundations
 

I thought the above was fascinating. It seems to me that the message is sent out before hand which activated the last mystery/trumpet, He sent out arrows and lightning, like sent out the knowledge beforehand which discomforted people in there beliefs and ideas.

Somehow this message must be related to the foundations of the world that are discovered, after the messge shot forth beforehand.

The beforehand message and the discovery of the foundations is related to the rebuke of the lord. The message is a two edged sword.

As a consequence the believers and the ones with faith are taken away or translated the rest obviously, is left behind. This seems to happen after the discovery and after the rebuke of the lord that is connected to the discovery of the foundations of the world.

Note the plural in the verse foundations, not one foundation.

It seems the message or the trumpet divides people and sorts out the sheep and the goats because of its content and what its related to our very foundations. Its a discomforting message which strikes the heart of everyone's faith and belief system.

Here are some of the same verses in Pslams 18.

 

Interesting we can see the same grouping of verses relating to the foundations in both Psalms and in Samuel. Obviously these foundations of the world as discovered carried a very important message of rebuke from the Lord.

This message must be so important that the same verse grouping are mentioned twice in different sections of the Bible, Samuel and Psalms. The Psalms are older than Samuel so I wonder who saw this and documented this in the Psalms recovered during the Babylonian captivity.

 

There must be much importance of the ancient foundations of the world and its message.

and

 

and

 

and
 

food for thought!


sevens

sevens

Hi Petra

No hard feelings. But at the end of the day your response just leaves me flat.

There is no point going back and forth.

I know what I study and how I see the information and the journey that led to these places, its all in the open. I'm very satisfied with the results and people can make up there mind by the information as it happens.

If its not the will of the Father nothing will progress but if it is, things will move forward despite anyone's opinions and the results will speak for itself. Even if it takes years the evidence will vindicate the journey, if its not me in this test of the information and the evidence, it will be somebody else.

It just seems strange to people desiring to the will of the Father in the way they see things and yet they combat. It just seems like a poor witness at the end of the day for such a supernal adventure.

Anyway, lets see what happens in the results, that will verify many things for many people but I have no fear of the results and I know where its going.

Petra let me know the signs when judgment is about to occur, please.


sevens

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10752#10752

Hi Petra

I took your advise and checked out Matt 24

Boy that an interesting chapter. Which I think has many clues.

 

Absolutely we have seen that in religions of the past Jim Jones was a recent example.

The Good thing about what I propose is that.... lets put everything on the table. Lets look at all the books and lets see what they say about these proposed locations and find out what lays there in the physical.

There appears to be anomalies that reflect the description of these areas so I say lets find out and because there are clues that reflect artifact s like the Seven commands...I say lets find out. Lets see what evidence lays there based on the evidence found in all the books of religion.

I don't see anything deceptive in that. All I'm saying is lets have a look and find out the "truth of the matter" Lets test out all the information mankind has and lets how accurate it is.

I found the following quite interesting.

 

"this gospel of the kingdom" I would presume this is the Gospel of the "kingdom of heaven" and a witness to all the nations. I sometimes wonder if this could be related to the foundations of our ancient origins and this gospel of the expanded kingdom of heaven is related to it. Then perhaps for "a witness unto all nations" Could be a major discovery of our origins which would suffice as a witness unto all nations. The witness being like the discovery and the reading out of the Seven commands not to mention the supporting evidence found in all the books of religion. Something like I could see as "a witness unto all nations". A undeniable witness, a mjor discovery of ancient cities and early writing. Then this undeniable witness is attached to the "and then shall the end come." I feel the end reflects change of knowledge, realisation, confirmation and verification of the facts through discovery.

A conclusion of the facts of the matter.

reflections of rapture
 

However when this realisation occurs, the end shall happen and it will be like in the days of Noah. When people took no notice of the beforehand witness, then the flood came and people knocked on the door but it was shut. It could be possible in this scenario where people take no notice and under estimate the ancient places and ignore the attached message. When suddenly it occurs, a realisation, a change occurs and people are left comfounded and fearful as the result of change in light of there beforehand denial. Who knows maybe a judgement occurs in addition to the change of knowledge. Could it be that the rapture moment as debated where the ones who prepared themselves are taken up or translated leaving the rest. They will knock on the door and no one answers.

But then in the judgement process of some rapture occurs but an unknown period of time. A translation occurs as one ascends the sky. An asencion in a sense.

 

I think its in the attitude towards these places. Mind you these places are the ancient cities of our origins where the tree of life was kept. They were really holy places in a sense and they each had a temple that housed the tree of life. Dalamatia and 1stEden are really Holy places. Just think how these places could be defiled through the denial of truth or through usurping the truth for ones own gain.

Here is some advise in watching out for the signs. Being on watch.

 

But then on the other hand

 

About the signs

 

"His Branch" His expanded new truth is his branch that is tender shooting forth expanded truth through a discovery. This could be a sign, this whole experience. I believe his Branch is the unknown church shooting forth a message coupled with a demonstration. The message that comes from his branch, the leaves is the message. The doors are the foundations and the discovery of them. The truth. The message or the leaves leads to the doors, the foundations. That is the object! of the last mystery.

I can help think "even at the doors" doors or what Like an event that can be witnessed the doors of an ancient location where the Seven commands are found. Could this be the literal meaning?

Concerning these places I wouldn't completely under estimate the possibilities of change. I feel the scenario of the places and the test of everything in order to find out the fact of the matter is ripe. I feel it matches all the conditions as outlined in the bible and other books.

 

The scenario and the potential seem right but has to be tested! Like I say its about religion this scenario and its about the Father in Heaven and the scriptures and related to discovery through the books and through technology. I believe that is a major connection for religion and our history.

However to be fair

 

Well this scenario is possible to. In the test of everything we have to test this verse to in relation to this research. I know my sincerity and honesty in researching the scriptures. However, I to am saying over here and the secret chambers. Its a worthy point of self examination to.

All I can say is that we have to see, we have to test everything in the physical and see what can be recovered! I couldnt be satisified with less. I will have to see if the above quote is relevant to my circumstance. We have to see.

I think most people would think the same to.

 

I see this as the change of knowledge which effects all religion, The Sun and the Moon in my mind reflects the religions who have there origins in earlier evolutionary religions of the Sun and the moon or are akin to these religions. Then the "the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" The major change in the Heavenly administration.

"after the tribulation of those days" I see those days as in these days today. What we see today is will be called those days, the past. Everything seems to change or be affected by change and endorsement.

 

The tribes mourn because its the realisation and perhaps the failure to see beforehand.

 

This appears to include everything, all knowledge will be refined which does include religion and history through what I believe is discovery and the book.

I enjoyed reading Matt 24 . If there were anymore you could suggest that would be great.

 

Like the lord comes from "out of his place" everything is revealed in discovery, the origins and it originates from the lords place, I think the ancient places of our origins and is considered by the Father.

 

I wonder if the above relates to the ancient places.

 

and in the same context

 

and

 

and
 

and

 

Here is a classic. I think this points to the ancient locations.

 

Colossians 1:26

 

the key to the mystery

 

Like in a test of everything.

thanks

sevens

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject:

Hi

Here are more clues

 

Again I refer Sun and Moon symbolic of religions of the past who used the Sun and Moon as symbols. The religions will change and is again reflected in the above quote, the same as in Matthew who reflects the same Sun and Moon. Again there is confoundment amoungst the people, shock and surprise!! I believe its all to do with the Ancient foundations and what it represents.

 

.

All by appointment and setting it forth for the Father and it involves declaration and prophecy of oncoming change. It appears to be shown to us.


Again imploring us to put on the yoke of the Ancient of Days and connection to the ancient places and its distant generations.

 

sevens

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject:

How do you explain the edit of all there texts whilst the Jews were in captivity. After captivity they came back with the OT compile of many papers of many authors written over the timeline of 6000 years starting from Job which is the oldest book. Also the Psalms where discovered by the Jews written on tablets by the (Babylonian) Salem priests beforehand in addition the name Melchizedek was also edited and disguised as that was a holy name and it was thought disrespect to mention the name of God and so the name was substituted by other names like the most high, the almighty, etc. This practice was stopped by the last teacher of righteousness of the Essenes as he mentions directly Melchizedeks name in the Dead sea Scrolls in relation to the end times.

Also the Noahs story which was a local event of Mesopotamia but expanded the flood to cover the whole world whilst the Jews edited there truth in captivity. There was never a worldwide flood that wiped everyone except one family, it did not happen and is scientifically impossible. Whilst there is much truth contained in the bible man has edited it and altered it in his past to suit himself in some cases.

I suppose its no different in using the scriptures against people in personal attacks of there faith, and then claiming things that was unknowingly altered in the past to suit one doctrine of the time and then oppressing others and pointing the fingers on a personal level, in today's time using scriptures. No different to the dark ages mentality and the reason for the great disaster of the Crusades which we still suffer from today. Narrow-mindedness and failure to be objective.

Also I'm suspect that much was added in Rev by all concerned parties in the time 100AD-300AD I do see reflections within also in other mystery cults like Mithra which was a contemporary of Christianity but then eventually absorbed into the church. You can see reflections of this religion in the Catholic church tradition which I find quite understandable and do have the same object symbolism used in Rev.

I know Petra you will deny this with counter accusation but how about you show evidence in this case to prove your case and don't say I don't need to.

But anyway I was taught from Christians that the Bible was edited in captivity and that was from a bible college. So the bible has been worked over by man like every other religious text in the world.


Actually, I think you're rude with your accusations with just opinions. You don't read the posts that have 100% bible sources at all. You don't comment on that all because you cant. So if you cant succeed in your endeavours in one way you try another route for mischief. Because that's all your being mischievous in your endeavours to spoil good endeavours of research that have results and can be demonstrated in the bible which only furthers the investigation of the facts of the matter.

No matter what you accuse other people off, all these posts are of public record and people can make up there own mind within there boundaries of understanding.

I understand this information is contentious and that's why I try and demonstrate as much as possible connectivity through the all the scripts. I'm concentrating on the ancient places and words written about it. However you use the scripts to attack another's contention of his truth that is related to the same theme of the forum.

Is that in the spirit of Jesus Christ and his thoughts upon tolerance for one another that may seem different. Did he hold back the 70 ....no.

Cant you see that what is displayed here is no different we see in the middle east, man against man, division and more division through different religious ideas and intolerance.

How do you not know that by your display that you don't run the line of error yourself remembering the Father is concerned about the attitude towards your fellow brother not the content of his belief. Jesus was also concerned about the attitude and the motivation of men rather than the microscopic detail which he knew varied.

Like in his day you had the Essenes, the Baptists, the Judaic system and yet Jesus was attractive to different people from all these differing religious groups with ideas. Because of the way he presented himself and the relevant content he shared with all these different people that touched them. He displayed Tolerance! with understanding and moderation like he does with us today in our ideas.

You should have a go at that.

Nevertheless, have you got any other Bible chapters you think I should read that might be relevant to the endtime case?




sevens
 

Hoi

Gee contend with what! What are you some religious heavy weight bully or something! Nothing that I'm impressed with at all, nothing of a witness that would attract anyone new to the faith. Particularly for the normal unsuspecting person on the street.

Its really more of the same ole stuff!

Nothing that attracts me just more of the same judgment upon others.

You're right off the mark and ignorant of the facts.

Lets have a look of you're own research.

You haven't even answered anything!

Just continual avoidance of any direct question. Countered with scriptural attack.

There 2 bible colleges that teach the same thing that you deny. So who is right you!!! and there wrong! Eh! Where did you get your teaching from?? Then on top of it you judge these people who teach Christianity as well!!

I mean give me a break will ya! Who are you to judge these goodly people who sacrifice there time to help others with knowledge and heres high ho silver, you and all your self righteousness in judgment.

I don't even bother much reading your posts anyway I think there pretty ugly! doesn't do anything for nor edify anyone.

If the test of everything is successfull a normal person on the street could make the connection rather easily and it directs him straight to the religion of Jesus and which leads him straight to bible as well. Its because all the books contains knowledge about these places.

I think that is good and a fine witness for a path that leads to Jesus regardless of religious institution and it doesn't take his faith away!

Wow,  Im only putting up research and what I think drawing on a wide field of past writings that mainly originates before Christ and some new information like the UB and through the poetry of others.


I really think you have made your point, that's ok because everyone is entitled to it. I don't think it serves any purpose for this topic to descend in this kind of thing. I would move on and ignore this since you don't agree with it. Plus I don't want to go around this merry go round as I want to post some more Bible research into the facts of the matter. Like Colter might be interested as this may confirm some of his study and I myself may learn from him.

Its a small topic it might be a pain for some but there could be a solid truth in this for others.

Is that the real worry?? Well let me say to you there is no way that this progression will stop because the chickens are out of the cage and the truth is all over the world perpetuating everyday, day by day people are starting to lock on to the target and embracing the vastness of this and your attitude will be a minority.

There are no secrets in this project and in your face like everybody else. The truth is out there and you cant stop it except the Father himself. Tough! That's why everything is released on the run so the truth of the facts of the matter of the journey to the places is out there so it cant be usurped, twisted or suppressed, like what you would propose in the old (those) days attitude!

I want to move on in the research rather than argue over religious opinions.




sevens


 

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,282.0.html

Hi my name is Sevens

Im new here and I think this forum is quite diverse, im glad there is a Urantia Book section.

Ive been studying the UB for a while and since I first read it has continued to amaze me. The areas of the UB that interest me are the ancient places in the UB like 1st Eden, Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel. In 2003 I started a search for Eden in the books of religion like the Bible, The Book of Enoch, the Book of Adam and Eve and many writings. I am Also interested in the Atlantis story and its reflections of Eden of Cyprus.

In many of the books I searched through I could see reflections of Eden and upon discovery I would release it on http://www.dalamatiacity.com , as it happened. However it was only 2 years ago that I started releasing this on the net on the run.

In the following is a repost of information that relates to Dalamatia

In the following is a release of discovery working with the Urantia Book, the Bible and Sumerian texts.

The following picture is the foundations of the lost city of Dalamatia discovered submerged in the Northern Persian Gulf between close to Iraq and Iran.

The information that led me to this ancient place was primarily the Urantia Book and the Bible. I feel the Bible has reflections to these ancient places with there description of the nephilim and Nod. Nod or the Nodites come from Dilmun which they built. The Tower of Babel which was there shrine and was located in Dilmun itself. The myths of Dilmun are all about the first home of the Gods which came from Dalamatia.

NASA Worldwind software was used.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/overview_600.jpg

Here is another image
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/dalamatia.jpg

More pictures and information can be found in the following link.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/index.html

The references I used that led me to the place on September 16-17th around 12.00 midnight.

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=dalamatia&submit=Submit
 

UB "Persian" word search
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=persian&submit=Submit

 

in the following is the thread that led me to search for Dalamatia. I was debating with someone about Malta when I read the Latitude 28 and realised that could be reference to Dalamatia, following the hunch I searched for it in the Persian Gulf. At first I began at Bahrain and found nothing then I had a feeling to look north which I did and discovered it.

 

Here some pictures on Lixus in Morocco, the outpost of the very early Andite influence. It could give clues to the Early Andite expansion in Morocco. The stone work seems to be similar to the stone work of the Andites. Even though the Romans reshaped the early ruins for there own purposes.

Know this culture also spread into Europe to Spain, Switzerland and Italy and is evident in the region of the circles.

These are the clues.

The first King of Atlantis was Urania, Sounds very close the Uran, Urantia, Ur. Again from the east moving west. Note the religion of the circle spread throughout all of Europe, You could say it was revival was akin to sun and moon worship.

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Archeology.html



Here is another view of the ancient Andite Blocks like in Baalbek

 

The Cyclopean Wall at Lixus on the River Lucus, near Larache in Spanish Morocco. [/list]
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/129cyclopean.html



and another mark of the Andites.




Here is a little something stumbled across, I wonder if its a clue to Dalamantia looking at the latitude (this was the point realisation to look for Dalamatia)

 

INDIA’S ATLANTIS:

In Hindu legends an island of gods was destroyed during a war between the gods and the Asuras (giant people). Which is very similar to the greek myth of the gods Vs the Titans.

 

Vishnu Purana (2000 B.C.), a sanskrit text, speaks of Atala, the "White Island," which speaks of its geographically location, which when translated is roughly 24-28 degrees North latitude. There is no longitude translation.

Mahabharata tells of a horrendous war that sunk Atala. It is also called the White Island in this text. It describes it as an "island of great splendour" in the western ocean. It is also describes Tipura, a circular shaped capital city, which was destroyed by being “burnt until it sank into the ocean”. [/list][/list]

The Latitude seems to fall in the Bahrain area.

Another piece of the puzzle and the Persian Gulf is the Sea to the West.

Anyway I hope you find it interesting and I hope the above gives you an insight of how the fragments threads of truth can lead you the most wonderous places.

 

In the following is an earlier interpretation of 1stEden but could apply to these places in extension.

 

and

 

and

 

and

 

Thats right the truth(water) revealed through the Hidden places, the foundations will change everything and sweep away error, all error.

The "Ark of his Testament" could be a tablet containing the 7 commandments or a tablet containing one of the seven commandments discovered on one of these sites.


"the test of everything"

Well I hope that was interesting. Always remember that this research is on the run and does evolve.

If your interested in a lively debate about the places on a End time Christian forum be my guest.

Personally I know there is a pathway to this faith and its obvious but you would be surprised of what some say. I must admit I myself can be corrected to! But check it out, its interesting.

http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9476#9476]

As you will see I declared a test of Everything concerning the verification of these places. Its is interesting the response!


the best everyone
sevens

Hi Colter

I thought the article you posted was very interesting.

I was also impressed by your following verse.

 

How true is that. Sums it up to a tee!

"and no one shall make him afraid" Not using fear as a tool and showing respect and tolerance for others in there views drawing from there own understanding of God. A vine reminds me a book or sources of knowledge.

How true! I thought that verse is a classic!

Here is another I found on understanding

 

here is another curious from Daniel.

 

I wonder what the thing is of great understanding, using the word thing is interesting, they don't reveal what the thing is. Is it an object of great wisdom??? that perhaps changes things? or is the thing the Holy Spirit that was to come into the future?

The next one is interesting expressing that some of/with understanding shall fall, perhaps there understanding is wrong and in error when they purge and persecute others with there faulty understanding, sounds like the witch hunts of the dark ages and the wars created in the name of religion in the past and for ultimately self purposes. Seems no different in today's timeline.

 

Daniels seem to be looking into the far future right up to the end. Perhaps, maybe

then you have this

 

This seems to be a broad message from the Holy Spirit through Mark expressing that love for one another is the heighest thing for man to do regardless of differences. This means tolerance and understanding!

A broad message for all mankind.

 

Well how true is that!

Ive been looking into the Seventh Month in the Bible. I have found the search interesting.

Here is a few verses from Haggai

 

I thought the above was interesting and I felt it had many clues to perhaps this time. For me it makes sense. If you do a search on the Seventh month in the Bible I feel you will find many clues that are in type for the final judgment of mankind. Perhaps maybe!

and

 

and the same chapter

 

In Revelations it speaks of the darkening of the Moon and the sun turning red, I always felt this could be the demise during judgment of the past religions that used the Sun and Moon as Icons in symbolism. Here in the following is verse that seem to connect the Sun worshipped toward the east, another religion. Again the Sun will turn to blood in Rev, could that mean major changes that occur during judgment that completely make these earlier religions obsolete?? Like their shining becomes darkened and virtually diminished!.

 

and finally a little metaphor of the end times and situations in our daily lives.

Note: "Look unto the rock whence ye are hewn" LThis could be seen relating to our origins, and then"and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged" reference to hidden place that must searched for like in a submerged place found by an expedition or water excavation. However one must first "ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the Lord"

Again we see reference to the wasted places "will comfort all her waste places" meaning to find resolve, correction and exapnsion at the same time connected to the waste places. As result and great blessing occurs during the correction and the captives are set free through the discovery of truth in completion where the "her wilderness like Eden" and and "her desert like the garden of the Lord" where everyone will enjoy "gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody". Absolutely I can relate to that!


 

sevens

No worries Nikas

Where abouts near Tunisia, the reason I ask is that I know there is reference to the early Andites many thousands of years before the Cathagians where they had apparently a civilisation and apprently it was built near Carthage. I believe these could be the same Andites that where in Malta as well with the circle religion. Perhaps this could be the Andites originaly from Submerged Dilmun who brought there culture with them and bult a new city. Perhaps described in your NASA picture.

The original City of Dilmun was last to rising sea levels about 10,000 around in the Persian Gulf.

Perhaps the Atlantis story the Egyptian priest had went down about 12,000 years ago.

If the image is all well and good then its an intruiging find and should be explored thoroughly. It could fill the gaps.

I just wonder about the Andite city near Tunisia that could of been there to build such a city.

I wonder if what this piece is talking about is actually submerged underwater?

Here is the fragment Ive been trying to piece

 

quote:

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Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near the later site of Carthage. And from north Africa large numbers of Andites entered Spain and later mingled in Switzerland with their brethren who had earlier come to Italy from the Aegean Islands

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web page

Interesting find Nikas I think worthwhile persuing. It could fill some gaps and create others.

But then the above fragment only pertains to 7000 years ago. However the Andites out of Dilmun have being migrating east to west for thoudands of years at various times throughout human history.

But around 14,000 years ago this was happening

 

quote:

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About 12,000 B.C. a brilliant tribe of Andites migrated to Crete. This was the only island settled so early by such a superior group, and it was almost two thousand years before the descendants of these mariners spread to the neighboring isles.

This group were the narrow-headed, smaller-statured Andites who had intermarried with the Vanite division of the northern Nodites.

They were all under six feet in height and had been literally driven off the mainland by their larger and inferior fellows.

These emigrants to Crete were highly skilled in textiles, metals, pottery, plumbing, and the use of stone for building material. They engaged in writing and carried on as herders and agriculturists

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Its interesting, maybe the 14,000 year Andites where the original inhabitants of Malta and who also had a close by submerged commercial city!!

Perhaps an Andite circular city inhabited by Andite people.

Seem like a few clues

http://www.superatlantis.com/id26.html

sevens

[ 02-19-2007, 05:25 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

No worries Nikas

Where abouts near Tunisia, the reason I ask is that I know there is reference to the early Andites many thousands of years before the Cathagians where they had apparently a civilisation and apprently it was built near Carthage. I believe these could be the same Andites that where in Malta as well with the circle religion. Perhaps this could be the Andites originaly from Submerged Dilmun who brought there culture with them and bult a new city. Perhaps described in your NASA picture.

The original City of Dilmun was last to rising sea levels about 10,000 around in the Persian Gulf.

Perhaps the Atlantis story the Egyptian priest had went down about 12,000 years ago.

If the image is all well and good then its an intruiging find and should be explored thoroughly. It could fill the gaps.

I just wonder about the Andite city near Tunisia that could of been there to build such a city.

I wonder if what this piece is talking about is actually submerged underwater?

Here is the fragment Ive been trying to piece

 

quote:

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Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near the later site of Carthage. And from north Africa large numbers of Andites entered Spain and later mingled in Switzerland with their brethren who had earlier come to Italy from the Aegean Islands

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web page

Interesting find Nikas I think worthwhile persuing. It could fill some gaps and create others.

But then the above fragment only pertains to 7000 years ago. However the Andites out of Dilmun have being migrating east to west for thoudands of years at various times throughout human history.

But around 14,000 years ago this was happening

 

quote:

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About 12,000 B.C. a brilliant tribe of Andites migrated to Crete. This was the only island settled so early by such a superior group, and it was almost two thousand years before the descendants of these mariners spread to the neighboring isles.

This group were the narrow-headed, smaller-statured Andites who had intermarried with the Vanite division of the northern Nodites.

They were all under six feet in height and had been literally driven off the mainland by their larger and inferior fellows.

These emigrants to Crete were highly skilled in textiles, metals, pottery, plumbing, and the use of stone for building material. They engaged in writing and carried on as herders and agriculturists

---

Its interesting, maybe the 14,000 year Andites where the original inhabitants of Malta and who also had a close by submerged commercial city!!

Perhaps an Andite circular city inhabited by Andite people.

Seem like a few clues

Actually Nikas I just read the above post by Georgeous and you will have to pass his requirements to have credibility.

I must say I passed Georgeous standard to the best I could in as I print screened worldwind, added a few comments of what I thought and then save in jpg, no filters or layers. Just raw material that was copied notified people where I found so they could see for themselves.

Youll have to show that honesty and willingness to share it to get the confidence of others.

Its like in my enquiry I show you where Im coming from and ask in filling the gaps about your picture and to find its a fake would be just an insult to all of us, im sure.

I hope the pic is true! It would be good if its true and well intentioned.

yeah man! or else your ass is Atlantis grass in relation to your credibility. I hope your true.

sevens

[ 02-19-2007, 05:35 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject:

Oh Ok

III have to download a high resolution of world wind.

I have to look around, if you could provide a coordinates that would be great.

Least we can an idea.

Nikas if that is a carving on the shoreline in Tunisia there must more information of an early settlement around there.

These could very well the ruins that an Italian team discovered perhaps but I never heard anything more about it.

If you snap shot some more images to give us an idea that's great! Like a further distance away with arrows to landmarks that are close by that would be good to.

sevens

[ 02-19-2007, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1411#1411

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject:   Hi Honestoverture

It sure would be something else. I'm sure that all the scriptures and other writing from different cultures are some how are coming together in a unity.

Where the fragment that contained relevant to these places are coming together as we get further to the truth of the matter.

I personally believe its a huge puzzle coming to a completion which I feel has the potential to change everything concerning our history, knowledge, science and religions. I believe this is somehow linked to the final great mystery and may possibly represent change for the planet. The journey is very vast and very beautiful.

I'm glad you came to this forum and shared your ideas, coming from the Toth prospective is another pathway to the ancient places. Regardless what the truth of Toth is I can certainly recognise markers in the translation and a strong sense of commonality with the UB except for the rituals and procedures. However its intriguing and has similar overviews as with the UB. I feel there are connections and parallels. There are many commonalities in this whole thing that encompasses the ancient places of our origins and it was all seen beforehand.

All the best
sevens

quote:

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Are u my fan, becase Seven is one of them, he just can't admit it....ahahaha

seven you use to be the nr#1 fan of Sarmast, what happened?

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Hey Nikas, I support Sarmast in his theory absolutely and also he has confirmed the UB info about the stone wall and he still has to explore the Acropolis Hill and the Quarry to the North with a core sample.

Why should I drop support for him. Also his discoveries are directly related to my discoveries in the Persian Gulf and part of the great mystery.

Because we were persistent and had the right attitude in our own direction we were both blessed with and led to the ancient cities and locations. Eden, Dalamatia, Dlimun and Babel however an expedition is required to Persian Gulf locations!

You still have to show more and like where in relation to the pics. This is not a matter of popularity or ego its all to do with discovery or to making a ego point to Qoasis because of my interest and trying to capatilise on it.

Also its not a city just carvings as you say.

It looks interesting so Im interested.

I contacted Qoasis because I thought she should be interested in this. This is not a matter of games or a popularity contest or follow the so called leader thing agenda.

I'm very satisfied with my personal discoveries but I thought you may have come across something worthwhile exploring, you still have to prove things.

You're still in the world of non glory and until it can be verified then I suppose you have self glory. What you desire! I wonder if the Gods will bless you? It depends on your attitude towards the ancient places and the first source.

Anyway all the best with the carvings or whatever they are. You still have to verify.

You know Nikas, I believe these locations are attached to a major change of the planet in religion and science. Everything is being tested at the moment. Attitude and motivation is the prime thing that will be observed. All the discoveries have nothing to do with power or influence of others but to bring about the Brotherhood of mankind and Fatherhood of God.

Self vain gloriousness attitude will really be something of the past as in "those days" and actually looks ugly spiritually it will be an attitude of the past. Just don't turn good intentions into ugliness by leveraging on them for personal ego use. Pride is the destroyer of man, he always falls when filled with pride!

sevens

[ 02-20-2007, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hey Qoasis

Good to here for you . I suppose we shall see with Nikas pics.

To be honest my views have changed about the Atlantis Story and where it originated from.

I thinking the Story has imbeds of the Dilmun story that would of submerged around 10,000 years ago or more.

Its just my thoughts.

I feel the story is has a mix of Eden of Cyprus with respect to the Hill and the submerged landmass and the politics, the circles from Dilmun and perpetuated when it sunk with the Andite spread throughout the Med and Europe.

Another consideration is the 3 concentric circles of Melchizedek who was revered by the Pharaoh at that time 4000 years ago. Could they of made there way into the story some how. There is no way to prove it except through circumstantial evidence in the reflections we see.

Also I feel the rings of Bashan could be a clue apparently they are 5000 years old even before Melchizedek.

I feel the art of the Egyptians originally came from Dilmun and from earlier Andites with memories of Dilmun and Dalamatia which was also a city of the Gods. I also think the Egyptian religion is a reflection of Dilmun and source reflections of Dalamatia by the use of the word Dilmat (the UB) as the name of the home of the Gods where the celestial foods were kept in there estates (the maat from Book of the Dead). The Ub directly links Egyptian to Dalamatia through Dilmat I think that is significant.

I think the marker is the use of the circle in the Egyptian art which may of came from Babel in Dilmun being a circular temple and a mix from glory reflections from Dalamatia.

Just some thoughts

sevens

Ya never know tho!

How true Qoasis

The exploration of these places need funds. With the billions of dollars around you would think someone would be inspired to search these places even for funs sake.

With what I see on the NASA images. I can see the 10 divisions and the wall and to the east are the walls of Dilmun and the circular foundations of Babel in Dilmun.

The only thing I want to find are the Seven commands inscribed on Stone slabs that should be still there according to the UB clues pointing to Dalamatia. That should clear up any confusion to the Location. The Seven Commands inscribed on stone slabs. This is what I propose for these places, the test of everything where all our knowledge is put on the table.

No crap, we read and we see and hopefully discover.

If successfull that should change world history, science and religion. A change that came from the words of the Fathers Way. How symbolic is that of the Universal Father!! and his entry into the scenario directly with the first commands. Isn't that a real witness of universal government bring us back to the basics of living through the worldwide proclamation of the 7 Seven commands through a presentation that is presented worldwide. Simultaneously!! What riveting effect that would have on the spiritual level of the planet through realisation in discovery and truth!


I read, I see

all the best
sevens

[ 02-20-2007, 04:11 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject:

Hi Colter

I enjoyed all the connections you made. I thought that was fantastic research about the angels and your research on the Sumerian influence with reagrds to Angels. I thought your pics were great. Here is a few verses I found in Psalms.

 

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sounds like point of departure!

I thought some of those verses where outstanding and knowing the UB/R understanding of the angels really makes a completion for me.

I enjoyed the post Colter for sure. I learnt alot from them.

I hope you find blessing in the above quotes. for sure!

and lastly

 

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=sevenfold+scheme&submit=Submit


I believe the operations to the ancient places 1stEden, Dalamatia, Dilmun and the foundations of Babel are all part of the operations of the Sevenfold Scheme. The Sevenfold is also a marker of the ancients of Days that is strewn in all our history. It goes so far back in the early religions of both Mesopotamia, The Greeks (Javan pre Greeks) and Sumerian, the Book of Enoch and in many books of different cultures.

Thanks Colter that was very edifying and I had a great laugh about your comment on the picture. That was a great laugh. Again they seem like everyday regular nice people.

You know there is just so much commonality in the above posts. Its just great stuff to see everyone contributing there piece of research. Stone upon stone and rock upon rock.

That's whats happening here. I just pray and have faith that this maybe the circuit breaker in Iran that may bring an enlightenment in the area and sue for peace and dis-arment. Really be an eye opener! Well all I can do is have faith. I know the mountains are huge with what we see occurring over there, one could be discouraged. But you never know how the perception of this could arouse curiosity and stimulate a desire the seek for truth as an alternative.

If the Seven commands where found, deciphered and broadcast, that would be something else. The Father enters the ring personally!!!! That would an official sign I would say if that was to occur. That would be an official Paradise proclamation but for it to occur things have to be done!!

The have to be done is the expedition and discover the cities and the seven commands. "The test of all things"

Anyway some people think that I'm mad by releasing this. Well I'm mad and the reason I do this because I believe its a living mystery contained in the books that is bidding us to the discovery of its pearls as it released on the run more information is discovered and released as people become involved in the research and part take like Colter it build on the journey to the ancient places following the timeline and I believe messages contained in prophecy and proclamation. I think the Bible has much of the mystery as I have demonstrated in my shor time here and does compliment the UR in filling the Gaps but taking nothing away. Combine all the books of all religions and the fragments pertaining to the grea

Hi Colter

I enjoyed all the connections you made. I thought that was fantastic research about the angels and your research on the Sumerian influence with reagrds to Angels. I thought your pics were great. Here is a few verses I found in Psalms.

 

.

 

.


 

sounds like point of departure!

I thought some of those verses where outstanding and knowing the UB/R understanding of the angels really makes a completion for me.

I enjoyed the post Colter for sure. I learnt alot from them.

I hope you find blessing in the above quotes. for sure!

and lastly

 

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=sevenfold+scheme&submit=Submit


I believe the operations to the ancient places 1stEden, Dalamatia, Dilmun and the foundations of Babel are all part of the operations of the Sevenfold Scheme. The Sevenfold is also a marker of the ancients of Days that is strewn in all our history. It goes so far back in the early religions of both Mesopotamia, The Greeks (Javan pre Greeks) and Sumerian, the Book of Enoch and in many books of different cultures.

Thanks Colter that was very edifying and I had a great laugh about your comment on the picture. That was a great laugh. Again they seem like everyday regular nice people.

You know there is just so much commonality in the above posts. Its just great stuff to see everyone contributing there piece of research. Stone upon stone and rock upon rock.

That's what's happening here. I just pray and have faith that this maybe the circuit breaker in Iran that may bring an enlightenment in the area and sue for peace and dis-arment. Really be an eye opener! Well all I can do is have faith. I know the mountains are huge with what we see occurring over there, one could be discouraged. But you never know how the perception of this could arouse curiosity and stimulate a desire the seek for truth as an alternative.

If the Seven commands where found, deciphered and broadcast, that would be something else. The Father enters the ring personally!!!! That would an official sign I would say if that was to occur. That would be an official Paradise proclamation but for it to occur things have to be done!!

The have to be done is the expedition and discover the cities and the seven commands. "The test of all things"

Anyway some people think that I'm mad by releasing this. Well I'm mad and the reason I do this because I believe its a living mystery contained in the books that is bidding us to the discovery of its pearls as it released on the run more information is discovered and released as people become involved in the research and part take like Colter it build on the journey to the ancient places following the timeline and I believe messages contained prophecy and proclamation. I think the Bible has much of the mystery as I have demonstrated in my short time here and does compliment the UR in filling the Gaps but taking nothing away. Combine all the books of all religions and the fragments pertaining to the great mystery and you have a colossal picture with a timeline and focalization on the wasted places of former glory where some change or judgment occurs. Perhaps a correction of some sort.

This journey on all various forums forms part of the journey to the places based on faith, books, guidance of the Father. If this manifests and occurs this could change allot of things that would warrant investigation and a review of all the books of religion in a greater understanding that expands our religion and history.

I'm afraid by releasing this journey nothing much will change in the world, everyone will still have there ideas upon things...business as usual. I'm afraid its up to the Father to make that final impression. If the Seven commands are discovered that could be a major seal. An entry point that comes from our origins. A voice from the past, A gateway and entry point of the Father in the fight for mankind.

Believe me this is no funny business, its a real true story and its unfolding as we get closer to the ancient places and we discover more.

History coming back at us with the Fathers Way Wow in light of what's happening today the Fathers way could be the 3rd alternative. From the heavenly government of the Paradise Trinity and the Ancients of Days.

So you have this scenario

Christian in conflict with Islam vice versa

Then Paradise Trinity, Ancients of Days comes into light.

That would turn everything upside down!

AHHH its a thought, just thoughts and speculations. See what happens! But so far I haven't been disappointed, not at all.


All the best
sevens

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001731&p=3#000086

Hey Ideo

Thanks bro, Ive been on this endtime forum forum and posting much. Been discovering heaps of stuff about the foundations of the wasted places. Really cool stuff. I think all the pieces of the puzzle is coming together into a climax! perhaps.

I'm not disappointed at all but rather intrigued and quite excited. Its all in the Bible to in fragmentary sense. It really points to these ancient places and mystery is surrounded that leads to change.

Thanks for your encouragement! bro and great discoveries in your rocks. Amazing you looking for the rocks and I'm looking for the 7 commands inscribed on stone slabs. Synchronicity!

all the best
sevens

Nikas, you never proved a thing on Discovery of Atlantis. Google earth Bathy is vastly different to NASA. You need better data...like an expedition. By the way weren't you trying to solicit money on the forum, thats why you got banned.

You show no evidence that some one could touch. You havent found a thing. Except for images and we only have one.

By the way where is your link, you know the public NASA link, where is it! The more time elapses the worse it gets for you! Stop stalling with more your crazy spin.

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I can I take you serious when you were bragging about Sarmast wall and now you don’t talk about it anymore

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Thats becuase Im busy with the other locations discovered Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel in Dilmun and it takes up much time in the research. Everything that I have said about Sarmasts project I feel comfortable with. I think its all part of prophecy

I dont waver from that becuase you can read about the stone wall in the UB and you can see it in the position that Robert Sarmast predicted with a book beforehand. Sure its not man made, thats ok But its still a stone wall and its straight and its there.

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They became enraged at their inability to benefit from the tree of life, and in connection with one of their internal wars, the temple and the tree were both destroyed by fire; only the stone wall stood until the Garden was subsequently submerged. This was the second temple of the Father to perish.

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Verified by Robert Sarmast.

He was lead in his own way but in the same principle as I was led to the ancient submerged places in the Persian Gulf. Thats where my study is.

Also the project is not over because there is a clue that points to the Acropolis Hill where it was enlarged, that means to me "manmade" there may be some evidence on the top of the hill and at the base and there is some images that look cicular and unnatural at the base ond on top The images in the members section of Discovery of Atlantis website in the Captn Bates hypothesis.

Plus there is the quarry location in the shape of a square where half is washed away. But there is a terraced hillside and a quarry area at the base of the unusual feature.

Here is the clue

 

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Soon after their awakening, Adam and Eve were escorted to the formal reception on the great mound to the north of the temple. This natural hill had been enlarged and made ready for the installation of the world's new rulers. Here, at noon, the Urantia reception committee welcomed this Son and Daughter of the system of Satania. Amadon was chairman of this committee, which consisted

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Now this enlarged Hill could be the Acropolis Hill of Cyprus or the the half sqaure location to the North by kilometers across the N

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I can I take you serious when you were bragging about Sarmast wall and now you don’t talk about it anymore

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Thats becuase Im busy with the other locations discovered Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel in Dilmun and it takes up much time in the research. Everything that I have said about Sarmasts project I feel comfortable with. I think its all part of prophecy

I dont waver from that becuase you can read about the stone wall in the UB and you can see it in the position that Robert Sarmast predicted with a book beforehand. Sure its not man made, thats ok But its still a stone wall and its straight and its there.

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They became enraged at their inability to benefit from the tree of life, and in connection with one of their internal wars, the temple and the tree were both destroyed by fire; only the stone wall stood until the Garden was subsequently submerged. This was the second temple of the Father to perish.

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Verified by Robert Sarmast.

He was lead in his own way but in the same principle as I was led to the ancient submerged places in the Persian Gulf. Thats where my study is.

Also the project is not over because there is a clue that points to the Acropolis Hill where it was enlarged, that means to me "manmade" there may be some evidence on the top of the hill and at the base and there is some images that look cicular and unnatural at the base ond on top The images in the members section of Discovery of Atlantis website in the Captn Bates hypothesis.

Plus there is the quarry location in the shape of a square where half is washed away. But there is a terraced hillside and a quarry area at the base of the unusual feature.

Here is the clue

 

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Soon after their awakening, Adam and Eve were escorted to the formal reception on the great mound to the north of the temple. This natural hill had been enlarged and made ready for the installation of the world's new rulers. Here, at noon, the Urantia reception committee welcomed this Son and Daughter of the system of Satania. Amadon was chairman of this committee, which consisted

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Now this enlarged Hill could be the Acropolis Hill of Cyprus or the the half sqaure location to the North by kilometers across the Northern side of the Acropolis.

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So that's the clue Nikas. Its not over in any way stretch even though you hope, im sure.

Even if it takes the ancient other places to support 1stEden it will. All these places are connected and do uphold each other and from my studies in the all the books of religion its a Paradise project and its all in prophecy and mystery in relation to the wasted places and the foundations of former glories of our origins.

The thing about this project is that it has vast depth in the books and it has purpose and will have results being mankind project. I also believe its connected directly with Jesus, the Father , The Melchizedek the whole array of heaven.

Anyway that's what I reckon, you should get into it. If you can prove that you have discovered it like an email from NASA to confirm the anomaly that's great! and more reference pictures as to the location that would be good.

Like all your images. I don't know about them completely. I'm not that convinced, Sorry man I don't mean to hurt your feelings because its research of the heart and soul, whatever the motivation!

I reckon verifying the rings would be great and does add to the UB research in some areas perhaps.

I reckon that's a good find it can be shown without doubt and without all the false reassurance.

Yeah Yeah there on the way! for sure, for sure there coming soon! or trust me! trust me! how often does that happen in life. When people say that I squirm!!!! especially from you NIKAS! AHAAAAHhh

Nikas if I cant see anything that I would be convinced with verification of some scientific team soon. I then I will think you copied and overlayed it on the image or something.

Sorry but I would expect more when somebody discovers something and cant wait to tell there friends of the find.

Oh about when you say I proved Sarmast wrong. No way man!! You haven't got anything except Google Bathy which can be different to the NASA presentation run through a Photoshop filter.

However you have other software. What is it? Maybe I can use it to further discover Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel.

Lets see how honest and giving you are? pursuant of truth rather self glory. Oh NIKAAASSS OH NIKAASSS! the exploeeeerrr... is that what you want?

The discoveries are great in future forecast but it how you get there that is the witness, that's the beauty! and the great leap of faith it requires.

sevens

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This is just a simple example because the robot is going to meet rather more complicated ones. Now, what Seven (human) would do in this case, beside call Sarmast for help? Will he use his past experience, his own déjà vu to get the best decision?

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Youre a fool Nikas , Off course you would say there is nothing there regarding Dalamatia. Show us!

Im not interested in your games. Big Deal? Youre just playing games becuase you need recognition.

Its all games, No truth in anything you really say at this point, that I can truly witness undeniable and agreed with or recognized by others. The ole trust me business! believe me, I swear that, I swear this, so where is this new great new link.

In my original post I was interested in your find and encouraged you with willingness to help, if I could but then you twist it all around by turning good intentions into some popularity or ego contest with stupid assumptions of influence over others that dont exist except in your mind!

Its just amazing within 12 hrs you you claim there nothing in Dalamatia and while we have to wait days, if not more days for these new links and expansions of your so called 100 meter carving which is now the city Atlantis. As you claim on your site but then in early in your post you say its not Atlantis just a carving. Confusion already.

Least with the Dalamatia images they have a NASA stamp on the image and they did say everthing seem fine with the data. Thats all I can say.

By the way what this new software your talking about? No mention of that.

I mean to say if your going reveal something to the world. I would expect transparency rather than all the cat and mouse games and avoiding posting the right stuff people need to see and know. regarding how, what and where and with what? and how I got there.

Anyway there is the Nasa public link of the original images of Dalamatia. So we know it has credibility with an official agency using there software. The original images!

By the way, where your official Nasa link of the original image. Everyone is still awaiting!!

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Forget about images, do you know that most of the people in website have seen the image but you. I will never show anything.

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Well there you go!

Since most people have seen the new images has anyone got anything further to say?

Do they have the heads up on it?

And regarding your theories, honestly there are so many theories and ideas around and you base everything on one story essentially! So already I know it has a narrow field of vision and I think personaly it doesnt rate as compared to what has been found and connected in all the books of past religion which includes prophecy.

Im only interested in what is there in truth not the mucking around to get there because of ones school like attitude.

Oh well looks like you not going to reveal so one can expect that there some funny business going on! and cant be relied on.

Youre being selective for a reason.

I reckon the reason for you being selective is that you want to develop your own NIKAS cult. hahahahaha...The NIAkS cult OOOHHHH NIKKAAASSSSS!

We already seen a glimpse of your doctrines! People want to put faith in them well good luck to them! They'll need it!

sevens

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Nikas

So in this image you have an obvious triangle that overlays the southern canal of the so called ringed carving.

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and then suddenly as if by magic in this image the triangle overlay is gone and suddenly the canals are exposed.

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AHH come on Nikas thats all your photoshop work. I cant buy into onto anything you say now!

I reckon those bare false claims!! Anything different will only be the 3rd version. How can anyone trust that for a minute.

On top of it you say this

 

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These are different images taken by satellite or Active Sonar.

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What! you don't know the origins of the picture and haven't addressed that with an official agency. Just another nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned to the NIKAS theory and the so called evidence of Photoshop!

Anyway I don't think I have anymore to add to this thread. In the final analysis I think the whole thing is a scam and a set up to fill your coffers using error ideas and thoughts of grandeur. Unless real evidence comes to light and I mean real discovery evidence based on an expedition or NASA proclaiming the images publicly. The whole thing is just a money raising scam by creating false confidence! Same thing happened in the discovery of Atlantis site! That's why he got banned, that's the real reason.  Not because he proved anything new, why would any be banned because of a theory.  Doesn't make sense to ban a theory  as light on as Nikas's

As far as I'm concerned this subject and what it purports is tested and has failed my personal test of the facts of the matter.

It doesn't stack up along with the characteristics of discovery when it happens and in the general attitude.

sevens

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Well none of you have proven a thing both Epsilon and Nikas.

The Video is very interesting in the respect that she speaks of the ruins of 5000 years old even though the Andites where there 7000 years ago.

Here is connection link

 

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By 5000 B.C. the three purest strains of Adam's descendants were in Sumeria, northern Europe, and Greece. The whole of Mesopotamia was being slowly deteriorated by the stream of mixed and darker races which filtered in from Arabia. And the coming of these inferior peoples contributed further to the scattering abroad of the biologic and cultural residue of the Andites. From all over the fertile crescent the more adventurous peoples poured westward to the islands. These migrants cultivated both grain and vegetables, and they brought domesticated animals with them.

About 5000 B.C. a mighty host of progressive Mesopotamians moved out of the Euphrates valley and settled upon the island of Cyprus; this civilization was wiped out about two thousand years subsequently by the barbarian hordes from the north.

Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near the later site of Carthage. And from north Africa large numbers of Andites entered Spain and later mingled in Switzerland with their brethren who had earlier come to Italy from the Aegean Islands.

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So there was a great Andite colony that was near and before Carthage. The old great Andite settlement must be either submerged ruins near Carthage at a shallow depth or somewhere on land on the coast Tunisia! near Carthage.

The circle religion would of been close to the Andites and I believe its the same people who left there circle religion marker behind as by the Evidence in Malta.

The ruins look identical to the Andite constructions that are similar to that in Lixus, Inca other areas that where the product of the Andite nomads who lost there homeland and migrated all over the world and brought there religions and technology with them. That's all it is.

The Andites originally come from the Mesopotamian area and I can prove there existence in Peru as well from around 5000 years ago, where they admixed with the Inca of the area then.

When they speak of 5000 years its a little different to 10,000 years of when Atlantis supposedly sunk from 600BC so that's 12,5000 years ago.

Epsilon if you buy the Nikas stuff I reckon you're just as pathetic.

Where is your evidence or maybe you want to share it with us since you have all this new knowledge and see how it tests out.

I believe the girl in the Malta video more than Nikas as she prove more so the Urantia Book information than Nikas sloppy theory.

Give everyone a break. This is the same stunt as on the Atlantis site. I don't know who is more pathetic.

Nothing about these extra pics so forget it. Bad stunt both of you.

sevens

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Come on Cat you show no counter evidence and you don't read any posts at all, where's your links, analysis and official images!! eh!!! eh!! All you show a re sarcastic one liners and that's all your capable off.

Like Ive said a million times.

The stone wall as mentioned in the UB was discovered and the Acropolis Hill has to still be investigated thoroughly the same goes for terraced hill and the quarry area of which we have side scan images from ifermer off the northern site. Not images that are manipulated with Photoshop to suit a desire for a theory.

It could very well be the hill that was enlarged as mentioned in the UB.

So the project isn't finished yet and at look you so called researchers, bloody lousy researchers claiming victory all ready when the project isn't over yet! You guys are useless with your false claims of nothing!

All you're comments is just a bunch of tripe just hoping that the Discovery of Atlantis doesn't work out. You guys are just useless when pursuant of truth only if it suits your convenient filled theories with pride and prejudice. That's all guys have theories and one story with no evidence. Well done!

Gee you cant talk you don't even show a thing just sit on your back sides winging all day long, full of nothing comments.

The UB book simply proves you all wrong as opposed to your side show alley theories.

If you read in the earlier posts of Nikass circle thread. I was quite happy to help out as I thought he might of found something significant then he becomes a turn coat and lays all these mind trips of people. Such a foolish way of thinking this superior I am rubbish.

The, Ive got one over you crap or the trust me, trust me garbage.

By the way when I mean terraced Hill to the North of the Acropolis Hill I mean a big terraced, half square Hill with the quarry at the base of the terraced hill. The Hill and its all terraces are like what you see in Asia and in some places in Spain.

There is no way this hill could be natural with our manipulation its been worked for growing food and water diversion thousands of years ago.

Maybe if you checked out the members section you could see the image in the Capt Bates hypothesis. You guys wont do that because it will show you up as wrong in your wrong hopeful thoughts.

Suffer the truth as it becomes more apparent over time.

The only credible researcher on this forum who attempts to do something in the way of discovery is Georgeous.

His is the only one along with Sarmast and Little to go there and put there money where there mouth is. The rest who want to destroy this good project are only wingers who live in there arm chair researchers big deal! bunch of cowards.

The rest are participants in a talk fest that goes around in circles.


sevens

Man, they only your own thoughts and theories that doesnt mean you can prove anything.

You show nothing Nikas just assuming what you may think. All based on speculation, that doesn't prove a thing.

Also you don't even answer the mention of the terraced hill to the North. Because you don't want because that is a major hurdle for you. You can get around it until after the next expedition.

Really its all stupid talk until all the results are in after a complete investigation. There is more to say or do.

Why don't you shut up about all this "I will prove Sarmast wrong" and all the other crap and just concentrate on your own research. However, I understand you have to knock Sarmast off before the road is clear for your 100 meters carving on a rock of supposedly your so Called Atlantis of Tunisia.

I have to laugh, still you produce no official NASA link of the original image. By the way its there discovery not yours, your only putting an interpretation on something they found and posted where you put your speculation on it. Thats all! Big Deal!

You cant prove something wrong on speculation. That's what you trying to do. Same with CAT, that's even worse he shows nothing just one liners or sarcasm. Waste of time that amounts to nothing.

Its a futile waste of time, if you cant come up with the true goods. Which is like official scientific evidence accepted by the scientific community. Then forget it you are not going to get followers of the OOOHHHH NIKASSSSS doctrine. People are smarter than that here...I think!

Sorry buddy you will keep on hearing from Cyprus for a long, long, long time and also we have further side scan evidence we still have to investigate physically of the Northern terraced site as mentioned in the UB.

Why don't you call ifermer and get some scans of the Tunisia/Malta area. Gee I wonder if they will even oblige you. That would provide accurate images for you to work with rather than all this Photoshop manipulated images of Google earth bathy trying to fit a theory.

sevens
 

You're in the wrong timeline completely speaking about a recent timeline rather than 12,500 years ago as stated in Plato if you want to get technical. Everything around 5000 years ago has no relevance to Atlantis the home of the Gods.

Nothing you say stacks up, however what has to be done in Cyprus is a core sample on the actual location to prove the date of the inundation of the place. Then we have an accurate reference point to work with.

The pillars could of been everywhere, the pillars are in all cultures. Its only in modern times that we assume its outside the straits but where is the evidence of the lost city outside the straits.

There is none, so until this point nothing outside the straits can be proven, everything its really only speculation and not worth a cracker until it can be proven. Meanwhile everyone will go around in circles in there theories, like yourself trying to prove the other wrong based on your own speculation.

So again you prove nothing because we all need more hard evidence about the Med itself. I mean core samples from the location itself not in the middle of the med but on the location...understand!

This core sample can be to your benefit as well!

I will say the Urantia Book speaks specifically of a stone wall and that's what is exactly there to the exact co ordinates. Sure its no manmade but the the book never speaks of the wall as manmade just a stone wall which is exactly there in the Cyprus location.

That is a direct confirmation of the Urantia Book. period.

Also the UB does mention an enlarged Hill to the North which could be either the Acropolis Hill next to the Stone wall or the terraced half square hill to the north next to the quarry area.

The second location is to the North of the Acropolis Cyprus. I know the UB confirms this northern enlarged Hill as we can see it in the side scan ifermer images.

The Hill is just a big anomaly. So basically before anyone (which includes doc) says that Sarmast Cyprus project is sunk, these are the things in the above mentioned that still have to be done.

All the the ancient locations 1stEden, Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel are looking strong and it will approach the point of undeniable to a rational normal mind as we get closer to resolve of "The fact of the matter"

Its not only the Urantia that speak of the ancient places but its the Bible to and these places are in prophecy so I wouldn't mock these places to much as you might offend the Gods in there work. I wouldn't want them offside because of your attitude because they will not help you in your endeavours.

Remember these places have a huge potential of being attached to change and possibly judgment so be careful with yours words and motives.

I would go about your business quietly and gather your research and get on with people as they may be stimulated to help you. But at the moment no way.

remember that man! The research in Cyprus could be very important to your case and as we know there was a great Andite civilisation that lived near Carthage. If you have found evidence in that area you only prove the Urantia Book which is good this. NIKAS its a far better experience to embrace this huge thing that is going on than all this old world think of power and influence over others and this combat.



Simple as that!

sevens



sevens

NIKAS

I just saw you're thoughts using the Sarmast points.

That's all you will be, a mocker.

Always will be standing on the sidelines mocking.

Its not only the Urantia that speak of the ancient places but its the Bible to and these places are in prophecy so I wouldn't mock these places to much as you might offend the Gods in there work. I wouldn't want them offside because of your attitude because they will not help you in your endeavours.

Remember these places have a huge potential of being attached to change and possibly judgment so be careful with yours words and motives.

I would go about your business quietly and gather your research and get on with people as they may be stimulated to help you. But at the moment no way.

remember that man! The research in Cyprus could be very important to your case. The research in Cyprus could prove many things for other researchers. We know through the UB there was a great Andite civilisation that lived near Carthage around 7000 years ago and there no doubt there maybe submerged places close to the shoreline. Also the Cyprus location is at much lower level than Tunisia. There is no way the Sicilian bridge broke 7000 years ago that event would been in recent historical records of all the cultures.

However this has be proved by a core sample which may reveal that the Cyprus Isthmus sank 34,000 years ago! When the Gilbraltor Dam broke.

If you have found evidence in that area you only prove the Urantia Book which is good. NIKAS its a far better experience to embrace this huge thing that is going on than all this old world thinking, who thinks of power, influence and ego over others.

sevens

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the scattering abroad of the biologic and cultural residue of the Andites. From all over the fertile crescent the more adventurous peoples poured westward to the islands.

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The more I look at this the more I get curious about it.

Near the site of Carthage must lay remnants of an ancient Andite civilisation that had a community on the Mediterranean shoreline at that time. But slowly the sea level rose and submerged the city perhaps.

I was thinking it would be a shallow depth if there was an ancient city. Perhaps off the coast near Carthage! Large stone blocks would be the clue.

I reckon there would be something there.

also note "the scattering abroad of the biologic and cultural residue of the Andites."

Basically saying the Andite location near Carthage and Malta must of been the Andite colony civilisation from many thousands of years ago. Before recorded written history.

Apparently the sea levels at around 7000 years ago is quite marginal say about 5 meters or so.

However between 12,000 - 10,000 years ago the sea level rose 20 meters and would of continued to rise. That would of been the times when Dilmun would of submerged, the original home of the Andites who spread there civilisation throughout the world with thier circle religion.

Also Carthage had a circle habour maybe they borrowed the idea from an earlier design?

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Has anyone considered that the real Discovery of Atlantis encompasses the ancient places as the story encompasses fragments of all these places.

Also with Dilmun you can see they had advance warning of the encroaching sea as can built up protective walls along the coast to save there home of glory.

20 meters in two years is a sudden rise to the submerge a city and the legend of it would of spread around throughout the lands 10,000 years ago like in platos story.

sevens

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I tell you the Atlantis rising is all about these ancient foundations as Ive mentioned and other submerged places like in the bay Cambay. Its the knowledge that these places lead to is the point. The gathering of Wisdom and that is a priceless. pearl.

That is the real point of these places to help bring about a transition of enlightenment to help fix up the planet.

Prophecy running its course. Everything about these places are all in the books of religions and myths of all cultures of the past in one way or another. They all have fragments of the great land of the Gods. Past, present and future is involved in these places its a mutual connection point of real relevance in the realms of the Gods and of Paradise!

I think its very serious about these places and I think the Ancient of Days, how subtle they are right behind all this.

Just don't do the Noah mistake before the flood?? This could be about an obvious change that will refine all our knowledge to its grass roots. Any false stuff will just go. Its a refinement of our knowledge and this affair has all to do with the heavenly courts and mankind.

Its like we are in court at this time and everything we say and do is being observed in the final process. That goes for me to in all my verbiage.

However we live in very interesting times. We sure do!

I think when the Seven Commands are discovered in Dalamatia and excavated and cut out of the site, and proclaimed to the world, that will be "the stone that was cut out of the mountain that filled the earth" as mentioned in Daniel. That would fulfill the prophecy in my view and be in relation to the end time prophecies.

Everything is on the table being tested at this time and its all coming from the wasted places and foundations as mentioned in the Bible and the UB is the major guide source which fulfills prophecy in Revelations.

 

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Isaiah 51

Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the Lord: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.

2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.

3 For the Lord shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the Lord; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

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Isnt the following exactly what the scenario is. Embarking on a mission looking for the Seven Commands in the lost city of Dalamatia in an expedition.

Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the Lord: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.

Isnt that what we are talking about beforehand.

First doing the Fathers will like a search for Eden in the books, looking for the rock, the locations, the books and the physical clues using technology. Looking for in this case the Sevens Commands which attached to our very origins in the spritiual sense. Searched for and discovered in a hole of a pit like submerged under the water where the rock the Seven commands is being dug out of a hole in the sea. The Seven commands as excavated would be related to the above Daniel reference.

Sounds like adventure.

sevens

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Yeah yeah

Lets see the evidence first in regards to all speculation OK.

Then we will know the truth about the matter where everything is on the table OK epsilon.

All theories and speculation is on the table. What's your speculation? is the same as Nikas. Eh! Well lets see how it stacks up like with everything else.

Everyone has there own idea including you.

Any expedition from this time onwards should find resolve either way regardless what we speculate and think.

You ok with that

 

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You cannot compare legitimate science to pure crap

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Have you ever read the UB, no I can tell so what makes you so right, Is your attitude of a scientific approach to all, no! So why should I respect your senseless quote.

Like I said lets see what lays there.

sevens

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No worries whatever you say.

We all have our own ideas in the way we see them.

This will always be the case.

Im coming from a different aspect to you. But I dont say to you, what you do is worthless or what you read is worthless.

Everything is on the table as far as Im concerned.

Its funny you say these things about the UB which is about religion but you study an ancient Plato story which is a rendition of the Gods and connect them to the rings which is about religion in symbolism, look at the UB logo and the rings. Isnt the Gods all about religion which have the circle connection. Isnt the circles you study all about religion of the past about the Gods with its symbolism, the circle??? In this case concentric circles. The same concentric circles as on the breast plate of the Melchizidek.

Look at the Urantia Book logo and then look at the ringed circles and see the connection in symbolism.

So where is the link?

The big moment of Glory!!!!

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

No problem thats great but we all have personal experiences that are unique it doesnt mean that I have the same experience as you in this.

I appreciate your trying to help me but I feel quite happy with all things concerning this revelation. Why you even have a piece of it in your hands and you give this advise against the thing that the symbol represents.

It ironic to hear some one give negative advise about the UB and you have a piece of the puzzle in your hands.

Off course Im going to say What are you kidding look at what your holding. heheheh!

Thats if it right an correct. You still have to launch an expedition there to verify many things.

I suppose you be the head of the expedition?

Sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Well that great NIKAS

but where is the link.

Well from what I understand its near a military base of some sort. Sure the site wasn't used for target practice during the war by aerial bombing.

Hard to know. Its not submerged. Or could be another temple made in the same traditions as the other temples.

Just another temple outline or burial area.

NIKAS and epsilon you should take a flight over to Malta. Check it out and get some archaeologist on to the case. Find out a bit more.

So much for the public link, the big launch and its still hidden away.

I don't think it has anything to do with Atlantis. I think its just an extension of a circle religion and that's all it may be or it could of been some construction during the war or perhaps something more recent or something in the Dark ages. Hard to know!

I reckon bombing practice but without live ammunitions. But hard to know without a link of new images to make a reasonable assessment.

Well least when I make a discovery I release the images to all for assessment I don't just release the image to a selective few.

That's not a release after bragging about something and denegrating the theory of others and not show the link to those who have different ideas.

That's just weak!

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

You know the Military probably know all about the circles as they used it for a purpose.

If they used non live ammunition there maybe some circular marks with most likely the middle taget missing. 100 meters might sound right for a ariel traget. Close to a military base, sounds right. Close to the ocean, out of harms way.

Hard to know without the supposed images.

just a thought.

hahahaha Albania here I come.]

http://www.superatlantis.com/id26.html

Yep that what I think it is

The British or American bombers coming in from the sea taking aim at the concentric target and taking aim without live ammunition to test there accuracy and a bid to conserve ammunition.

Its a Ariel firing range used during the war. This explains the triangle and the potted marks which also marks the direction of which the bombers came from. From the sea towards a target in a safe place leaving a triangle.

That's why part of the target is gone from the direction of which the bombs fell.

Personally I would look further into this aspect without wasting any further time on ancient theories.

Nikas you would have to prove that this is not the case. If its the case, Ariel bombing target your theory is sunk along with Epsilon. In a literal bombing raid of both your attitude.

You gave the answer in both of your playing games.

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

I say the Urantia information about the Malta stand quite firmly compared to the WW2 bombing fields of Nikas's and Epsilons Atlantis.

I assume the Atlantis Bombing target is located on an island! in Malta?? eh!

I wonder if Nikas had a feeling of this beforehand and made his excuses about the military. Was he dismissing a fear of threat to his theory of the rings beforehand??

It will be interesting to see how you guys explain this one away without pride and prejudice.

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 05:00 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

NIKAS and Epsilon

You guys are in damage control.

Your theory has been bombed out by a truth aerial bombing raid!

Fires to put out all over the place, time is off the essence, the more delay the worse it gets regarding credibility.

How do we counter this in the camp that has no foundation so when the storm of truth arrives. AAHH Its gone! It was chaff and it blew away in the refinement of truth.

Remembering the all time NIKAS words, trust me!, trust me!, Believe me guys, OOOH NIKAASSSS I will show you Atlantis!

I remember and the denigration of the Sarmast theory and NIKAS hasn't even spoke to the guy at all.

At the end of the day it was only a bombing range used in the war!

That's all this fuss was over wasting everyone's time with foolishness coupled with attitude.

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 05:43 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Man you're the guy with the claims of this and that.

You wont show the evidence on a public forum but yet you bag other researchers.

Come on what's wrong, show the links buddy.

Why should I respect you.

You have shown me nothing to respect regarding your find because you have not shown it.

I say that location your image was of Malta so now its off Tunisia. Prove that I'm wrong to the whole forum with images, to everyone not just the followers.

Prove that I'm wrong! I don't mind because either way whatever the find is useful in the UB case information.

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Actualy this is how fraudulent NIKAS'S is

In this quote he says

 

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Brigg this is in Malta. I know nothing about it; it’s just that it has to be very old. I need someone from Malta to go and check it out. If there is a Maltese in this forum please show yourself!

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then when he is proven wrong as his rings are demonstrated to be a disused bombing range in Malta! he switches into fall back position plan B mode! Just another tail!

After proven wrong he says this

 

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actually is in tunisia .....ahaha and it was never used as bombing range, its underwater......

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I hope you're reading this Epsilom, you're an intelligent guy cant you see another Van Daniken experience unfold before your eyes!!

Look at the track, drift and avoidance when it comes down to it.

Anyone must be mad to follow NIKAS in his ever changing assertions according to the testing results of the material he presents.

sevens

[ 02-23-2007, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Georgeous

I wouldn't leave the forum on the account of NIKAS and his stupid assessments and assertions that forms no part of reality except error.

I enjoy your posts even though I have different ideas. That doesn't matter I still respect you because you do things and you attempt physically to find with honesty. NIKAS is opposite to you and I have no respect for him on any level as he has shown no reason for respect.

I wouldn't worry about people not conversing in response to your posts. I get that all the time.

I have posted fragments of personal discoveries and I get very little if no response.

I'm sure in your case many people read you posts. I wouldn't leave this forum because of NIKAS and his dream on team whose members lose the reputation!

regards
sevens

Hi Ive worked out a way to determine exactly the age of the great Pryamid.

Apparently according the Ronnie Burnes Prophecy and Predictions web page
they are arguing over the the real age of the pyramid some say it was built between 3000-2500BC some say ot was built about 10,000 years ago.

Here is what the Urantia Book says about who constructed the great pryamid.

 

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6. THE ANDITES ALONG THE NILE

From the times of the terminal Andite migrations, culture declined in the Euphrates valley, and the immediate center of civilization shifted to the valley of the Nile. Egypt became the successor of Mesopotamia as the headquarters of the most advanced group on earth.

The Nile valley began to suffer from floods shortly before the Mesopotamian valleys but fared much better. This early setback was more than compensated by the continuing stream of Andite immigrants, so that the culture of Egypt, though really derived from the Euphrates region, seemed to forge ahead. But in 5000 B.C., during the flood period in Mesopotamia, there were seven distinct groups of human beings in Egypt; all of them, save one, came from Mesopotamia.

When the last exodus from the Euphrates valley occurred, Egypt was fortunate in gaining so many of the most skillful artists and artisans. These Andite artisans found themselves quite at home in that they were thoroughly familiar with river life, its floods, irrigations, and dry seasons. They enjoyed the sheltered position of the Nile valley; they were there much less subject to hostile raids and attacks than along the Euphrates. And they added greatly to the metalworking skill of the Egyptians. Here they worked iron ores coming from Mount Sinai instead of from the Black Sea regions.

The Egyptians very early assembled their municipal deities into an elaborate national system of gods. They developed an extensive theology and had an equally extensive but burdensome priesthood. Several different leaders sought to revive the remnants of the early religious teachings of the Sethites, but these endeavors were short-lived. The Andites built the first stone structures in Egypt. The first and most exquisite of the stone pyramids was erected by Imhotep, an Andite architectural genius, while serving as prime minister. Previous buildings had been constructed of brick, and while many stone structures had been erected in different parts of the world, this was the first in Egypt. But the art of building steadily declined from the days of this great architect.
This brilliant epoch of culture was cut short by internal warfare along the Nile, and the country was soon overrun, as Mesopotamia had been, by the inferior tribes from inhospitable Arabia and by the blacks from the south. As a result, social progress steadily declined for more than five hundred years.
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As you see in the above Imhotep was an Andite who came from the Euphrates at around 7000 years ago and became a prime minister and who was architectural genius.

The way we can work out the time of the construction of the Great pyramid is by the angle of the "The great sloping passage at the entrance" in relation to the Pole Star then.

Here is the clue in the Urantia Book

 

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species of ancestor worship. The sloping entrance passage of the great pyramid pointed directly toward the Pole Star so that the soul of the king, when emerging from the tomb, could go straight to the stationary and established constellations of the fixed stars, the supposed abode of the kings. web page

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So in the above the clue lays in the "The sloping entrance passage of the great pyramid pointed directly toward the Pole Star" in the middle of the passage way.

At the time the great pyramid was built the pole star was situated in the middle of the sloping passage of the great pryamid.

The angular displacement of the Pole Star today as compared to the Pole Star then, in the middle of the sloping passage. If you multiplied this angular displacement by the precession of the earth it should give you a value that should correspond to a time period.

The key is the position of the passage way, where the Pole Star has to be located in the middle of it. And where the Pole Star is now. Going back in time the star should be placed itself in the middle of the Pole Star perfectly. That would be the hard evidence!! that would again the prove the Urantia Book.

I propose to test this out in the test of everything!

Like the eye in the triangle, that must be the clue to the symbolism of the eye in the capstone, that must be a mystery in itself and possibly connected to imhotep and the great Pyramid and the Pole Star in the middle of the passage. The Pole Star in the middle of a triangle the key to the capstone and the Pole Star.

Another clue I found in this Video was that Edgar Cayce's son said that Atlantis had 3 major destructions. Apparently in 50,000 years ago, 24,000 years ago and 12,000 years ago. It sure sounds familiar in symbolism to the lost ancient cities of Dalamatia 150,000, 1Eden 38,000 and Dilmun/Babel 10,000 years ago. Sometimes I wonder whether Edgar Cayce was really looking to these places??

Anyway there is some food for thought there and possibly unlocking another great mystery in the Urantia Book

enjoy the video.

Sevens

[ 02-27-2007, 03:29 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: The Eye in the Triangle culture "The Andites"   Hi Ive worked out a way to determine exactly the age of the great Pyramid.

Apparently according the Ronnie Burnes Prophecy and Predictions web page
they are arguing over the the real age of the pyramid some say it was built between 3000-2500BC some say ot was built about 10,000 years ago.

Here is what the Urantia Book says about who constructed the great pryamid.

 

As you see in the above Imhotep was an Andite who came from the Euphrates at around 7000 years ago and became a prime minister and who was architectural genius.

The way we can work out the time of the construction of the Great pyramid is by the angle of the "The great sloping passage at the entrance" in relation to the Pole Star then.

Here is the clue in the Urantia Book

 

So in the above the clue lays in the "The sloping entrance passage of the great pyramid pointed directly toward the Pole Star" in the middle of the passage way.

web page

At the time the great pyramid was built the pole star was situated in the middle of the sloping passage of the great pryamid.

The angular displacement of the Pole Star today as compared to the Pole Star then, in the middle of the sloping passage. If you multiplied this angular displacement by the precession of the earth it should give you a value that should correspond to a time period.

The key is the position of the passage way, where the Pole Star has to be located in the middle of it. And where the Pole Star is now. Going back in time the star should be placed itself in the middle of the Passage way perfectly. That would be the hard evidence!! that would again the prove the Urantia Book.

I propose to test this out in the test of everything!

Like the eye in the triangle, that must be the clue to the symbolism of the eye in the capstone, that must be a mystery in itself and possibly connected to imhotep and the great Pyramid and the Pole Star in the middle of the passage. The Pole Star in the middle of a triangle the key to the capstone and the Pole Star.

Another clue I found in this Video was that Edgar Cayce's son said that Atlantis had 3 major destructions. Apparently in 50,000 years ago, 24,000 years ago and 12,000 years ago. It sure sounds familiar in symbolism to the lost ancient cities of Dalamatia 150,000, 1Eden 38,000 and Dilmun/Babel 10,000 years ago. Sometimes I wonder whether Edgar Cayce was really looking to these places??

Anyway there is some food for thought there and possibly unlocking another great mystery in the Urantia Book

enjoy the video.

Sevens

this was a response from Tom Herbet.




 

Was the prince Imhotep?


Influx of souls from the ancient places or does that mean an awareness of the places begins and starts to draw people through discovery???

also note Cayces alignment thoughts on the Pole Star with the opening.

 

then match it with the UB

 

Also note that the recordings of this was in 1932 in the same time as the recording the UB compile, even more curious.



regards sevens

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject:   This what I shared in reply to Tom but I have many questions as usuall.

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Tom Herbet

That was an interesting post.

I was looking at the dates of Cayce's recording 1932, it seems to me that Cayce received this information about the same time that the compile of the UB came through.

I also noticed that Cayce says exactly the same thing. Identical in actual fact.

So according to Cayce the Pole star must of been aligned to the entry of the great passageway??

I reckon JPL could run the figures in there super computer and could easily find out the timeline of this alignment of the Pole Star to the great passageway.

Essentially I believe the pyramids is a soul device that facilitates soul transfer to another part of the universe. But in actual fact Soul transfer was more simple and straight forward than that.

Also it indicates how burdensome there religion was that basically enslaved the people to make these massive structures.

It seems that technology came from a different place and in the times Imhotep there many types of races of people there as a result of migration during the period of sea level rise and floods.

Between 12,000 - 10,000 years ago the sea levels rose 20 metres, in 2000 years , imagine that in today's times.

All major coastal cities just vanished.

I would say that the sunken city in the Bay of Cambay and its trading partner Dilmun in the North-eastern Persian Gulf went down at around the same time. Its also mentioned in the UB that Egypt who also suffered from the sea level rise and floods faired much better.

I feel all these ancient places are all connected in many ways and its through ancient myth and Plato's story that we can get a glimpse of the flooding that occurred and how it affected modern civilisation in those ancient times and of places of other times.

Also I want to note a direct link between Cayce and the Urantia Book in the fragment regarding the Pole Star and its alignment to the great Pyramid. In addition I have this strong feeling that Cayce is also pointing to these places but I feel in some ways he also speaks in riddles.

I reckon he makes reference to these places and these places seem to have multiple connections in all the books.

Now in the following is the same Andite symbol similar to the foundations of Babel in Dilmun. The following image is symbol inscribed on the block that block the sloping passageway in the great Pyramid.

This image was sent to me by I am that I am, thanks.

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And here is the following foundation of the circular temple of Babel










Also the Carthagians had the same circle on top of a triangle which was probably adopted from an earlier Andite culture that was settled close to Carthage.

Here is the Symbol of Tanit, the Carthage religious symbol.



I feel that all these places and the commonality of the circle in the triangle being the marker of the Andites of old and also maybe reflective of the Andite empire throughout the ages in this region as recorded by the Egyptians.


I thought it was interesting!


regards
sevens




And here is the following foundation of the circular temple of Babel




Also the Carthagians had the same circle on top of a triangle which was probably adopted from an earlier Andite culture that was settled close to Carthage.

Here is the Symbol of Tanit, the Carthage religious symbol.



I feel that all these places and the commonality of the circle in the triangle being the marker of the Andites of old and also maybe reflective of the Andite empire throughout the ages in this region as recorded by the Egyptians.

sevens

Hi Smiley and all

I really enjoy the posts I'm learning much and it seems to me that the Pyramids are much older that what the mainstream think.

I find in the link given that much points to an older date of construction.

I found this this in the crystal links

 

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According to Edgar Cayce, the Sphinx was built in 10,500 BC by survivors of the vanished civilization of Atlantis.

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I believe that the legend of Dilmun the lost home of the Andites who migrated to Egypt throughout the timeline of history made its way into the story of Atlantis.

Looking at the commonalities I find similarities between Dilmun and Atlantis.

 

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Dilmun also had a very large circular temple that was central, it appears there a walls or built up ramparts that was built either side of the Babel temple.

The circular temple also has built up walls with possibly canals on top of them that led to the sea coast.

Dilmun was a great commercial centre.

Dilmun appears to be built on a spit of land or an isthmus running parallel to the mainland. In other images seen you can see the old coastline and how the coastline was built up to protect the city from rising sea levels.

Dilmun also had a walled rectangular plain that was use for farming purposes.

Dilmun was a great commercial centre that traded with its trading partner in the Bay of Cambay.

Dilmun had great influence throughout the Civilised world.

Dilmun was the home of the fallen Gods where borrowed the legendary stories of Dalamatia the first home of the Gods before the Fall.

Dilmun was known to be a bright place where the Gods played.

Dilmun is recorded by the Sumerians who also have a kinglist that go back to the Dilmun times.

Enki reflections of his own city matches the descriptions of Dilmun.

Dilmun had a nice climate in those days.

Dilmun was submerged due to rising levels.

Dilmun had a swamp next to it, the snake pit or the swamp.

Dilmun had a large empire.

Dilmun was lost around 10,000 years ago but could be earlier around the same time the cities in the Bay of Cambay where lost due to rising sea levels.

Dilmun within the circular temple could of had a canal system that was fed by water from the sea. Its quite possible that small boats made there way through the canal system to the main commercial centre.

Anyway there are few points of commonality that might possibly exist between Dilmun and Atlantis.

I believe the migrations of the Andites from Dilmun brought the legends of there homeland which ultimately became the Atlantis Story which is a story about themselves, the Andites and there history there very ancient history.

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The marker I believe that has survived and has perpetuated through the timeline is by the circle in the triangle symbol and the circle symbol. The Andite/Atlantis/adidte/Aditya symbol.

I feel all those names are really different names but of the same people that existed within different legends of cultures.

Here gain is the picture for study.

Its not a smooth image and more has to be done to it. It has been enhanced using Bryce based on the NASA world wind images. The resolution of the worldwind images is a low res type so therefore its not very clear. However there are many anomalous features there and the place is exactly where it supposed to be as described in the UB.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel_close.jpg

It just makes logical sense that the Andites of Dilmun would bring with them the stories and legends of there homeland including there religions. Atlantis! I believe there should be some commonalities found in the Egyptian religion through there symbols.

Anyway much food for thought.

sevens

[ 02-28-2007, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi all thanks for your posts and input.

In this following is an image that I am that I am sent me. For me its was the connecting piece that married all the fragments of information and revealed further possibilities in truth.

In the following image is the block, blocking the great sloping passageway mentioned in the UB and in Cayce. The ensign of Imhotep can be seen, the circle in the triangle ensign.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/triangle_circle.jpg

This image is the block, blocking the great sloping passageway that pointed to the Pole Star in those times of Imhotep.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/orig_door.jpg

Here is a negative image of the block. Note the Circle in the triangle ensign and and also note the sun feature or semicircle feature appearing in the back ground of the pyramid! Also there is another line running the right of the ensign.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/shaft_door.jpg

In the following is a close up of the ensign and know note there is a in lay of another circle within a triangle.

That is a double circle within a triangle within the main circle within a triangle. A double ensign!

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/double_triangle.jpg

Know in this next negative image you can see the ensign and in addition you can see ancient script written right across the ensign. This script probably goes back when the great sloping passageway was blocked. Gets more intriguing all the time

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/ensign_writing.jpg


And here is the following foundation of the circular temple of Babel that appears to within ramparts forming a triangle. The whole area seems to be enclosed within a triangle.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel_close.jpg

another view

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel7.jpg

Again we have the circle in the triangle connector of both the Andite Egyptians and the Andites of Dilmun in the same feature. The Ensign of Imhotep, The Andite who held the traditions of his original homeland Dilmun and built a monument to commemorate his original homeland. I wonder!!

These are my views but again It needs further analysis and an expedition to be made to these places to verify and possibly reveal something undeniable!

sevens

[ 02-28-2007, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi everyone

Ok here is the challenge what is the ancient script

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/ensign_writing.jpg

It is quite possible that this script goes right back to 10,000 years of the construction or when the passageway was blocked.

What if we went on an expedition in Dilmun and found fragments of the same script. That would prove the case.

Here is a close up of the script

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/andite_script.jpg

Could this be part of the great mystery the Edgar case was referring to. The script written over the double circle in triangle ensign?

I think it completely fascinating and intriguing.

In the close up there appears to be a square with a cross within, its just right of the triangle/pyramid. I wonder if that part of the script.

What a hiding place for a mystery, the only safe place in Egypt. Within the great Pyramid itself, this piece is probably the most valuable piece of the whole construction??

Thinking about the double triangle, in real truth its a triple triangle, the great pyramid itself, the Triangle ensign and the small triangle inlay in the ensign. Has like a trinity feel about it with its own marker.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/double_triangle.jpg

I wonder if we are a step closer?

sevens

[ 02-28-2007, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject:
hello, sevens ~ i read new scientist religiously.i also get the weekely magazine at home- i love it! today i was reading this article about an ancient observatory discovered in peru and thought of you and so i am sending the webaddress: http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11281-ancient-solar-observatory-discovered-in-peru.html check out the aerial shot <click enlarge>...whaddaya think? oh, and by the way, i was born on the 7th day of the year. Namaste' julie _________________ AMOR VINCIT OMNIA

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject:
sevens ~ it is the photo on the bottom right side ...of the circular structure ..i was unable to make it 'stick' on the board. ~ julie _________________ AMOR VINCIT OMNIA

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject:
Hi Sojourner How is it going? Wow thanks for the input, I went to the site and was amazed and excited at the same time. I saw the concentric circle fort and the 13 foundations. The 13 foundations instantly reminded me of the Easter island statues but with out the Statues. I strongly feel this could very well related to the 132 Andites that end up in Inca land and admixed with the Inca race and who travelled through Easter Island when the Island Land bridge extending from Japan to Peru. I loved the fort, I had not seen that before. Unbelievable. I feel the knowledge displayed there came from another place like Sumeria and looks very familiar and the best part I can prove that the Sumerians where there with the Inca through the Fuente Magna bowl full of Sumerian script and peculiarities in the statues of that time. I tried the link again but the site seems down. I cant find the picture elsewhere. thanks for the great input I really treasure the pictures of fascination. Here is a tablet I made up with images and connections, the Sumerian bowl and its connections are in the tablet. http://www.dalamatiacity.com/mari_cultic_stela3.htm Just some thoughts I managed to find the images http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11281-ancient-solar-observatory-discovered-in-peru.html To me the above represents a practical design to defend the hill top. However it does look interesting the concentric circles and when you study the inner circle there appears to be 2 circles in a slight triangle. How ironic is that! It would be nice to know the age of the fort and if there is a connection to the Sumerians Andites back then. Imagine the above with Easter Island Statues with the sun peering through the Gaps, representative of the Gods as the shaft of sunlight hits the designated spot marking the seasons. The row of Gods on Easter Island was probably used in the same way, to designate seasons in the same method. What a beautiful site of the sun peering through the 13 mounds. all the best sevens

I'm sure the soul can pass through bends.

Personally I don't expect they would be able to see anything looking through passageway. I think the shaft was more symbolic of the soul leaving earth direct to the "Abodes of the Gods" than anything.

I think the Bends have got nothing to do with it.

Any way both the UB and Cayce mention the same thing in essence. Passageways or shafts if you like that point star ward to a fixed focus.

You know you guys this is all about religion, the Egyptians was nothing but a religious race who held the Gods in the highest esteem and you study this race and there religion to work out Atlantis and so forth. But when a religious book enters the debate and helps us to work the secret out, OOH no, its all bad, we cant except that.

Anyway, the sources that reveals this particular mystery is good enough for me not to mention the journey to all these places.

I bet you this journey will keep on continuing, I feels right on target.

all the best

sevens

[ 03-03-2007, 03:21 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

I was thinking could the great sloping passageway be at the bottom right at the Pyramid entry lining up with the Pole Star standing at the entry?

Could that be the great sloping passageway that you could walk through. Its another thought which I hope doesn't confuse the study.

The only way to prove it is through a complete study on all the Northern passageways and shafts and see how the Pole Star lined up back in the timeline then, using specialized software. If the Pole star does match with a specific passageway then that would prove the case and the correct passageway thus proving the UB and Cayces input on "the facts of the matter" and I'm sure the Angels are just bursting to tell us "the facts of the matter" through these little discoveries and testing them out to see if they actually have weight and gravity.

http://www.cheops.org/startpage/themystery/shaftgr.JPG

OK I did a search, this is what I found

 

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The Descending Passage lines up with the Pole Star. With the door opening so small and the length of the passage 334 feet long, the angle of view is only + or - 1/3 of a degree. Because of the slow motion of the stars, the passage lines up precisely to a Pole Star only once every several thousand years. Stars move, and the Pole Star, Alpha Draconis (Dragon Star) has not been in direct alignment with the Descending Passage for thousands of years. However, a new Pole Star will finally become aligned within the next few years; this heavenly body is known as the North Star, or "Polaris".

Each year the North Star shines further down the Descending Passage. It will illuminate the entrance to the Well Shaft (sometimes called the Point of Last Escape) in 1997. The North Star will shine on the floor of the Subterranean Passage seven years later in 2004. What is the significance of these events? (Some people speculate they may be related to "the signs in the stars" that the Bible mentions with regard to the Second Coming of Christ.

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Did you read that! and what are we talking about?? What has been the prime message in all these posts.

And look at we are discovering now. In this timeline??? makes makes you think about it.

How interesting

I found this website interesting and helps us get a step closer to what the UB and Cayce speaks of.

http://www.europa.com/~edge/giza.html

http://www.europa.com/~edge/images/py4.gif

http://www.europa.com/~edge/images/gizada.gif

That was a real revelation for me.

However further down it says this

 

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CHRONOLOGICAL MEASUREMENTS: When years are substituted for inches, the Great Pyramid becomes a prophetic calender. Dates shown include the alignment of the last Pole Star Draconis (Dragon Star) in 2141 B.C., the start of the Pyramid's contruction in 2623 B.C., the Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt in 1453 B.C., the death of Christ in 33 A.D., and the start of World War I in 1914.

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But then how many Pole Alignments have there been in the past before 3000BC or so? and which is the relevant alignment for the construction of the Pyramids? if they older than 3000BC

But reading on I found this very interesting

 

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SOLVING A PROPHETIC RIDDLE
There is strong evidence that Isaiah spoke of the Pyramid: "In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the Land of Egypt, and a monument at the border thereof to the Lord, and it shall be for a sign, and for a witness unto the Lord of Hosts in the Land of Egypt" (Isaiah 19:19-20). In the Hebrew language, each of the original 30 words has a numerical value because each Hebrew letter is also a number. When the 30 words are added up, the total is 5,449, which is one of the most significant and dominant numbers of the Pyramid. It is the exact height of the Pyramid in sacred Jewish inches.

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"In that day" In what day does that refer to? I wonder if we are in the path of something major?

Just see what happens! I thought that was interesting.

I found this and comes to mind thinking UB that this time period was around the reign of Melchizedek around 2000BC in Jerusalem. Also Abraham, at this time had a distant cousin on the throne of Egypt. If this pyramid was built in this timeline 2141 B.C. Abraham, Melchizedeks and the Pharaoh may of known about the construction of the great pyramid. Maybe perhaps??

 

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As shown earlier, the Pyramid has an astronomically fixed date, which corresponds to the only past alignment of a Pole Star to the Descending Passage. This alignment occurred in 2141 B.C.

As shown in the Ascending Passage, Christ was born in the year 2 B.C. -- an event 2,139 years in the future of the Pole Star alignment. If we continue to recognize the interrelationship of time and distance, and we measure 2,139 furlongs from the Pyramid along the great arc, we would again come to Bethlehem. Thus the birthplace of Christ is not just a place depicted by a line, but a precise location pinpointed by the intersection of a direction line and a time line that were cast in stone 2,129 years before the event.

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There is more to connect here but its late will continue on later.

sevens

[ 03-03-2007, 05:07 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

[ 03-03-2007, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

Im looking into the UB to see if I can find more clues about the Egyptians. Also I'm trying to see if there was connection to the Melchizedek, but I'm afraid his time was after the construction of the great pyramid. I thought maybe there could of been connection to the prophecy viechle, the great Pyramid.


 

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2. EARLY EGYPTIAN RELIGION

The original Melchizedek teachings really took their deepest root in Egypt, from where they subsequently spread to Europe. The evolutionary religion of
Page 1044 the Nile valley was periodically augmented by the arrival of superior strains of Nodite, Adamite, and later Andite peoples of the Euphrates valley.

From time to time, many of the Egyptian civil administrators were Sumerians. As India in these days harbored the highest mixture of the world races, so Egypt fostered the most thoroughly blended type of religious philosophy to be found on Urantia, and from the Nile valley it spread to many parts of the world. The Jews received much of their idea of the creation of the world from the Babylonians, but they derived the concept of divine Providence from the Egyptians.

It was political and moral, rather than philosophic or religious, tendencies that rendered Egypt more favorable to the Salem teaching than Mesopotamia. Each tribal leader in Egypt, after fighting his way to the throne, sought to perpetuate his dynasty by proclaiming his tribal god the original deity and creator of all other gods. In this way the Egyptians gradually got used to the idea of a supergod, a steppingstone to the later doctrine of a universal creator Deity. The idea of monotheism wavered back and forth in Egypt for many centuries, the belief in one God always gaining ground but never quite dominating the evolving concepts of polytheism.

For ages the Egyptian peoples had been given to the worship of nature gods; more particularly did each of the two-score separate tribes have a special group god, one worshiping the bull, another the lion, a third the ram , and so on. Still earlier they had been totem tribes, very much like the Amerinds.
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and here are dates on the Melchizedek

 

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2. THE SAGE OF SALEM

It was 1,973 years before the birth of Jesus that Machiventa was bestowed upon the human races of Urantia. His coming was unspectacular; his materialization was not witnessed by human eyes. He was first observed by mortal man on that eventful day when he entered the tent of Amdon, a Chaldean herder of Sumerian extraction. And the proclamation of his mission was embodied in the simple statement which he made to this shepherd, "I am Melchizedek, priest of El Elyon, the Most High, the one and only God."
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However the Pryamids according to

 

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As shown earlier, the Pyramid has an astronomically fixed date, which corresponds to the only past alignment of a Pole Star to the Descending Passage. This alignment occurred in 2141 B.C . As shown in the Ascending Passage, Christ was born in the year 2 B.C. -- an event 2,139 years in the future of the Pole Star alignment. If we continue to recognize the interrelationship of time and distance, and we measure 2,139 furlongs from the Pyramid along the great arc, we would again come to Bethlehem. Thus the birthplace of Christ is not just a place depicted by a line, but a precise location pinpointed by the intersection of a direction line and a time line that were cast in stone 2,129 years before the event.

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web page
So Looks like Melchizedek was after the construction of the Pyramids. I thought there could of been some transfer of knowledge. However I do find the closeness of the dates close and a little intriguing and perhaps there is some family conjunction of knowledge or truth in different aspects like in design and in truth like the the great pyramid. Being a viechle for spiritual purposes and for prophecy.

I'm finding out more about Abraham

 

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web page The ancestry of the father of Jesus went back to the days of Abraham and through this venerable patriarch to the earlier lines of inheritance leading to the Sumerians and Nodites and, through the southern tribes of the ancient blue man, to Andon and Fonta.

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Ok in this next search here is a clue to Abraham and Egyptian royalty

 

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Not long after they had established themselves near Salem, Abraham and Lot journeyed to the valley of the Nile to obtain food supplies as there was then a drought in Palestine. During his brief sojourn in Egypt Abraham found a distant relative on the Egyptian throne, and he served as the commander of two very successful military expeditions for this king. During the latter part of his sojourn on the Nile he and his wife, Sarah, lived at court, and when leaving Egypt, he was given a share of the spoils of his military campaigns.

It required great determination for Abraham to forego the honors of the Egyptian court and return to the more spiritual work sponsored by Machiventa. But Melchizedek was revered even in Egypt, and when the full story was laid before Pharaoh,

he strongly urged Abraham to return to the execution of his vows to the cause of Salem.

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web page Sounds like family advise!

So Abraham had genetic connections to the Egyptian Royalty and was connected to this linage that was of the Sumerians and Nodites extract.

Interesting

Now about Imhotep

 

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The Egyptians very early assembled their municipal deities into an elaborate national system of gods. They developed an extensive theology and had an equally extensive but burdensome priesthood. Several different leaders sought to revive the remnants of the early religious teachings of the Sethites, but these endeavours were short-lived. The Andites built the first stone structures in Egypt. The first and most exquisite of the stone pyramids was erected by Imhotep, an Andite architectural genius, while serving as prime minister. Previous buildings had been constructed of brick, and while many stone structures had been erected in different parts of the world, this was the first in Egypt. But the art of building steadily declined from the days of this great architect.

This brilliant epoch of culture was cut short by internal warfare along the Nile, and the country was soon overrun , as Mesopotamia had been, by the inferior tribes from inhospitable Arabia and by the blacks from the south. As a result, social progress steadily declined for more than five hundred years.

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web page

So Imhotep was an Andite prime minister over Egypt in around 100 years before Melchizedek.

So quite possibly there could of been another line of knowledge of truth that was held by a family dynasty of Pharaoh that had distant genetic relationship with Abraham. If that family was still in power in Egypt in the times of Melchizedek then there could be some connections there and the knowledge of the Pyramids could of been within the family so to speak being connected to Abraham and we know where Abraham came from Mesopotamia.

Who was the Pharaoh, the distant relative in the time of Abraham working on the dates? and was it the same family that ruled in the times of Imhotep was the prime minister then. Is there a connection?


sevens

[ 03-03-2007, 03:21 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Maybe the Pyramid was the per cursor to Melchizedek, the messenger or the announcement. Perhaps then a little over a hundred years the Melchizedek arrives. The great Pyramid probably by design probably contained the future of the next 2 epochs, his being the 3rd epochal revelation.

Like John the Baptist announcing Jesus, the same thing with the Great Pyramid and the later advent of the Melchizedek and the future all revealed and laid out in the great pyramid.

That's probably the great mystery somewhere in there.

sevens

[ 03-03-2007, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

Its certainly a mystery I am just amazed that the Pole Star can be used in order to fix the approxiamte construction of the great Pyramid. If the date is confimred using this method then it seems to me that the Pyramids are not as old as I thought. Possibly!

Just the possibility of the whole world plan of the future layed out in a construction in dimesion just blows me away. The over a hundred years Melchizedek arrives uplifts religion and you have the Abrahamic connection. Incredibly when Jesus was born and went to Egypt where remnants of the followers of the Atun Ra religion began by Iknanton went to visit Jesus and recognised him.

Just this possibility is just incredible.
I thought it was interesting the link of the Ark of the covenant connection and the the Great Pyramid.

Sounds like amazing fireworks display.


 

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In six thousand years only four great prophets arose among the Egyptians. Amenemope they followed for a season; Okhban they murdered; Ikhnaton they accepted but halfheartedly for one short generation; Moses they rejected. Again was it political rather than religious circumstances that made it easy for Abraham and, later on, for Joseph to exert great influence throughout Egypt in behalf of the Salem teachings of one God. But when the Salem missionaries first entered Egypt, they encountered this highly ethical culture of evolution blended with the modified moral standards of Mesopotamian immigrants. These early Nile valley teachers were the first to proclaim conscience as the mandate of God, the voice of Deity.

4. THE TEACHINGS OF AMENEMOPE

In due time there grew up in Egypt a teacher called by many the "son of man" and by others Amenemope. This seer exalted conscience to its highest pinnacle of arbitrament between right and wrong, taught punishment for sin, and proclaimed salvation through calling upon the solar deity.

Amenemope taught that riches and fortune were the gift of God, and this concept thoroughly colored the later appearing Hebrew philosophy. This noble teacher believed that God-consciousness was the determining factor in all conduct; that every moment should be lived in the realization of the presence of, and responsibility to, God. The teachings of this sage were subsequently translated into Hebrew and became the sacred book of that people long before the Old Testament was reduced to writing. The chief preachment of this good man had to do with instructing his son in uprightness and honesty in governmental positions of trust, and these noble sentiments of long ago would do honor to any modern statesman.

This wise man of the Nile taught that "riches take themselves wings and fly away"--that all things earthly are evanescent. His great prayer was to be "saved from fear." He exhorted all to turn away from "the words of men" to "the acts of God ." In substance he taught: Man proposes but God disposes. His teachings, translated into Hebrew, determined the philosophy of the Old Testament Book of Proverbs. Translated into Greek, they gave color to all subsequent Hellenic religious philosophy. The later Alexandrian philosopher, Philo, possessed a copy of the Book of Wisdom.

Amenemope functioned to conserve the ethics of evolution and the morals of revelation and in his writings passed them on both to the Hebrews and to the Greeks. He was not the greatest of the religious teachers of this age, but he was the most influential in that he colored the subsequent thought of two vital links in the growth of Occidental civilization--the Hebrews, among whom evolved the acme of Occidental religious faith, and the Greeks, who developed pure philosophic thought to its greatest European heights.

In the Book of Hebrew Proverbs, chapters fifteen, seventeen, twenty, and chapter twenty-two, verse seventeen, to chapter twenty-four, verse twenty-two,
Page 1047 are taken almost verbatim from Amenemope's Book of Wisdom. The first psalm of the Hebrew Book of Psalms was written by Amenemope and is the heart of the teachings of Ikhnaton. web page

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and then some information about Iknanton

 

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The teachings of Amenemope were slowly losing their hold on the Egyptian mind when, through the influence of an Egyptian Salemite physician, a woman of the royal family espoused the Melchizedek teachings. This woman prevailed upon her son, Ikhnaton, Pharaoh of Egypt, to accept these doctrines of One God.

and fiurther in the link

Though the monotheistic ideal suffered with the passing of Ikhnaton, the idea of one God persisted in the minds of many groups. The son-in-law of Ikhnaton went along with the priests, back to the worship of the old gods, changing his name to Tutankhamen. The capital returned to Thebes, and the priests waxed fat upon the land, eventually gaining possession of one seventh of all Egypt; and presently one of this same order of priests made bold to seize the crown.

and another

The glory of this great era of moral development and spiritual growth in the Nile valley was rapidly passing at about the time the national life of the Hebrews was beginning, and consequent upon their sojourn in Egypt these Bedouins carried away much of these teachings and perpetuated many of Ikhnaton's doctrines in their racial religion. web page

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sevens

Amenemope Book of Wisdom

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/6177/akhen.html


an article

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2004/713/he1.htm

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http://www.phouka.com/pharaoh/pharaoh/dynasties/dyn21/04amenemope.html


Here is information on Imhotep however this dates Imhotep creator of the great pyramid.


 

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Imhotep (sometimes spelled Immutef, Im-hotep, or Ii-em-Hotep, Egyptian ii-m-ḥtp *jā-im-ḥatāp) (2667 BC - 2648 BC) is the first architect and physician known by name in written history.

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The dates seem to be out in regards to the Pole Star alignment as mentioned in the link regarding the Pole Star and the alignment of the Passageway. by about 500 years. So now I'm really confused as we have dates 500 years apart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep

[ 03-04-2007, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Here is UB link from the search of twenty thousand years

web page

It reveals a little

here is something that reveals something about the time of the construction of the first tower of Babel

 

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The dispersion of the Nodites was an immediate result of the internecine conflict over the tower of Babel. This internal war greatly reduced the numbers of the purer Nodites and was in many ways responsible for their failure to establish a great pre-Adamic civilization. From this time on Nodite culture declined for over one hundred and twenty thousand years until it was upstepped by Adamic infusion. But even in the times of Adam the Nodites were still an able people. Many of their mixed descendants were numbered among the Garden builders, and several of Van's group captains were Nodites. Some of the most capable minds serving on Adam's staff were of this race.

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So the first attempt of Babel began 120,000 years ago. Because of the internal conflict the Nodites failed to create a pre Adamic civilisation.

It looks like the second construction of Babel began 12,000 years, 10,000BC


 

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About twelve thousand years ago a second attempt to erect the tower of Babel was made . The mixed races of the Andites (Nodites and Adamites) undertook to raise a new temple on the ruins of the first structure, but there was not sufficient support for the enterprise; it fell of its own pretentious weight. This region was long known as the land of Babel.

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So the large circular foundations of Babel, of the coast of Iran is really the site of the first and second towers of Babel.

This is where Imhotep came from, either personaly throughout his childhood and migrated to Egypt or perhaps his previous family linage comes from Dilmun the land of the Andites. The Egyptian used to call Dalamatia(Pre Dilmun) Dilmat. sounds linke Dilmun. The Egyptian priests gives the date of the destruction of Atlantis 10,000 years ago from 600BC. I would say that is near the times of Babel in its second construction which failed. Also the sea levels rose by 20 meters between 12,000 - 10,000 years ago.

and then in around 8000 years they thought about trying Babel again.

 

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These conquerors of Mesopotamia carried in their ranks many of the better Andite strains of the mixed northern races of Turkestan, including some of the Adamson stock. These less advanced but more vigorous tribes from the north quickly and willingly assimilated the residue of the civilization of Mesopotamia and presently developed into those mixed peoples found in the Euphrates valley at the beginning of historic annals.

They quickly revived many phases of the passing civilization of Mesopotamia, adopting the arts of the valley tribes and much of the culture of the Sumerians. They even sought to build a third tower of Babel and later adopted the term as their national name. web page

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Again, the sea levels rose 20 meters between 10,000-12,000 years ago but between 10,000-8,000 years ago the sea levels rose a further 20 metres again flooding scores of cities.

This only means more migrations of the Andites to Egypt.

However by around 6000BC the floods began to ease.

 

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It was during the floodtimes that Susa so greatly prospered. The first and lower city was inundated so that the second or higher town succeeded the lower as the headquarters for the peculiar artcrafts of that day. With the later diminution of these floods, Ur became the center of the pottery industry. About seven thousand years ago Ur was on the Persian Gulf, the river deposits having since built up the land to its present limits. These settlements suffered less from the floods because of better controlling works and the widening mouths of the rivers. web page

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However around the time of the Brilliant Egyptian Culture the Sumerian(Andite) culture disappeared.

 

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About 2500 B.C. the Sumerians suffered severe reverses at the hands of the northern Suites and Guites. Lagash, the Sumerian capital built on flood mounds, fell. Erech held out for thirty years after the fall of Akkad. By the time of the establishment of the rule of Hammurabi the Sumerians had become absorbed into the ranks of the northern Semites, and the Mesopotamian Andites passed from the pages of history.

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Now if Imhotep built the Great Pyramid according to the UB and where Imhotep was thought to live in around 2600BC according to the wikipedia then Imhotep would of been an early refugee from the final dispersion of the Sumerians(andites) around 2500BC in Sumeria.

There must of been migrations of the Andites to Egypt due to conflict pre 2500BC.

Regarding the Pole Star and its alignment because there appears to be a 500 year discrepancy I was thinking would the Pole Star travel out of alignment by allot in 500 years and could that relate to the discrepancy of the 3 degrees out of alignment working on the 2149BC theory?? As Johnee mentioned!

sevens

[ 03-04-2007, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

At the end of the day regarding the ancient places man will reject all.

If these places are linked to change or transition I believe there will only be 10% that will embrace, the rest will reject completely event the so called religious types which does include the UB readers as well.

I believe most of Christianity will reject any sign leading to transition and other world religions will follow suit in exactly in the same manner.

All will ignore and reject.

Simple as that, it will no different as in the days of Jesus.

I think 1Eden was an excellent case in point. I know the UB readers did support the project where they did find the wall, but in the main I think the world has rejected 1stEden and wont even bother to look into the case.

Personally I think the response to these ancient places is just disappointing and I think man should be completely ashamed of himself for having a real lack off!

The churches I must say have been pathetic in this whole journey.

I think they are useless to the cause because of the controlling stifled doctrine they are under.

In the end days the beast shall overcome the prophets....Yep that's true! absolutely correct! 100%

No true prophet can survive these days because of the disbelief and the spiritual slackness of so many which is to much.

Without seemingly to test, I doubt that the angels can do that much because of mans disbelief, pride and prejudice. As you know Angels cant enforce ideas but they can lead you to the signs but they cant make you embrace the signs.

I think world doctrine is to heavy and stifles the spiritual eyes of many.

Actually many of the Christians churches are more of an obstacle to the forwarding of truth, these days.

If there is a literal judgment day as what the bible expresses I believe there would only be 10% that will survive, that's it.

700,000,000 million individuals or so and will not be all Christians that's for sure.

Regarding signs you have 1Eden, Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel also you have the prophetical aspects of the Great Pyramid which appears to be related to Christianity prophecy not to mention all the books and still everyone takes no notice and rejects.

I don't know what the signs could be if these places are not the signs!!!!

This whole affair makes this planet one of most disappointing planets in the universe as far as Im concerned.

Everyone just seems so pis weak when it comes to things of the Father and his foundational places! There's no grit, no proclamation, no guts, no faith, just bloody nothing! No even a whimper from the so called great religious institutions of this useless for nothing world. Cant even feed the population that how pathetic this planet is.

Like Jesus said this is an evil planet and I think full of crappy people, most of them!

I think the Father should call it in soon. Nothing is going to happen here on this piece of rock, no one is going to lift there finger in faith and do something. Because everyone who can do something is fat and comfortable and doesn't want to change because of his small, self serving ego attitude. Typical man! Useless piece of nothing, good for nothing half the time, most of the time! in the spiritual things of the Father!

Anyway that's my assessment so far.

If I was the father I would really call it in. I don't know what the Father expects but man is not going to do a thing just talk crap all day long without doing nothing. This process even in light of the most wonderous things of God is really becoming a waste of time and resources if one aspires to the best result of this scenario. I believe the best result wont happen. Man is simply to far gone for him to come back to the table of true reality.

Well that's my report to the Ancient of Days and the Father in this most useless for nothing planet regarding its unbelieving, faithless, do nothing slack inhabitants living of the backs of others. That's all everyone wants to do capitalise on everyone else backs to make there life comfortable and fat.

Obviously 1st Eden made no difference not even to the UB people in the sense of discovery. I myself have seen very little support from anyone apart from a very few UB people.

So why are we wasting time here promoting this book and the discoveries. Man will not respond unless there is something obvious which is not the real point!

You know, even the so called great organisations of the UB have shown very little spiritual support, while they waste there time going to court they could be funding these operations of the ancient places and helping man get to the truth quicker rather than all this waste of time court crap BS not to mention the evil attitudes and motivations in the UB circles involved in internal conflict again over nothing!

Man has to really grow up here and cut the crap and get on with it in finding truth for mankind rather than wasting resources and time in stupid court. Over a common book,,,, what next!

So if this all part of transition when does it happen because this cant go on forever, there must be a defining point? or does this just drag on and on and on! where it gets ridiculous!


I say bring it on, call it in I think the result wont get better.

No point in wasting anymore time! Might as well expect improvement in the new Epoch. because this current planetary situation has failed miserably and cannot help itself... look around us!!

It complete failure, this planet! If there is improvement to happen it will be under the new administration.

Might as well call it in! finish this!

sevens

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Some personal thoughts of the state of play at this time.

At the end of the day regarding the ancient places man will reject all.

If these places are linked to change or transition I believe there will only be 10% that will embrace, the rest will reject completely, even the so called religious types which does include the UB readers as well.

I believe most of Christianity will reject any sign leading to transition and other world religions will follow suit in exactly in the same manner.

All will ignore and reject.

Simple as that, it will no different as in the days of Jesus.
I think 1Eden was an excellent case in point. I know the UB readers did support the project where they did find the wall, but in the main I think the world has rejected 1stEden and wont even bother to look into the case.

Personally I think the response to these ancient places is just disappointing and I think man should be completely ashamed of himself for having a real lack off!

The churches I must say have been pathetic in this whole journey.

I think they are useless to the cause because of the controlling stifled doctrine they are under.

In the end days the beast shall overcome the prophets....Yep that's true! absolutely correct! 100%

No true prophet can survive these days because of the disbelief and the spiritual slackness of so many which is to much.

Without seemingly to test, I doubt that the angels can do that much because of mans disbelief, pride and prejudice. As you know Angels cant enforce ideas but they can lead you to the signs but they cant make you embrace the signs.

I think world doctrine is to heavy and stifles the spiritual eyes of many.

Actually many of the Christians churches are more of an obstacle to the forwarding of truth, these days.

If there is a literal judgment day as what the bible expresses I believe there would only be 10% that will survive, that's it.

700,000,000 million individuals or so and will not be all Christians that's for sure.

Regarding signs you have 1Eden, Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel also you have the prophetical aspects of the Great Pyramid which appears to be related to Christianity prophecy not to mention all the books and still everyone takes no notice and rejects.

I don't know what the signs could be if these places are not the signs!!!!

This whole affair makes this planet one of most disappointing planets in the universe as far as Im concerned.

Everyone just seems so pis weak when it comes to things of the Father and his foundational places! There's no grit, no proclamation, no guts, no faith, just bloody nothing! Not even a whimper from the so called great religious institutions of this useless for nothing world. Cant even feed the population that how pathetic this planet is.

Like Jesus said this is an evil planet and I think full of crappy people, most of them!

I think the Father should call it in soon. Nothing is going to happen here on this piece of rock, no one is going to lift there finger in faith and do something. Because everyone who can do something is fat and comfortable and doesn't want to change because of his small, self serving ego attitude. Typical man! Useless piece of nothing, good for nothing half the time, most of the time! in the spiritual things of the Father!

Anyway that's my assessment so far.

If I was the father I would really call it in. I don't know what the Father expects but man is not going to do a thing just talk crap all day long without doing nothing. This process even in light of the most wonderous things of God is really becoming a waste of time and resources if one aspires to the best result of this scenario. I believe the best result wont happen. Man is simply to far gone for him to come back to the table of true reality.

Well that's my report to the Ancient of Days and the Father in this most useless for nothing planet regarding its unbelieving, faithless, do nothing slack inhabitants living of the backs of others. That's all everyone wants to do capitalise on everyone else backs to make there life comfortable and fat.

Obviously 1st Eden made no difference not even to the UB people in the sense of discovery. I myself have seen very little support from anyone apart from a very few UB people.

So why are we wasting time here promoting this book and the discoveries. Man will not respond unless there is something obvious which is not the real point!

Man has to really grow up here and cut the crap and get on with it in finding truth for mankind rather than wasting resources and time.

So if this all part of transition when does it happen because this cant go on forever, there must be a defining point? or does this just drag on and on and on! where it gets ridiculous!


I say bring it on, call it in! I think the results wont get better.

No point in wasting anymore time! Might as well expect improvement in the new Epoch. because this current planetary situation has failed miserably and cannot help itself... look around us!! and most of all look at the witness of all the religions in there narrow doctrine and look how they all behave in all there hypo! where it becomes more like cabaret show with all the recycled doctrine. A spectacle and yet they reject the origins as written in their own book. Not to mention all the hassling of money. Much of Christianity has been reduced to merely a social operation rather than a truth bearing and seeking religion that deliver real sermons of power and truth along side with hard evidence. Religion is still full of fear because of the doctrine of fear, it has all to do with self preservation (fear of loss)

Its a complete failure, this planet! If there is improvement to happen it will be under the new administration.

Might as well call it in! finish this!

Just remember that the before judgment is the most crucial period and all your words and thoughts will be held against you! Like in court! Yes that's right! After judgment it will be too late to back track, simple as that!

Before anyone jumps on my back with doctrine.

When I say this is a report to the Father and the Ancient of Days don't estimate this at all. They do listen and respond as I have witnessed in other proclamations in this long journey to the ancient places. Actually it was through a proclamation to the Ancient of Days and following the Enoch's 10 week judgement that Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel was discovered in the Seventh Part. Don't underestimate that. I wouldn't!

Also the sevenfold scheme of training is directly related to the Ancients of Days. It is an Ancients of Days operation so don't be disrespectful! when the clouds of doctrine fall on me fro m you! Be disrespectful to me, no problem but not to the Ancients of Days and there very own operation. Keep in mind that I solely rely on the Father and the Ancients of Days for guidance in these places they are my sole backers and are my protector. I rely on them because I cannot rely on the churches concerning these ancient places. Everything that happens is in the total control of the Father, Ancient of Days and the Paradise Trinity so by insulting me as you will within yourselves, you insult them and they will respond!

As we approach judgment The Father will become more ruthless towards untruth, spiritual scams, bad motivation and most of all false doctrine!

Christianity is no way safe as all man will be judged by his motivation and what is within him where ignorance is no excuse for a way of escape!

Remember in revelation the 6 churches cop a major correction except the unknown church! So obviously something is wrong with the churches for them to be corrected in there track during the judgment process. Now would be a good time for the churches and there leadership to examine themselves and reach out further into the all the books. But you know and I know that will not happen because of too much pride, prejudice and manmade doctrinal crystallization which leads to utter blindness.

The Church appears to be caught out unexpectedly by Judgment in revelation. Obviously the Father did call the last mystery in at a time when no one expected it!!!!!!! Which could be at anytime now or even on the short term future. I don't know the time. However going by the response of mankind and of the Churches towards the ancient places I would say some time soon as the ancient places had no effect pursuant of truth. maybe perhaps??

This is a no mucking around time. That's for sure!

Again from the Bible

 

Again from the Bible

 

Note the Mystery of God, the Father and of Jesus. I would say these ancient places are very much part of the the mystery of God.

and again

 

sevens

Yes you are so right, I'm just struggling with attitude.

Oh! I'm just so frustrated at this moment. I'm sure its a bad day in attitude,

Finding much stuff but then nothing happens it just keeps on dragging on.

Thanks for your words and sorry If I was overly aggressive!

You know I just want a good result for God and man and I know that these ancient places is the right direction and in the big picture which is unfolding!

I just want get out there and get some real action going rather being enclosed in 4 walls with out any resources to venture out to verify and continue to do the will of the Father!

Ahh just frustrated with everything and the world in its present pathetic state.

Again thanks for your kinds words and correction.

I know Jesus had faith in man and I feel a little ashamed of myself that I have little faith in man or anyone for that matter. But I just feel that man has proved himself unworthy of trust on many counts just by looking at the way he operates and how he speaks with a multiple forked tongue.

all the best sojourner

sevens

The tower of Babel seems to be a circle in a triangle but also the following symbols can be found on the Block in the shaft in the great pyramid.

Anyway I tried to piece what seems to be a picture with perhaps a zodiac to the right of perhaps another smaller pyramid.

Here is the original


enlargement
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/andite_script.jpg

and here is my handy work.


Further additions in the enlargement
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/andite_script1.jpg

Perhaps someone else could try it and see what they come up with.

I'm probably seeing things kinda turned into something else oh well!

Here is another view of the main Pyramid


Further additions in the enlargement
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/andite_script2.jpg

Is there any connection somewhere??

I do see more things I see two pryamids and a semi circle next to the smaller pryamid.

I also wonder if this diagram is the key that leads to the right passageway.  The sloping passgeway to the North of the Pryamid.



all the best

sevens

Hi Tom

With the door, yes I know my images are a little fanciful, I agree. However, without all my novice art work I do definitely see a symbol in the way of a pyramid.

A triangle with a circle within and a smaller exact same symbol embossed within the main symbol.

With the great Passage way if its only 5 degrees off the celestial pole, that's ok by me. Its seems to match both the UB and Cayce. 5 degrees of the Pole isn't to bad for a structure like that. So therefore what ever star was close to the North Star the Passageway also pointed to it. Sounds like a match.

Well to me that seems like a step closer.

About the triangle symbol, I'm surprised the discovers never picked it up and mentioned it as they were observing the door. However I'm thinking also that it points to something else or it could point to something else.

I really do find the whole study quite interesting. I really think the descending passageway is the key and that it points to the Celestial pole really seems like a match to the UB and Cayce parallel.

I'm just really impressed! it seems like an excellent connection. The Thuban Star makes all sense and if it was stationary for 200 years it would of given the builders ample time to build the structure with good alignment to Thuban. The dates seem to correspond to.

Here is another link on the definition of the Thuban and its various names in different cultures. The Dragons tail.

http://users.winshop.com.au/annew/Thuban.html

 

You know raises some intersting thoughts like for example

I was drawn to this name "all representing the god Caga Gilgati," I hate to say it but for me. That name sounds like Caligastia as mentioned in The Urantia Book. He was the fallen planetary prince of Urantia.

"as having the highest seat amongst the heavenly host" we know that Caligastia desired that?? and he was the ex planetary prince replaced by the Melchizedek as that title along with Jesus according to the UB.

I have to say its weird pondering this but I could wrong here.

In any case It seems that the Thuban in the North Star was represented as a heavenly host. A judge or a ruler of high distinction in the heavens.

I found also that Sargon also studied this star and was most likely influenced by the Thuban. It would seem logical to me that the Egyptians would also place importance in this star and see it as a celestial destination, the abodes of the Gods, the centre of the universe as seen by them.

Maybe around 2600BC or later was when the great Pyramid was built. Seems to match along with circumstantial evidence held by other cultures.


sevens

Hi Tom

With the door, yes I know my images are a little fanciful, I agree. However, without all my novice art work I do definitely see a symbol in the way of a pyramid.

A triangle with a circle within and a smaller exact same symbol embossed within the main symbol.

With the great Passage way if its only 5 degrees off the celestial pole, that's ok by me. Its seems to match both the UB and Cayce. 5 degrees of the Pole isn't to bad for a structure like that. So therefore what ever star was close to the North Star the Passageway also pointed to it. Sounds like a match.

Well to me that seems like a step closer.

About the triangle symbol, I'm surprised the discovers never picked it up and mentioned it as they were observing the door. However I'm thinking also that it points to something else or it could point to something else.

I really do find the whole study quite interesting. I really think the descending passageway is the key and that it points to the Celestial pole really seems like a match to the UB and Cayce parallel.

I'm just really impressed! it seems like an excellent connection. The Thuban Star makes all sense and if it was stationary for 200 years it would of given the builders ample time to build the structure with good alignment to Thuban. The dates seem to correspond to.

Here is another link on the definition of the Thuban and its various names in different cultures. The Dragons tail.

http://users.winshop.com.au/annew/Thuban.html

 

You know raises some intersting thoughts like for example

I was drawn to this name "all representing the god Caga Gilgati," I hate to say it but for me. That name sounds like Caligastia as mentioned in The Urantia Book. He was the fallen planetary prince of Urantia.

"as having the highest seat amongst the heavenly host" we know that Caligastia desired that?? and he was the ex planetary prince replaced by the Melchizedek as that title along with Jesus according to the UB.

I have to say its weird pondering this but I could wrong here.

In any case It seems that the Thuban in the North Star was represented as a heavenly host. A judge or a ruler of high distinction in the heavens.

I found also that Sargon also studied this star and was most likely influenced by the Thuban. It would seem logical to me that the Egyptians would also place importance in this star and see it as a celestial destination, the abodes of the Gods, the centre of the universe as seen by them.

Maybe around 2600BC or later was when the great Pyramid was built. Seems to match along with circumstantial evidence held by other cultures.

Thuban



 

http://www2.hmc.edu/www/Thuban_history.html

so

 

then you have Cayce with his rendition of the Big/Great Dipper is Thuban the second star in the Great Dipper??  If it is then there is another match!

 

sevens
 

Hi Tom

With the door, yes I know my images are a little fanciful, I agree. However, without all my novice art work I do definitely see a symbol in the way of a pyramid.

A triangle with a circle within and a smaller exact same symbol embossed within the main symbol.

With the great Passage way if its only 5 degrees off the celestial pole, that's ok by me. Its seems to match both the UB and Cayce. 5 degrees of the Pole isn't to bad for a structure like that. So therefore what ever star was close to the North Star the Passageway also pointed to it. Sounds like a match.

Well to me that seems like a step closer.

About the triangle symbol, I'm surprised the discovers never picked it up and mentioned it as they were observing the door. However I'm thinking also that it points to something else or it could point to something else.

I really do find the whole study quite interesting. I really think the descending passageway is the key and that it points to the Celestial pole really seems like a match to the UB and Cayce parallel.

I'm just really impressed! it seems like an excellent connection. The Thuban Star makes all sense and if it was stationary for 200 years it would of given the builders ample time to build the structure with good alignment to Thuban. The dates seem to correspond to.

Here is another link on the definition of the Thuban and its various names in different cultures. The Dragons tail.

http://users.winshop.com.au/annew/Thuban.html

 

You know raises some intersting thoughts like for example

I was drawn to this name "all representing the god Caga Gilgati," I hate to say it but for me. That name sounds like Caligastia as mentioned in The Urantia Book. He was the fallen planetary prince of Urantia.

"as having the highest seat amongst the heavenly host" we know that Caligastia desired that?? we would of wanted to be lifted up an exalted.  He was the ex planetary prince replaced by the Melchizedek as that title, along with Jesus according to the UB.

I have to say its weird pondering this but I could wrong here but it could be right.

In any case It seems that the Thuban was the North Star and was represented as a heavenly host or as a judge. A judge or a ruler of high distinction in the heavens.

I found also that Sargon also studied this star and was most likely influenced by the Thuban. It would seem logical to me that the Egyptians would also place importance in this star and see it as a celestial destination, the abodes of the Gods, the centre of the universe as seen by them.

Maybe around 2600BC or later was when the great Pyramid was built. Seems to match along with circumstantial evidence held by other cultures.

Thuban



 

http://www2.hmc.edu/www/Thuban_history.html

so

 

then you have Cayce with his rendition of the Big/Great Dipper is Thuban the second star in the Great Dipper??  If it is then there is another match!

 

This image really spells it out and tells the story of Thuban and the construction of the great Pyramid.



Interesting link about Thuban

http://starryskies.com/The_sky/constellations/draco.html


Ive been thinking about Caga Gilgati or what I think is Calagastia.

Taken from the link above

 

Now Im looking into the Urantia Book

Here is a search on the Dragon that reveals much

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=dragon&submit=Submit

 

and

 

How interesting is that!!  So the Draco the Dragon and Thuban was related to celestial war?  Its virtualy written in the stars and the great Pyramid points to the epic.

I wonder if there is a greater story in regards to Orion that fits or compliments the puzzle.

I know this uncomfortable for some but thats what we are finding on the run in the research and its all part of the story of our origins which I feel is part of the great mystery which may have all to do with the great pyramid and the connections to our religions today.

 

another view





But I wonder if Thuban is the second star in the Big dipper as Cayce mentions?

Now here is a search I did on http://www.dalamatiacity.com with some of my thoughts at the time of discovery in relation to the subject I was investigating at the time.

 

and then in Amos 9